Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Pinning Attack?
Not that I know of yet. I have tamed a ton of L1 and L2 pets as well as others and no one has found Pinning Attack L1 or L2.
Supposedly someone found Pin L3 on a Giant Angler. No proof to back up the claim though. I have tamed several Giant Anglers myself and have only gotten Thick Skin L2 on them. Gonna keep trying and hope to at least find Pin L3 and be able to provide some proof that L3 exists or not.
If I get a Giant Angler with Pin L3 on Gorath server you can be sure I'll be showing it off to other CH's liike Archiie in order to back up my claim, as well as screen shots (but those can be faked as we have seen).
If anyone gets a Pet with any level of Pin attack I would suggest you post a time you will be online and what server and location on that server so we can all stop by to look at the lil bugger in a trade window to verify your claim. This is the only thing that will convince me it is in game short of finding it myself.
From the data entered on swgcreatures, the Giant Angler follows the Cowering Vigilance / Defensive Agility / Thick Skin grouping. (See this thread for details on special grouping.)
If the special grouping theory holds true and giant anglers really do give Pinning Attack L3, then it seems pets can have two sets of groups. A Ranger looking at the Bark Mite Queen does see three types of specials (Area, Combo, and meleeattack1 I believe), so it is possible. Until we see one for sure, we just cannot know and predicting what else might have it is nearly impossible.
Seiryuu wrote:
It's possible, but as we have no solid confirmations even guessing is difficult.
From the data entered on swgcreatures, the Giant Angler follows the Cowering Vigilance / Defensive Agility / Thick Skin grouping. (See this thread for details on special grouping.)
If the special grouping theory holds true and giant anglers really do give Pinning Attack L3, then it seems pets can have two sets of groups. A Ranger looking at the Bark Mite Queen does see three types of specials (Area, Combo, and meleeattack1 I believe), so it is possible. Until we see one for sure, we just cannot know and predicting what else might have it is nearly impossible.
The Bloodseeker mite queen attacks should not be confused with the innate specials found in wild creatures or those trained to creatures. These special attacks are base attacks and are used irrespective of trainable specials.
All CH creatures have the base special attack (meleeattack), some have (areaattack), only the bloodseeker mite queen has the (areacombo attack). The way special attacks are listed on SWG is very confusing as a result especially to rangers. The examine system only ever lists the three generic attacks and never the trainable specials.
The bloodseeker mite still has the three trainable innate pool like other pets, but this system is unrelated to the special attacks (melee, area and areacombo)
My basic point was that there is too much we don't know and even suggesting where to look for Pinning Attack is a stab in the dark.
Hardley wrote:
My theory ... developers decided a "pinning attack" would be unbalancing and did not implement it in live!
QFE I would think that if it was a root and it worked like Hamstring you could chain root and that was very unbalancing so it has been shelved for now.
Grambacca wrote:
Not that I know of yet. I have tamed a ton of L1 and L2 pets as well as others and no one has found Pinning Attack L1 or L2.
Supposedly someone found Pin L3 on a Giant Angler. No proof to back up the claim though. I have tamed several Giant Anglers myself and have only gotten Thick Skin L2 on them. Gonna keep trying and hope to at least find Pin L3 and be able to provide some proof that L3 exists or not.
If I get a Giant Angler with Pin L3 on Gorath server you can be sure I'll be showing it off to other CH's liike Archiie in order to back up my claim, as well as screen shots (but those can be faked as we have seen).
If anyone gets a Pet with any level of Pin attack I would suggest you post a time you will be online and what server and location on that server so we can all stop by to look at the lil bugger in a trade window to verify your claim. This is the only thing that will convince me it is in game short of finding it myself.
Hardley wrote:
My theory ... developers decided a "pinning attack" would be unbalancing and did not implement it in live!
1. The attack dosent exist period.
2. You all are missing one other ability found on giant anglers and that is guarded stance L3 which blows a hole in your grouping theory.
3. I have tamed hundreds of giant anglers on yavin this proves its not the case.
Stop spreading rumors and gossip about this thing the giant angler person is just lying and getting attention for it.
Hardley wrote:
My theory ... developers decided a "pinning attack" would be unbalancing and did not implement it in live!
Im with Hardley on this one. What i dont understand is why we seem unable to get a Dev to give us a simple yes or no on whether it is or isnt in the game. Heck there are some others as well that we need confirmation on. A full list of what is or isnt available would be greatly appreciated. We dont even need to know what gives what, just knowing if they are possible is good enough.
You all are missing one other ability found on giant anglers and that is guarded stance L3 which blows a hole in your grouping theory.
From Scooter's list of everything posted on the specials thread:
Giant Angler,Yavin,68,Cowering Vigilance,3
Giant Angler,Yavin,68,Defensive Agility,2
Giant Angler,Yavin,68,Pinning Attack,3
Giant Angler,Yavin,68,Thick Skin ,2
Do Giant Anglers have Guarded Stance L3? I'm not saying they do not, but the master list I use as a general guideline does not have it listed. If you have tamed hundreds of Giant Anglers, what about this list above is or is not correct?
It doesn't blow any grouping theories away though. Keep in mind the groupings were compiled mostly around the L1 specials where I have seen nothing to contridict it. The higher levels seem to follow the trend and swgcreatures will back this up (even the Giant Angler from this list at least). However, an important part of the theory says there may be undiscovered groups (of which I have yet to see any, but I certainly cannot rule it out).