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Thread: spilling the beans on CH in beta (NDA lifted)

TheLoneBowler
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:55 pm
#1



Ok they just lifted the NDA so I can talk!


CH is getting some love in the expansion-here are some highlights I will add more later-


-CHs will be able to tame up to level 80. requirements are Master CH, level 80 combat level, and undisclosed items or skills that you will get that will increase your taming by levels of 2 until you get to 80. All of the creatures on Mustafar 80 and below are reported to spawn babies. Babies 71 and above are supposed to be really rare.


-AI has been significantly changed. Pets and NPCs will now use specials in combat. NPCs will follow profession specific ability rulesets (TK, Jedi, Etc)


-In my testing pets are much stronger. My level 67 was able to solo level 65-69 with no help.


I will get more info as soon as I can.

Message Edited by TheLoneBowler on 10-10-2005 04:08 PM



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theorb22
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:02 pm
#2

CL 80 pets, well, guess we'll have to replace our BE pet contingents again . A shame I only held onto one pre-CU pet deed, I had alot of other critters that fell around CL 74ish or slightly above that got permanelty broken and I had to delete them, but CL 80, thats alot more CL!





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Ketu_Sringa
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:15 pm
#3

Up to CL80? whoa, nice (though it is indeed time to rethink our stables if this is the case


Sounds like it'll be limited to MCH who have mastered another combat class, though... good thing I was already planning a respec in that direction. Can you speak at all about the "undisclosed items or skills"? I just want to know if this is a force sensitive thing or something we can all take part in without the village grind. Maybe we finally get the 'taming whip' which had been discussed some time back (and item you wield which does no damage itself, preventing you from using other weapons but allowing you to control higher level critters).


What about CL80 and lower critters on other planets, like Kash or Dath?



Thanks for the info, and sorry for the flood of questions - I'm sure I'm just the first of many...



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TheLoneBowler
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:20 pm
#4






Ketu_Sringa wrote:

Up to CL80? whoa, nice (though it is indeed time to rethink our stables if this is the case


Sounds like it'll be limited to MCH who have mastered another combat class, though... good thing I was already planning a respec in that direction. Can you speak at all about the "undisclosed items or skills"? I just want to know if this is a force sensitive thing or something we can all take part in without the village grind. Maybe we finally get the 'taming whip' which had been discussed some time back (and item you wield which does no damage itself, preventing you from using other weapons but allowing you to control higher level critters).


What about CL80 and lower critters on other planets, like Kash or Dath?



Thanks for the info, and sorry for the flood of questions - I'm sure I'm just the first of many...



Ketu





They are undisclosed No one has figured it out yet. That's why I said items or skills, All I know is that there is something you can get that will increase your available taming level by 2 points at a time until you get to 80.





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Ketu_Sringa
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:39 pm
#5






TheLoneBowler wrote:

They are undisclosed No one has figured it out yet. That's why I said items or skills, All I know is that there is something you can get that will increase your available taming level by 2 points at a time until you get to 80.






Fair enough


Thanks!


Ketu



+--------------------------------------->
| Ketu Sringa // MCH/MBE/Ranger0030 /) /) "Fade away
| ( o o ) into the
| near LOST City, Naboo = x = ethereal
| Lowca m m grey..."
+--------------------------------> ***(=======-


Anobaca
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:42 pm
#6








TheLoneBowler wrote:



Ok they just lifted the NDA so I can talk!


CH is getting some love in the expansion-here are some highlights I will add more later-


-CHs will be able to tame up to level 80. requirements are Master CH, level 80 combat level, and undisclosed items or skills that you will get that will increase your taming by levels of 2 until you get to 80. All of the creatures on Mustafar 80 and below are reported to spawn babies. Babies 71 and above are supposed to be really rare.


-AI has been significantly changed. Pets and NPCs will now use specials in combat. NPCs will follow profession specific ability rulesets (TK, Jedi, Etc)


-In my testing pets are much stronger. My level 67 was able to solo level 65-69 with no help.


I will get more info as soon as I can.


Message Edited by TheLoneBowler on 10-10-2005 04:08 PM




/does super happy dance



Thanks for info



- I support reverting to & balancing the old combat system


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Meplorium
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:43 pm
#7

I've been able to tame creatures on Mustifar and got one with a special ability. So that all seems to work fine. The ability was nothing special, forgot what it was.



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theorb22
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:18 pm
#8

On the topic of specials, perhaps we will find the elusive /petpin on Mustafar somewhere? :/





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utahraptor-strife
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:02 pm
#9



  • All creature models (except one) will have at least one tamable version. Many will have more then one.

  • Baby creatures between the levels of 70 and 80 will be very rare.

  • Creature handlers will have 5 ranges of taming beyond level 70. They will get the ability to tame up to level 72...up to level 74...up to level 76...etc.

  • Only Master Creature handlers will be able to use these advanced taming abilities.

  • Further restriction is that the Creature Handler must also be CL 80 in order to use these abilities


  • The frequency of baby spawning has been turned way up with the last patch, they were set far to low. We will be working on tuning them to the correct amount. You will need to get the items to allow you to tame the higher level pets, and you are also going to need the taming gear and probably the taming foods in order to have much chance at taming such a high level pet.


    Thanks for all your feedback,


    SpaceRancor



  • When I spoke of being able to have tamable versions of all creatures, I was speaking of those on Mustafar. And I would imagine if a BE can make a level 80 pet then you can tame it with the new items. The new items are in game now.


    Thanks,


    SpaceRancor




  • Yes, that is something we will be keeping an eye on. We want to make sure that the gaining of lvl 70+ creatures is something that takes all of the creature handler abilities and available bonuses without becoming frustrating.


    Thanks,


    SpaceRancor








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      rj00789
      Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:04 pm
      #10

      Hey all, thought I'd add my findings to the mix....It is a questable item that you use for taming above CL70...the quest itself is able to be completed be a nearsighted CL1 without his glasses. but theres more to it than that, and there will be some grinding involved as things stand now. Being still in beta things may change and I'm working Space Rancor daily on these things. They are still tweaking spawn rates on babies above CL70. I was assured by a dev that they wanted it to be a chalenge, yet not impossible. it's my feeling they don't want every MCH to have a CL80 on launch day and I can assure you that wont happen. I do recommend that you all place orders for taming clothes if you don't already have them and consider getting Almond Crunchies as well. OP is right on with the newNPC abilities in combat, it's actually alot more fun IMHO. I've had quite a few states applied to me in combat by just about every critter out there. I haven't played with ROTW much,just got it about a month ago, but from what I see this Expansion is a much more polished and fun product I already pre-ordered on the basis of the bunker house alone and this ability to control pets to CL80 is a sweet bonus. The Lava flea set up is same as ROTW ya get a CL10, and any CH can tame a higher level wild flea that will also get you over the lava nicely. There are 6 to8 (maybe more)NEWspecies with several variants and there is only one creature that will not have babies. As far as I know BE will not get any new skins, I made a BE toon and no new skins in the schematics, but once we have the ability to tame a certain level then we SHOULD be able to use a BE pet at same level. I say should,because No-one on beta has actually acquired the ability to tame above CL70 yet so I cannot confirm this. I'm trying to get them to add the ability to the frogs if alot of us CH's havent gotten that ability by the end of the week so that we might have some time to see how hard that is and tweak that if needed. Bottom line if your a CL80 MCH you just got alot closer to actually being that combat profession wev'e been catergorized as since CU



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      rj00789
      Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:19 pm
      #11


      Folks Please keep in mind that the NDA was only partially lifted and I'm pretty sure they said that communications between Devs and testers was still under NDA, mainly because of how things change so much. But the above post is where alot of the official info we've gotten is from! Lol,We need to Keep SpaceRancor happy as he has personally responded to the thread the above post came from about 6 times and he seems genuinely concerned about making this whole CL80 taming thing work well. I will not be posting anything said by a dev in beta forums unless they say it's ok. The announcement that the NDA being lifted was kinda confusing, and as best I can tell, it's still kinda like " Fight club " lol They said we could talk about it, but can't spoil the surprises. I KNOW alot more about the ability to tame over CL70, but I do not wish to start a long debate before anything is finalized. Stay tuned




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      theorb22
      Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:26 pm
      #12

      By the way, does the no more NDA thing end at midnight or what? :/





      november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
      " you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"
      00over0
      Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:14 pm
      #13

      This is just such excellent news--the pendulum may shift on my accounts once again and my MCH will take precedence over my Jedi.



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