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Thread: Tiggs, TH, where do you go when we need you?

DustusNavar
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:41 pm
#1

Tiggs & TH,


Every time there is a major publish or change that the player base is, as a whole, against and we speak up about it you two vanish. Why is that? This has happened several times in the past, as it did today. All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip". This adds insult to injury. I'm sure there's something in the Official SOE Customer Service Handbook (tm)that says, "When your player base becomes angry do not respond to them, it only makes them madder" or something. It was just last week that we had like 20+ posts a day from red-names. Today we got 0. These are the times when we really need you to tell us what the heck is going on. Or hell, maybe we don't, no one will read this anyways...



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Klinsek
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:32 am
#2

Different publish, SOS.

I'm not ruling out the possibilty that Tiggs and TH are "told" to keep their lips tight when the fires are blazing around SOE like this. Still though, the lack of communication is appaling, however friggin used to it we all are.




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Tiggs
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:39 am
#3






DustusNavar wrote:

Tiggs & TH,


Every time there is a major publish or change that the player base is, as a whole, against and we speak up about it you two vanish. Why is that? This has happened several times in the past, as it did today. All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip". This adds insult to injury. I'm sure there's something in the Official SOE Customer Service Handbook (tm)that says, "When your player base becomes angry do not respond to them, it only makes them madder" or something. It was just last week that we had like 20+ posts a day from red-names. Today we got 0. These are the times when we really need you to tell us what the heck is going on. Or hell, maybe we don't, no one will read this anyways...






Hello,


When we do a major publish to all Live servers, I am in the launchpad chat until all servers are up. At the same time we (TH and I)are gathering information from all over the message boards and passing it back to the team. Publish days and a few days there afterare ourbusiest days. We are working hard to make surethe player concerns are heard. Unfortunately due to all of this it can appear to you that those are the days we are doing the least amount of communicating =(


We will try to work on that and find a level ground so that the communication is flowing to the Devs and still to you the community.


Tiggs
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:40 am
#4







DustusNavar wrote:


Tiggs & TH,


All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip".





These are completed weeks ahead of time which is why they still go up without fail.

Aulendil
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:49 am
#5

It is a shame Tiggs has to deal with all of this hatred because Im sure she is a very nice person irl. But SOE bring all this on themselves by not listening to the community at all and pushing 'fixes and nerfs' that the majority don't even want added.










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Qui-Gonzalez
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:50 am
#6






Tiggs wrote:







DustusNavar wrote:


Tiggs & TH,


All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip".






These are completed weeks ahead of time which is why they still go up without fail.







I could touch on that with my normal "Captain Obvious" kind of comment, but I won't. I will say this: I will be glad when the Hoopla dies enough that we can get away from forced deadlines and the Dev teams have some serious time to devote to things that are busted.


At least you all are trying hard. Keep up the work, "Fanboys" like me will be here til you shut us down.





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Cojonelso
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:51 am
#7


Common People ...use your heads...


First off don't take out your fustrations on the only ppl trying to help us.


Think of how many post slammed the web site per minute let alone in a entire day.


and then trying to seperate the crying babies from the actual vaild player concerns...


and all the BS "im quitting" stomping feet whinner that you will see post that same thing again in a week and next month and next pub as they always have.


Tiggs, TH, and all the corr's are very busy with Pub 24..... and still everyone expects then to have answers that the devs them selves don't even have?


sheesh ....Jabba's palace is gone... and you want to know why know one is giving answers... MAYBE ...just MAYBE there trying to get them.... dam!!!


keep up the good job Tiggs, TH and ALL the corr's


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Meatpuppet1987
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:52 am
#8


Tiggs can you confirm the rumours about the "Nerf Dartboard" you guys have in the office?




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Ackehece
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:02 am
#9






Meatpuppet1987 wrote:


Tiggs can you confirm the rumours about the "Nerf Dartboard" you guys have in the office?





Sheesh! Now everyone will know the secret


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Heruler
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:11 am
#10



Tiggs wrote:


DustusNavar wrote:
Tiggs & TH,
Every time there is a major publish or change that the player base is, as a whole, against and we speak up about it you two vanish. Why is that? This has happened several times in the past, as it did today. All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip". This adds insult to injury. I'm sure there's something in the Official SOE Customer Service Handbook (tm) that says, "When your player base becomes angry do not respond to them, it only makes them madder" or something. It was just last week that we had like 20+ posts a day from red-names. Today we got 0. These are the times when we really need you to tell us what the heck is going on. Or hell, maybe we don't, no one will read this anyways...



Hello,

When we do a major publish to all Live servers, I am in the launchpad chat until all servers are up. At the same time we (TH and I) are gathering information from all over the message boards and passing it back to the team. Publish days and a few days there after are our busiest days. We are working hard to make sure the player concerns are heard. Unfortunately due to all of this it can appear to you that those are the days we are doing the least amount of communicating =(

We will try to work on that and find a level ground so that the communication is flowing to the Devs and still to you the community.





thankyou tiggs for giving us an incite to whats going on
as you probally know the comunity is highly upset and any info is greatly apreicated

Mach_Ine
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:12 am
#11

Tiggs, TH, something you both (I think) did on the Beta forums that worked very well from my point of view was a post in the bug threads that went something like "All issues posted prior to now have been forwarded to the Development team."


If you could get authorization from the Powers That Be to do something like that in the threads that you gather issues from, it would reassure us that we are getting heard... a lot of the posts out there that I see are essentially "Why don't you acknowledge this???????" posts. Issuing posts such as the "All issues" I mentioned above would probably generate more posts along the lines of "Rock on!!!", mixed in with the inevitable "And what is the Development team going to do about it???" and "Pfft the Dev team doesn't care anyways." thatare likely impossible to avoid.
Court-Jester
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:14 am
#12






Tiggs wrote:





DustusNavar wrote:

Tiggs & TH,


Every time there is a major publish or change that the player base is, as a whole, against and we speak up about it you two vanish. Why is that? This has happened several times in the past, as it did today. All we hear from you is a "Tiggs Toon", or a "Tuesday Tip". This adds insult to injury. I'm sure there's something in the Official SOE Customer Service Handbook (tm)that says, "When your player base becomes angry do not respond to them, it only makes them madder" or something. It was just last week that we had like 20+ posts a day from red-names. Today we got 0. These are the times when we really need you to tell us what the heck is going on. Or hell, maybe we don't, no one will read this anyways...






Hello,


When we do a major publish to all Live servers, I am in the launchpad chat until all servers are up. At the same time we (TH and I)are gathering information from all over the message boards and passing it back to the team. Publish days and a few days there afterare ourbusiest days. We are working hard to make surethe player concerns are heard. Unfortunately due to all of this it can appear to you that those are the days we are doing the least amount of communicating =(


We will try to work on that and find a level ground so that the communication is flowing to the Devs and still to you the community.








No offense but when its not 'crunch' time, whats the excuse then? I've participated in 2 betas now and both were stellar for communication. I won't go so far as to say that it was acceptable (we all know you guys forge ahead with 'fixes' we don't seem to understand or want) but the communication is amazing there.


Why can't that happen in the live forums 100% of the time? From what I see, there is no reason it could not. I doubt you'd address me directly, however, if you ever want to fix this image of not caring, post for godsake. AND for the love of all that is holy, start communicating the long term goals and live up to them. We (I use that term loosely as there will always be dev /pep boys) would like to see that our dedication to this game is going somewhere.



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Sithmaser6
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:15 am
#13

Tiggs, I think a lot of the issuesin the gameat the moment could be ended with some communication and few fixes. So please address these issues for us all.



1. Lava Crystal - About 90% of the jedi community and 100% of the rp community hate it and never asked for it. I know a lot of work wet into this idea and the whole lava planet but it's out of place. Please Replace with a few of the named crystals the jedi have been asking for forever. I.E. Complete rebel get Kenobi's Legacy, complete imperial get mauls vengeance, complete neutral get quetecence of the force.


2. New Snare and Avoid Incap changes have made 2 jedi master ability's useless are there plans to make these ability more useful again, or do you plan to replace them with something new, if it is something new what, please don't keep us hanging.


3. Zip bars on powers need to go!!! If there are no plans to remove them now or ever please explain why and how it balances gameplay.


4. Jedi have been asking for new robes for the better part of 6 months. Rather then toss us 2 cloaks with sub par stats that arn't worth getting besides for collecting, why not makes us happy and assign the old FRS robes to maser blocks. Give Knight robes to MLS, give master robes to enhancers ect. They don't even need better stats just something to help define our profession instead of the same old padawan robes. If you can't do this why?


5. Force rank systeme we need an update last anyone heard you had finished a new idea and it ws submitted for approval from lucasarts. Did you see in beta the exceitment that the old frs brought back.I think most jedi would be happy to have that syteme back even broken, as it was content which is better then noithing at all, while we wait for the new systeme.



Please Respond to our issues Tiggs


Thanks you,


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