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Thread: To the dev’s: CH and PVP. Please read.

loonatik
Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:05 pm
#1



This post is not a complaint. I simply want to ask a question and hopefully get a response.


There are many problems with the CH profession right now. Some important, some not that important... Currently as a CH, we are unable to effectively play PvP. I plan to stay MCH if I can PvP or not. But I bought this game with the complete intent on participating in the galactic battle.


Our creatures are so weak, that they die within a few seconds of fighting. Simply removing vitality loss for our pets is not enough to balance it. It is still completely unfair, and not fun to have your pet, even the strongest own able pet in the game, be weaker, and die faster than anyone else you are fighting.


I'm a very patient person. I know how much work you guys have. I have played many mmog's and know how hard it is to balance the professions. I know you are not going to be able to fix this overnight.


I simply want to know that you are aware of the problem, and trying to fix it.


Bruno Salieri



Loonatik
Master Troller
NomOrion
Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:20 pm
#2

I will bump this for ya because deep down I agree with your plight.


Ch is arguably the easiest profession to spot ingame.'That guyhas a 20 ton rancor standing on one leg! I wonder what profession he is? hmmm.


So when creatures were DBing players left and right the cries rang out to the ends of the galaxy. NERF CH!!


Honestly we were too popular for our own good. I think this is one instance where you can't say that bad publicity is good publicity.


If the Devs ever decide to GIVE us something useful in the future. It will be in the name of balance. They do not want a resurgance of the CH profession again.





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HEGEWIZARD
Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:29 pm
#3

I've seen players gang up on creatures because they are tough, but whe I tame the same creature and use it in PvP......One person can take it out fast.


One person???? In the wild it takes a group (some times with a doc. to res) a long time to kill. I shuld be just as difficult to kill in PvP as it is in the wild.


I know that as a CH that enjoy's PvP combat that if I see another CH in the enemys group that they can and will be bringing out a creature that might kick out behinds.


But with the way it is now... You see a CH in a group in PvP I laugh just as much as they are laughing at me.





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HEGEWIZARD
Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:32 pm
#4

Idea of mine is have certain pets that are just as powerfull in PvP as the are in theWILD (and make them non BE)but make it so you can only call one of these pets out at a time no matter what lvl of CH you are.



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Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?

Vertexon
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:42 pm
#5

Also keep in mind that we're only partway through the big combat rebalance. Creatures and creature pets were given attention first (in the December patch), but there's no telling where the dice may fall when all is said and done. I do share your concerns at our current lack of PvP viability, though.



-Vertexon.
KillerZeke
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:09 pm
#6

Most of what you said is true. I have been a MCH for a long time, I once was way to power full Vs. anything. Then we lost our high end pets, then we lost all pets with medium armor, then we lost all medium and low pets with armor, then we were re-balanced.


Now we are in a state were if you intend to do any PvP you need to get master pistoleer, rifleman or carbineer to be effective. Pets are not for PvP at all any more they are just a side hobbie and to help out running PvE missions which is now our only way of making money.


With all this said I will stay a MCH because I enjoy my pets and I enjoy finding new pets. I just wish they would fix a few basic problems, Pet pathing, pet specials, pets running away from battles.


It would also be nice if since pets are no longer a threat in PvP and we are limited to how many that we can have out that they would give use a way to store pet out of our datapad. Give the MCH the skill the craft a pen the takes like 1 lot holds like 20 pets and has like 5cr of maintenance. This way I can atleast store Non-CH pets to sell on my trips to town, right now as weak as our pets our I have 20 pets I use to run missions with so I can pay my bills.


ZabrakEnforcer
Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:11 pm
#7

i agree with everyone here. i have been a mch for over 5 months now and i agree i was very powerful at first, but now im so weak in pvp its just cruel. this is especially horrible when my best pet (a bio gurrek with 12k ham light armor 60% kinetic resists, 80% acid, heat, electricity, 50% energy, 10% stund and restraint with strong disease and stunning strike) is droped in seconds by players who grief my pet by giving it mass wounds then /yell at me making fun of me and telling me how much i suck before they do the same to me. so what has happened is ch has been turned into a non combat proffesion because pets major lack to be able to do damage to players and to withstand damage from players. My specials still dont work when i tell my pets to do them so what the heck good are they? As of right now if you are a mch with other combat proffesions and you pvp you are 95% likley to have your pet die and be griefed hard core and yourself be killed in pvp. there is something dreadfully wrong with this.
Siruswhite-star
Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:30 am
#8

The devs just hate us.






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druceshadowfax
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:25 am
#9

From a role playing viewpoint inROTJthe ultimate jedi struggled to kill a creature handled Rancor in Jabbas palace, he ran and hid. But any old TKM can kill them in a couple of blows?



MCH or Circus trainer?



Skyway......Tuff
Cielago
Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:54 am
#10




Our creatures are so weak, that they die within a few seconds of fighting. Simply removing vitality loss for our pets is not enough to balance it. It is still completely unfair, and not fun to have your pet, even the strongest own able pet in the game, be weaker, and die faster than anyone else you are fighting.






Dev's answer : This will be addressed in the class revampe.



Captain Cielago
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"Hope clouds judgement"
"Each experience carries its own lesson"
Frank Herbert's Dune.



loraphet
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:32 am
#11

i agree with this post and am saddened by my inability to pvp. so currently my mch doc novice pistoleer on eclipse is on a hiatus. i created a tka doc on shadowfire(only downside i made him rebel ) to fill my pvp needs till our profession of choice becomes "balanced" and we at least last awhile in pvp.


i am hoping for a positive change if not i will drop ch on that character and be my own tank.


Cielago
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:51 am
#12

Sheesh... is that hard to understand that currently pets are weak in pvp because they have been balanced for the upcoming class and combat revampe.
That doesn't meant pets will be effective after the revampe but currently "we" can't make any true comparison with the other combat class.





Captain Cielago
_______________________________
"Hope clouds judgement"
"Each experience carries its own lesson"
Frank Herbert's Dune.



scoutmasterDiamond
Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:19 am
#13

luke wasnt a jedi at that point.


and he didnt have any weapon. so he didnt actually kill it he just had anough of a good throw to aim for the door close button.






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Loot Hunter, Mercenary, KEEPER OF THE UNPEACE




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