Creature Handler Archive
Thread: I'm so sorry gang... and a farewell.
Cosmic21 wrote:
Ko-aIri wrote:
CerionSkydreamer wrote:
We need to rally. We need a leader, a voice, more than ever.
I'm still here... for the time being.
And you had better believe I'm raising holy hell... Tiggs stated we were less than 1% of the population. However, in this Astromech Stats Friday Feature from August, we're in the top 50% of all professions.
Not to mention we're listed above, for example, Commando, which is being preserved in the new system. So there are more CHs than Commandos, yet CH is being cut from the game. Hmm... something doesn't add up.
Raise your voices. Speak up. Even if you're quitting, fight for those who may still stay. Fight for your pets. Be extra-melodramatic... but say your part if you feel strongly about it.
Yes Ko I agree.. we can fight this one, oneway or another.If we can't 'petition' on the forums.. think of the other ways we can.. that are even MORE effective. I wonder what they could be.. oops.. brb. I have a PHONE CALL from an old friend who just got my POSTCARD.
I'm back. Dumping CH in this kind of 'timely' manner is very very bad P.R. for SOE - once again. We have some good leverage here. Lets not give up. Cancel your account if the billing cycle is about to end but keep protesting for at least until December. Cancelled accounts should start the ball rolling (I have another 10 days until my new billing cycle starts so I'm going to use that time the best I can.)
The CH Profession is a devoted group and lots of other profs know this. Many respect us. They count on us or share they're adoration for the animals of SWG. They feel our hurt and they can help us.
Spread the word any way you know how - that we've been screwed, especially most of us who pre-ordered/ dowloaded TOOW for CH advancement.
SOE whatwere you thinking!!!?? Oh yeah.. you're listing to a bunch of 7 year old focus groups.
Message Edited by Cosmic21 on 11-02-2005 10:53 PM
Keeping in mind that agreement we sign every time we log in says that game experience may change we might still contact our creditcard companies and demand a refund on a product that was not as advertized. Legally we probably don't have a case but if we really are over 50% of the players as the astromech claims then we can have a strong impact beyond just canceling our accounts. The paperwork alone should be entertaining
-Indene-
Incidentally, I think I had my Station name since the announcement of the game, since before beta.
As I told Tiggs:
I bought the game because I could play a Wookiee. One of the big draws was becoming a Creature Handler. It seemed natural for a Wookiee character, and natural given the bonuses in the game.
Whether I was a Pistoleer, or tried Rifleman before the CU, or respecced to TKM, I was always a Creature handler. In fact, even losing the TKM intrinsic armor (I like fighting alongside my pets, almost as one of them in the fur as it were), pales compared to losing the pets.
I'm not an expert game-player. I spent almost a year getting MCH. I came in after Christmas 2003, so CH was already nerfed. I did it all the hard way. Better yet, I did it with Pistols, which weren't so great either.
One of the draws to get me to buy the ToOW expansion was the potential to be able to have pets up to CL80.
I don't believe that CH are only 1%. Among Wookiees, especially, that may be higher. We have a lot of CH in my all-Wookiee PA. And even if there aren't any CH, we represent those who have the guts to play a profession that is hard to manage, that costs us skill points that could be used in a second elite combat profession, and has had many problems, rather than minmaxing ourselves to a PvP win.
We're heart and soul players. We bring flavor, like the good music and the realistic and artful game design. We get together and compare the pets we have tamed, like they were trading cards.
Really, I ask that the developers reconsider. This is obviously something that's going to be in development for a while, and perhaps some way we can convince you guys to keep creature handling in the game. Maybe it could be a second profession available to everybody, as piloting is. Anybody who wants to spend the time and effort to add it on to their character can have the benefits too.
I am so sad that this (and other) professions were treated this way and had their destruction planned without any kind of notification. I hope that there is some place for pets and their masters in the new system.
/salute Ko-aIri
Indene wrote:
Keeping in mind that agreement we sign every time we log in says that game experience may change we might still contact our creditcard companies and demand a refund on a product that was not as advertized. Legally we probably don't have a case but if we really are over 50% of the players as the astromech claims then we can have a strong impact beyond just canceling our accounts. The paperwork alone should be entertaining
-Indene-
QFE here... The only thing we really have is that the game is not what was advertised.... and I'm sure that there's some legaleese on the page that we all click "I agree" on in order to play that states that they can do this at their whim..
I just hope that they buy something nice with the $90 they got from my 3 accounts.
Ko-aIri wrote:
Hey folks,
This complete game change blindsided me just like it blindsided you. I had no knowledge that it was coming, and I can't even believe what I've read tonight.
My friend text messaged me about a "new CU" while I was at work, then bluntly told me Creature Handler was not in the grand design at all. I left work early to see exactly what he was talking about, and I can't understand what happened at all.
To all my friends here on the Creature Handler forum, I am so incredibly sorry. This profession, and this community, is why I played Star Wars: Galaxies. You guys were/are the best of the best, the most dedicated and awesome group of gamers I've had the pleasure of meeting. Even if we are less than 1% of the playerbase (hard to believe how far we've fallen since launch, when every other person was a CH), we're still just as important (if not more so) than any Jedi or Bounty Hunter.
I will not be re-applying for CH correspondent if this new system takes effect. I doubt that matters as it seems there will be no Creature Handler profession. I have already posted my feelings to the dev team. I will likely not be renewing my subscription either, as the game I love is not the game that seems to be coming.
For those of you staying around, proudly wear your Master Creature Handler title... maybe in time, the team will come to their senses.
For any of you who would like to be in touch with me in the future, feel free to AIM me at TheDarkGodHeston, or e-mail me at [email protected]. I can't promise to respond fast, but I'll eventually get around to it.
Vertexon was the first Creature Handler Correspondent, and I was the second and presumably last. It has been my honor to serve you folks, and I'm so sad to see our profession die I can't express it. Take care of yourselves, and hope to see you in future games!
Mike Litzinger, Creature Handler Correspondent
/bow4
CH was my very first profession and even though it really was not that grreat, I loved it. Its really sad what this game has come down to. I guess we'll all find out on the 15th whether it's worth playing a cookie cutter fps or not.
juggernaut1970 wrote:
I honestly don't know what to say about this. I have been MCH since I started this game back in 07/03. I worked my ass off to get it, back when it was hard. Because of that I never dropped it. Had my chance to respec and still kept everything I worked for. Today (with out knowing of this CH death) I went against my better judgment and bought the trials. I did not buy any other pack since I bought this game. My reasons were simple. To many screw ups, nothing has changed since the game started with these nightmare fixes. I was not about to drop down hard earned cash for the packs, until now. Dam! Part 3 comes out on DVD this past Tuesday, I watch it every day since it came in the mail on Monday and that fueled my passion for the purchase of this pack. I was on mustafar for 2 mins and someone came up to me, bowed and wished me and my profession well. I thanked them, figuring it was just another person who understood the problems this profession has had from the start. 10 minutes later another toon walks up to me and says “I will miss seeing you and your friends, with your cool pets, good luck to you, sir." I thought this was strange and figured they were leaving the game and wished them well and told them I was sorry to see them go from the game. The person responded with “I’m not leaving, your profession is." I shook it off as someone busting my balls. I then met up with my friends only to have one say the same thing to me. Another one told them to pipe down as they know how much I love this profession and figured I would be upset tonight. When I pressed them for more info, they sat me down and explained to me what was being said here. I could not believe it. So I played on. All the while this was in the back of my head. Could it be true? Could this really be the end? Well from reading here, I'm still not 100% sure but things don't look to good. As I was logging out a friend told me good luck. I replied to him, “there are no more movies, this game is all I have left to make me feel apart of a wonderful thing that has been with me in my dreams since I was 7 years old.” Yes 7, I saw "A New Hope" in the theaters back in the late 70's and that movie fueled my dreams and imagination for years. To this day I am a 35 year old, grown man with a figure of Obi Wan sitting atop my TV set that my wife will not touch as she knows how much it means to me. When I started this game I was amazed. The music,npc's,sceneryall brought me into a world I had only dreamed I one day would experience. Since then I have played on an off for roughly 2 months at a time, but always knowing this game would allow me to have those childhood feelings at anytime. I would like to say a very sarcastic "Thank You!!" to the Devs for ripping those feelings and dreams away from me, leaving me with only sadness. I’m sure these feelings were not the feelings Mr. Lucas intended for his devoted fans to have, but it seems some how along the way, someone forgot what this world and this story can do to a young child’s mind. To keep screwing around in order to “BALANCE” game play is only ruining the experience, the magic and most importantly the love for something that was once great. I’ll stick around as I’m not a quitter. But I’m just letting my one little voice be heard here. You are talking my love for this entire epic and destroying it. I only hope that one day I will not be taking Obi Wan down from the TV as he is still my only hope!!
Sorry for the long post!!
you know what, I am gonna cut and paste this on my in-game note pad because this is such a great post. I admire it and the personwho wrote it. Keep Obi-wan right where he is. I have almost the same kind of thing in game, and now it will mean even more. I once had a lvl 10 Bantha when I first started playing the game. His name was Rascal, and he was my inspiration on grinding MCH back when I first started playing a year ago. On a day where I was so tired from playing a late night and tamng trash for the CH taming and training xp I accidently DELETED Rascal. That night I felt the exact same way that i feel now. So the next day I was out at a Vendor when I see a Bantha Doll. I bought that doll and I named the Doll Rascal.
Right now, Rascal is sitting on my Bunker House Bar. Rascal is like your Obi-wan, and the one Item I hold most dearly. Yes. keep Obi-wan right where he is , Sir. Remember the times we had with our pets. I will never forget the times when My rancor would go and start fighting and it seemed like he was hitting himself on the head, as if he was turning something on to make himself stronger. Or the first Mustafar Creature I tames, a lowland Blistmok Raptor.
How can they do this? Who came up with this Stupid idea in the first place?? I keep repeating to myself, God, God, let this not be true, let me wake up and find this was all a bad dream. I am coming off a bad marraige and divorce, and have been utterly depressed. This game was my outlet from reality and CH my favorite aspect. they take that away, leaving me with 9 watered down pathetically designed 2 click proffessions? I just cannot get the sick feeling from my stomach.
RIght now I am glad I have a bunch of BE pet deeds that I never tamed. If they survive this I will place them in my house if I remain in this game
-Indene-
juggernaut1970 wrote:
I honestly don't know what to say about this. I have been MCH since I started this game back in 07/03. I worked my ass off to get it, back when it was hard. Because of that I never dropped it. Had my chance to respec and still kept everything I worked for. Today (with out knowing of this CH death) I went against my better judgment and bought the trials. I did not buy any other pack since I bought this game. My reasons were simple. To many screw ups, nothing has changed since the game started with these nightmare fixes. I was not about to drop down hard earned cash for the packs, until now. Dam! Part 3 comes out on DVD this past Tuesday, I watch it every day since it came in the mail on Monday and that fueled my passion for the purchase of this pack. I was on mustafar for 2 mins and someone came up to me, bowed and wished me and my profession well. I thanked them, figuring it was just another person who understood the problems this profession has had from the start. 10 minutes later another toon walks up to me and says “I will miss seeing you and your friends, with your cool pets, good luck to you, sir." I thought this was strange and figured they were leaving the game and wished them well and told them I was sorry to see them go from the game. The person responded with “I’m not leaving, your profession is." I shook it off as someone busting my balls. I then met up with my friends only to have one say the same thing to me. Another one told them to pipe down as they know how much I love this profession and figured I would be upset tonight. When I pressed them for more info, they sat me down and explained to me what was being said here. I could not believe it. So I played on. All the while this was in the back of my head. Could it be true? Could this really be the end? Well from reading here, I'm still not 100% sure but things don't look to good. As I was logging out a friend told me good luck. I replied to him, “there are no more movies, this game is all I have left to make me feel apart of a wonderful thing that has been with me in my dreams since I was 7 years old.” Yes 7, I saw "A New Hope" in the theaters back in the late 70's and that movie fueled my dreams and imagination for years. To this day I am a 35 year old, grown man with a figure of Obi Wan sitting atop my TV set that my wife will not touch as she knows how much it means to me. When I started this game I was amazed. The music,npc's,sceneryall brought me into a world I had only dreamed I one day would experience. Since then I have played on an off for roughly 2 months at a time, but always knowing this game would allow me to have those childhood feelings at anytime. I would like to say a very sarcastic "Thank You!!" to the Devs for ripping those feelings and dreams away from me, leaving me with only sadness. I’m sure these feelings were not the feelings Mr. Lucas intended for his devoted fans to have, but it seems some how along the way, someone forgot what this world and this story can do to a young child’s mind. To keep screwing around in order to “BALANCE” game play is only ruining the experience, the magic and most importantly the love for something that was once great. I’ll stick around as I’m not a quitter. But I’m just letting my one little voice be heard here. You are talking my love for this entire epic and destroying it. I only hope that one day I will not be taking Obi Wan down from the TV as he is still my only hope!!
Sorry for the long post!!
We're the same age and have the same feeling..you have Oi-Wan on your TV, I have Vader
This game has allowed me to bond with my son over Star Wars, that I never dreamed possible.
He loves his creatures and I just don't know if this is going to be harder on him or myself..I dread telling him.
Ko-aIri I just want to say thank you and job well done for your time as our corro.
Such a sad sad occurence I am left totally shocked and disheartened!
as a former MCH, im sad to see this profession go.
/salute
