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Thread: Have you heard another year wait for the CU..... not a joke!!!

Novock
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:17 am
#1


Yep you heard right and rush to your local dev tracker board for the new post of from TH. The Combat Upgarde ETA is less than a year. Yea though the combat has been promised to be fixed since launch we get to look forward to yet another year before it actually is.



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Halthron
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:58 am
#2

That's not what he said at all: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=54299#M54299

"Shorter than a year, but longer than a mini-publish. In essence, it still depends onsome unseen development elements that we are working through now."
Kitoth
Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:13 pm
#3


Three cheers for being revamped 2 years ahead of everyone else!


/vomit


The fact that TH even used the phrase "less than a year" means that this is going to be more than 6 months. Why would you say less than a year if it was only a few months? I know when I'm at work, if someone asked me for an eta on something that I thought would take a few hours, I would say "a few hours", not "less than a month".


They're basically completely re-doing the entire combat system from scratch. How long was SWG in development again? This is not going to be a fast process, soa year would not surprise me in the slightest. I'm just surprised they had the nuts to (semi) admit it.

Message Edited by Kitoth on 12-06-2004 11:14 AM




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Kitoth
Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:41 pm
#4


Actually, is the sandbox testing actually ongoing? What I understood was that it hadn't even started yet. And that all that was happening was the devs showing the alpha folks the docs and getting feedback on them.

Message Edited by Kitoth on 12-06-2004 01:44 PM




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DarthMarksman
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:11 pm
#5






Kitoth wrote:


Actually, is the sandbox testing actually ongoing? What I understood was that it hadn't even started yet. And that all that was happening was the devs showing the alpha folks the docs and getting feedback on them.

Message Edited by Kitoth on 12-06-2004 01:44 PM





From what I understand it's in the rudimentary stages, though nothing hardcore is happening, yet. They are still turning over each professions issues and how they will interface with each other. They only people that really know are the sandbox testers and they cannot talk about it.



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Joker9125
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:20 pm
#6

I dont wanna even talk about the CU anymore cause for some reason them not sharing the docs with the community(s) really pisses me off.



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LaraDarkStar
Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:43 pm
#7

And people said we ch's were too paranoid and that we didnt trust the news we were being fed based on the mountains of lies and disrepect for the player base.


Another great PR desaster in the making. I swear they dont play the same version of swg as is on Live.



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Joker9125
Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:53 pm
#8






LaraDarkStar wrote:

And people said we ch's were too paranoid and that we didnt trust the news we were being fed based on the mountains of lies and disrepect for the player base.


Another great PR desaster in the making. I swear they dont play the same version of swg as is on Live.






Of course they dont thatr game sucks. They play a Dev only verson that has had the CU even before the huge CH nerf.



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taloncard
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:17 pm
#9

Someone needs to tell TH how to tell time.

The Creature revamp part of the combat balance happended 1 year ago.

I am really disgusted, they dug themselves into a hole and really can't get out of it. There is no way to truly balance things without createing an uproar.

Who is going to be happy completely relearning their profession that they have been masters of for over a year in some cases.




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DarthMarksman
Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:43 am
#10






Novock wrote:


Yep you heard right and rush to your local dev tracker board for the new post of from TH. The Combat Upgarde ETA is less than a year. Yea though the combat has been promised to be fixed since launch we get to look forward to yet another year before it actually is.






Well, you know that the sandbox testing is still ongoing.

Message Edited by DarthMarksman on 12-06-2004 12:51 PM



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samijx
Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:04 am
#11

This is a quite interesting point. How are they going to do this? If they nerf all professions making parity, there will be a lot of mad people. We already know they are not making the professions stronger, they are going to make the environment stronger or us weaker.


I think most people will be uspet mostly the TKM and other GOD professions. After the dissappointment wears in, people will either quit their accounts or give it a go.


All those that stick it out, will eventually find the game more challenging, and probably more fun.


SOE's next challenge will be "OK, revamp done, SWG fixed, now how do we get people excited about playing a 3-year old game, when newer games alreay have our customers?"


This is truely going to be a crossroad, how will it all pan out? very interesting.



As for a timeline...my guess is 3-4 months, but TH is wise enough to realize unforseen problems, so he said less than a year just to provide some wiggle room.



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hi_i_am_new_here
Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:54 pm
#12






Joker9125 wrote:





hi_i_am_new_here wrote:

Thats not true at all. No matter how long it takes them, I want them to do a good job, no matter how long it takes them. Would you rather have a multitude of bugs? or a well executed game plan? I understand the frustration... but people, please! for Petes sake, they are breaking their backs to get this to work. Just be patient.. it will come. Enjoy the game till then.






I personally dont feel sorry for the devs because they are "breaking their backs" with the CUl. They broke the game now they have to fix it. In fact the only reason im still messing with the game is to see how the devs plan on getting themselves out of this one.



They didnt "broke" the game. People complained about others abilities, and the game itself was put into question by the developers. That is why the revamp is here, to correct all the whining and unbalance once and for all. They are doing hard-work to get this live with as few bugs as possible. At least give them credit for attempting to make the game better.




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samijx
Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:39 pm
#13






hi_i_am_new_here wrote:

Thats not true at all. No matter how long it takes them, I want them to do a good job, no matter how long it takes them. Would you rather have a multitude of bugs? or a well executed game plan? I understand the frustration... but people, please! for Petes sake, they are breaking their backs to get this to work. Just be patient.. it will come. Enjoy the game till then.






I don't know if you're new to the game or new to the message boards, but your name says that you're new.


Here's what you need to understand. This revamp thingy is over a year in the making already. SWG is loosing good players, it's loosing it's Star Warsy feel, the economy is inflating, and the game is getting worse by the minute due to these things. SWG is spiriling out of control. Sure JTL has helped a little, but it's a little too late. The only thing that can save this game is if the combat upgrade is done right and ......done soon. Yes, time is of the essence. Each day, guilds loose players, cities loose guilds, and planets loose cities. (I've already seen 2 cities dissappear from Naboo)



To add to the dismay, Jedi are running around like abunch of adolecent bafoons, and the Bounty Hunters are so nerfed to hell they can't do much about it. This ship is sinking and sinking fast.


Don't get me wrong, I like SWG, but it's loosing it's appeal every day. If this fix does come in a years time, it will surely be too late. If the fix is done right and by March, then there's a hope.







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