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Thread: Prima's ranking rares..
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hossp
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:12 am
#1
i have been meaning to post the "rarest" pets in terms of % for a baby to spawn as listed by the prima jtl/swg guide..so here goes:
#1 Frenzied graul -.01%
#2 Bull Rancor - .1%
#3 Merek Death's Head .5%
tie 4 & 5
Arachne widow 1%
Mantigrue screecher 1%
tie 6 & 7 & 8
Great Plains Stalker 5%
Prowling gurreck %5
Gaping Spider queen 5%
tie 9 &10
Malignant squill 10%
rhoa kwi pack leader 10%
tie 11 &12 &13
Thune grassland Guardian 15%
Wild dune boar 15%
Rhoa kwi guardian 15%
the book posted lair bosses at 5% but i did not include them here as we really don't know if the do spawn babies at all..i have seen less than 20 total lair bosses of varying species, and unless someone has tamed one, it would lead me to think they are "possible yet impossibe" at the same time...
it should be noted that thse percentages seen to pertain only to % of a baby spawning, not the % of adults spawning..take the RKPL abd the mag squill for example, you will trip over rkpl's going to the village, but the squill is much harder to find..
base tame % is 25%...there are a few listed at 20%, such as the swamp stalker..
thought i post this in case anyone was interested
Message Edited by hossp on 02-21-2005 02:07 PM
Turbana
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:11 am
#2
Yeah, thanks. I don't have the Prima guide, but I always hear people quoting it and wanted to know what pets had what %. Thanks. 
Imreanna
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:56 am
#3
I just tamed a gaping spider queen yesterday on Starsider, I just wanted to see if one spawned, and yes it did My first lair hehe.
My first lair hehe.
Halthron
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:51 am
#4
<sigh> I saw two MDH babies over the weekend, didn't realize they were that rare else I would have posted.
Kitoth
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:35 am
#5
Prowling Gurreck 5%
Great Plains Stalker 5%
???
I say BS!Saturday was my last day as MCH on my main so I spent the first half ofit looking for spawn #s 25, 26 and 27 in my GPS hunt. That's ~108 adult Great Plains Stalkers with no babies.I spent the second half of the day touring the various planetsfrom which my petscame before I gave them over to my alt. While I was running across endor I came across a spawn of prowling gurrecks. I killed them all in a few whacks from my saber and waited. Mind you I've seen only one other spawn of prowling gurrecks before and it had a baby (that I ignored). Sure enough, on respawn, there was a baby.
Either the Prowling Gurreck % needs to go up or the GPS % needs to go down. At 100 adults I should have tamed 5 if it's 5%.
I tamed the prowling gurreck just for the heck of it, but I didn't really care. The GPSwas the only remaining 'rare' I wanted and I've been hosed out of it.
Ekaw
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:19 pm
#6
the way i read it, and the way i have always thought it worked it that for every adult that spawns, a baby will spawn .05 % of the time. Which, in the GPS vs prowling gurrek scenrio makes a lot of sense. I find prowling gurrek spawns all the time and have tamed a prowling gurrek.
I rarely ever find gps spawns however.
Kitoth
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:50 pm
#7
I've seen 2 prowling gurreck spawns of about 2-4 adults each. And 2 babies to go with them.
I've seen 27 GPS spawns. And no babies to go with them.
I think what it boils down to is.... I couldn't care less about getting the prowling gurreck, so naturally, of the two, that's the baby I'm able to find. 
You'd think that the law of averages would state that the more you roll the die, the more likely you are of getting a specific number to come up. And rather than feel excited that I'm getting 'closer', it just feels like I'm getting farther and farther away and there's less and less a point to even bothering. You can only roll snake eyes for so long before you begin to feel you're cursed to bad rolls.
Vertexon
Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:56 pm
#8
Listing boss spawns as tamableat 5% is interesting. With the exception of things like diseased vrelts matriarchs, I have to admit I don't encounter any one type of boss often enough for me to say I've done an exhaustive search. I did spend about a month trying to get a boss bol to spawn as a baby once, without much luck.
I'd have thought at least one baby of any boss type would have been reported on this forum by now, though, if they were really spawning (particularly at a number like 5%).
hossp
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:01 pm
#9
Vertexon wrote:
Listing boss spawns as tamableat 5% is interesting. With the exception of things like diseased vrelts matriarchs, I have to admit I don't encounter any one type of boss often enough for me to say I've done an exhaustive search. I did spend about a month trying to get a boss bol to spawn as a baby once, without much luck.
I'd have thought at least one baby of any boss type would have been reported on this forum by now, though, if they were really spawning (particularly at a number like 5%).
yeah vert i've though about that too..but i also though that since i am a rifleman i usually use an aoe shot to finish a lair...and although i have only seen a handfull of boss creatures, i have to wonder if i have instantly killed any babies...as i mention earlir it took me nearly 200 cats to get a gps..also 5%, i can't imaging how long it would take to get 200 of the same bosses to spawn for me..
Halthron
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:16 pm
#10
Kitoth wrote:Prowling Gurreck 5%Great Plains Stalker 5%???I say BS! Saturday was my last day as MCH on my main so I spent the first half of it looking for spawn #s 25, 26 and 27 in my GPS hunt. That's ~108 adult Great Plains Stalkers with no babies. ... At 100 adults I should have tamed 5 if it's 5%.I tamed the prowling gurreck just for the heck of it, but I didn't really care. The GPS was the only remaining 'rare' I wanted and I've been hosed out of it.
108 isn't a big enough sample to determine if it truely is 5%. I've probably seen a few hundred helping people find a GPS and finding four would lead me to believe that 1.5% is the right rate, if 300 were a big enough sample, which it isn't either. Statistically, you'd need to examine over 1000 to get anywhere close to a correct number, with 2-3k spawns to get a decent feel for if it's off by more than a percent
hossp
Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:30 am
#11
Kitoth wrote:
Prowling Gurreck 5%
Great Plains Stalker 5%
???
I say BS!Saturday was my last day as MCH on my main so I spent the first half ofit looking for spawn #s 25, 26 and 27 in my GPS hunt. That's ~108 adult Great Plains Stalkers with no babies.I spent the second half of the day touring the various planetsfrom which my petscame before I gave them over to my alt. While I was running across endor I came across a spawn of prowling gurrecks. I killed them all in a few whacks from my saber and waited. Mind you I've seen only one other spawn of prowling gurrecks before and it had a baby (that I ignored). Sure enough, on respawn, there was a baby.
Either the Prowling Gurreck % needs to go up or the GPS % needs to go down. At 100 adults I should have tamed 5 if it's 5%.
I tamed the prowling gurreck just for the heck of it, but I didn't really care. The GPSwas the only remaining 'rare' I wanted and I've been hosed out of it.
i killed around 200 gps's to get mine..some people kill 2, there was a post a while back about 2 being tamed within 5 min or so..it averages out..since there was a "swarm" of prowling gurrecks, it was effectively 4 or 5 gps spawns..these stats do not refelct the difficulty in obtaining them as i said in the initial post ( a wild dune boar is much harder to get than a rhoa kwi guardian), merely the %age of baby spawns for each species..at least you know the gps is coming, soon
Rylec
Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:18 am
#12
There is some kinda limit on some rare creatures that makes sure that there is no baby in the initial wave (right?). I wonder if the devs put the same limitation on boss creatures, so since there is ever only one boss per lair, and if bosses are programmed so there is no baby in the initial wave...
Vertexon wrote:
Listing boss spawns as tamableat 5% is interesting. With the exception of things like diseased vrelts matriarchs, I have to admit I don't encounter any one type of boss often enough for me to say I've done an exhaustive search. I did spend about a month trying to get a boss bol to spawn as a baby once, without much luck.
I'd have thought at least one baby of any boss type would have been reported on this forum by now, though, if they were really spawning (particularly at a number like 5%).
hossp
Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:47 am
#13
Rylec wrote:
There is some kinda limit on some rare creatures that makes sure that there is no baby in the initial wave (right?). I wonder if the devs put the same limitation on boss creatures, so since there is ever only one boss per lair, and if bosses are programmed so there is no baby in the initial wave...
there could be..as you work a spawn, in my experience , the chance for a babyseems to go up the more you kill (for example: in rares the have no lair the initial "guard" is almost always an adulti.e.[ GPS, malignant squill, WDB,TGG, heck even a swampstalker]....i have found a gaping spider queen baby(5%) outside an insect hill before, so i can state through experience this is not always the case, and i have heard rumors of people finding a bull rancor baby outside a pile of rocks on initial approach...i wonder if this is factored in to the %age number given?..that mabey the 1st one doesn't count..that would explain why no bosses have been tamed..hehe
....i have found a gaping spider queen baby(5%) outside an insect hill before, so i can state through experience this is not always the case, and i have heard rumors of people finding a bull rancor baby outside a pile of rocks on initial approach...i wonder if this is factored in to the %age number given?..that mabey the 1st one doesn't count..that would explain why no bosses have been tamed..hehe
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