Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Can you guys seriously not wait 30 seconds?
You said it yourself, it's an un-needed time sink. And a penalty when your pet autostores, gets lost, or runs away; none of which we're causing.
I'll actually time a camp craft/drop/call and get back to you on what a CH can do. But I can craft camps waiting for the other silly time-sink, aka shuttle.
I was one of the first Master CHs on Chilastria, so don't say I'm not even a CH. Plus, as you can see in my title, I am going for ranger at the moment (had to drop master scout a while ago for medic skills). Did I say anywhere that I cannot craft camps? No, actually, I said I can craft camps.
Yes, I agree with you Fantoq that it is another time sink. However, all I'm trying to point out, is that it is a VERY short time sink. What is 30 seconds really?
I think it makes perfect sense. It's more realistic and even if you save a few seconds making a camp it's still a bother to alway have resources and such. I totally don't understand why people are so opposed to every change in this game. I thought that this change was great when I heard about it. Can't believe so many people are opposed to it. People waste so much time sitting around talking and doing nothing, I can't believe people are even going to notice. I really think people are going to find this to be an improvement. Not that anyone would admit to it, since most people are stuborn teenagers here I'm sure.
BTW all CH's have to be scouts... it's the pre-req.
JoriQ wrote:
I think it makes perfect sense. It's more realistic and even if you save a few seconds making a camp it's still a bother to alway have resources and such. I totally don't understand why people are so opposed to every change in this game. I thought that this change was great when I heard about it. Can't believe so many people are opposed to it. People waste so much time sitting around talking and doing nothing, I can't believe people are even going to notice. I really think people are going to find this to be an improvement. Not that anyone would admit to it, since most people are stuborn teenagers here I'm sure.
BTW all CH's have to be scouts... it's the pre-req.
How's it realistic? I click on a radial no one else can see, and call my pet. Stand around whistling for thirty seconds, 3 rounds of this old man for time reference. Then the pet magically appears.
I'm free to waste time when I want to. When 5 other players are waiting for me, the only CH to either call a camp or wait 30 seconds to call a pet, it's wasting time that could be used.
I'll be happy to report if I find this to be an improvement. And the only stubborn teenager in my house is my daughter.
i like the new 30 sec timer. before that we couldnt even call pets with out being in a camp or city. besides it think it will actualy save us time. try setting up a camp in an arean that is covered with lairs and you get the message "you can not set up a camp this close to a lair". you would have to run up to 200m sometimesbefore you find a clear spot to get that camp down and call your pets out then run back to the mission.The60second store timer on combat is understandable to prevent exploiting. overall i think this will save usall some time.
Steiner.
Steinerguy wrote:
i like the new 30 sec timer. before that we couldnt even call pets with out being in a camp or city. besides it think it will actualy save us time. try setting up a camp in an arean that is covered with lairs and you get the message "you can not set up a camp this close to a lair". you would have to run up to 200m sometimesbefore you find a clear spot to get that camp down and call your pets out then run back to the mission.The60second store timer on combat is understandable to prevent exploiting. overall i think this will save usall some time.
Steiner.
I think the biggest objection is not to the 30 second timer itself, but that it going to be in effect at all times - in a city, camp or the wilderness. This means that, instead of being able to call a pet instantly in a city or camp as we do right now, we are being given a 30 second delay. For everything - need to call your droid for a quick heal before jumping on the shuttle? Wait 30 seconds. Generating your vehicle as you leave the city - wait 30 seconds. Showing a prospective client a mount? Wait 30 seconds. He wants to see a different type? Wait again. He wants the first one after all? Wait again.
No, its not a huge amount of time,but it is totally unnessecary and, as Sio said, the reason behind it is intellectually dishonest. Plus, given that this is new code being added to something that has been bugged several times in the past, does anyone seriously expect it to work right for the first 2 months? Its an unwanted and unjustified timesink for no reason other than to have a timesink. If the pets actually walked up from off-radar during this 30 seconds, I would be all for it - that would be pretty awesome. But they won't. As fantoq says, it will just be a case of sitting twiddling your thumbs for 30 seconds then poof, it appears just as before. I am not going to get heated about it, but its just another one of those things that adds just a littletedium for no good reason.
To the original poster that doubted 30 seconds is much longer than we take atm - using my dismount macro I can disembark, set a camp and call a pet in about 4-5 seconds, less if I have a chance to get my datapad open on the power down (which is most of the time). Choosing a place to set the camp isn't a problem, I just plan as I ride in and pick a spot to stop.
Those who said that they could set a camp up and call a pet in less than 30 seconds, I'd just like to see that. If anything, it takes more than 30 seconds for the normal Creature Handler.
"Did I say anywhere that I cannot craft camps? No, actually, I said I can craft camps."
No, but you DID say the above, which suggests you were either (1) a terrible scout or (2) just plain lying. I just crafted a basic camp in under 15 secs. Dropped it in 3, called a pet in 4 and was done. That too fast for ya? Come by Flurry some time if you'd like to see it again. I'll bet I can do it faster...
The 30 second timer is pointless. Since I can craft a camp faster, all it does is save me time if I don't feel like making a camp. There is absolutely no reason for it. All it does is make me wait 10 seconds longer to start a fight. I can see o good reason for it. Pets in PvP suck and in PvE, you just sit out of range and wait. It'sa stupid nerf and should be WAY down (if not off) the list given the other, more important bugs (need I mention the persistent "sliding technique"?)