Commando Archive
Thread: GARVIN ! What is the deal ?
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GankByEwoks
Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:10 pm
#1
GARVIN are we getting a new weapon or what ?
Every profession and I mean EVERY profession has recieved a new weapon of some sortover the last 6 monthsEXCEPT us Commandos ! What the heck is going on ? Some professions have recieved2 newweapons !!
I am sick and tired of hearing about Combat Revamps and Balanceswhen new weapons are being givenout like candyin every New Publish. I mean we commandos arent even asking for new sh*t just fix thefreaking stuff we got !
If anyone doubts my claims then look at the proof for yourself...
Pistoleers - DE - 10 , Geo Pistol
Carbineers - Nyms Carbine
Rifleman - DXR 6 , Breserker Rifle
Pikeman - ( Unknown name ) Spear, Night Sister Lance
Swordsman - Executioner Hack , Scythe
Fencer - Janta Knife
Tera Kasi Artist - Black SunKnuckles
Combat Medic - Spider Venom Poison
Now come on people, we all know that some of these professions are overpowered as is, and if they are getting new weapons how the flyingf**k is this helping the Combat Balance?
All we have ever asked for, is for our " current "commandoweapons to be fixed..
No new animations, No new artwork, No new sound effects.. Just fix the freaking numbers.. Can we please get these freaking numbers fixed !! Some Professions that are not even asking for weapons are getting weapons new weapons shoved down their throat while our current weapons remain broken orborked ! 
GARVIN !TAKE OFF THE GLOVES MAN !
Gank By Ewoks
Ster
Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:24 pm
#2
The crazy man has a point. But it isnt Garvin's lack of force that is stopping our issues from being heard.The DEVs, in their infinite wisdom, have deemed other professions and issues more important and pressing than our own. Unfortunately our best option right now is to wait and see what turns up. Of course the longer they wait on our issues, the more bitter we tend to become... 
Ariven
Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:25 pm
#3
GankByEwoks wrote:GARVIN are we getting a new weapon or what ?Every profession and I mean EVERY profession has recieved a new weapon of some sort over the last 6 months EXCEPT us Commandos ! What the heck is going on ? Some professions have recieved 2 new weapons !!I am sick and tired of hearing about Combat Revamps and Balances when new weapons are being given out like candy in every New Publish. I mean we commandos arent even asking for new sh*t just fix the freaking stuff we got !If anyone doubts my claims then look at the proof for yourself...Pistoleers - DE - 10 , Geo PistolCarbineers - Nyms CarbineRifleman - DXR 6 , Breserker RiflePikeman - ( Unknown name ) Spear , Night Sister LanceSwordsman - Executioner Hack , ScytheFencer - Janta KnifeTera Kasi Artist - Black Sun KnucklesCombat Medic - Spider Venom PoisonNow come on people, we all know that some of these professions are overpowered as is, and if they are getting new weapons how the flying f**k is this helping the Combat Balance?All we have ever asked for, is for our " current " commando weapons to be fixed..No new animations, No new artwork, No new sound effects.. Just fix the freaking numbers.. Can we please get these freaking numbers fixed !! Some Professions that are not even asking for weapons are getting weapons new weapons shoved down their throat while our current weapons remain broken or borked !GARVIN ! TAKE OFF THE GLOVES MAN !Gank By Ewoks
I still dont see the razor knuckers in game...
Nor do I see BH on your list..
But I agree with you, give commando another heavy weapon .. (heck, let you guys use the LLC too)..
Glyndo
Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:11 pm
#4
Heck ya...if they don't add a new weapon for commando's, I'd be all for letting commando's and BH's share the LLC and the FT.
Shoot, the special are almost the same anyway. The FT just has a DOT.
Glyndo Malina, Retired Elder Smuggler 
Evelas
Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:12 pm
#5
First off, I'm a TKM, Razor Knucklers were taken out upon release due to imbalance issues, we get those back with the combat rebalance we've been told.
Second, the developers have hinted that we'll get some good stuff.
garvin
Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:15 pm
#6
Yes...most professions have gained something over the last few months...from new limited schematics...new weapons...to other things...and Commandos haven't gotten anything...except a promise...
TH announced awhile back that we are getting a new tree...We are also seeing our Lootable Heavy Weapon mods getting fixed...so right there, that's something, even if it's not in game yet...
Besides...look at the troubles that have come with many of the new weapons and new schematics that have come into game...Several of the professions that got new weapons found them weaker or less useful then weapons they already had...and those that got powerful weapons, they have to get super rare materials to build them (from a target that only spawns once per day per server)....And the schematics are limited use for the most part...more complaits have come up since the introduction of these new items then before...
I want the devs to give us something useful enough that we will use it, but also something that doesn't come with too heavy a price...it has to be balance...hence, the Combat Balance...
To get a new weapon just because other professions are would be rushing things...The TKA's were told they were getting the Razor VK's too quickly...when it was found that they were unbalanced and not added to the live servers, the entire community was heart broken...that's why proper testing and balancing has to go into these things before release...or else we could end up with another ***shudder*** HAR.
Ta10c
Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:35 pm
#7
personally i wouldnt like to see any new weapons, cos usally most people get angry that they r crap.
as in the nightsister energy lance, its crap yet the hardest weapon in the game to get. this just made the pikeman community angry (of course they get one).
a bit like the DE-10 is crap, its just for show.
so i would prefer commando to stay strong and not have any show off weapons.
but there r some like the geo weapons which r very useful, but i cant see what they would add for us.
Vagrantprodigy
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:38 pm
#8
The Razor Knucklers were crap, heat damage simply isn't worth using without a DOT, even at the high damage that would have caused.
Restrik
Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:12 pm
#9
lol razer knucklers were heat damage? wow thats a low blow...give TKM both Kinetic and Heat...2 of the 3 highest resisted damages in game...
Of course, we have 2 of 3 as well
RazerWolf
Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:04 am
#10
Vagrantprodigy wrote:The Razor Knucklers were crap, heat damage simply isn't worth using without a DOT, even at the high damage that would have caused.
But they'd have been better than VKs in PVP. Same AP, doesn't matter what the damage type is as a set of PVP comp has equal Kin/Ene/Heat/Cold/Acid anyway. The Razors were hitting 300 damage unsliced, UnarmedHeadHit1 with them and lots of dead.
GankByEwoks
Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:53 am
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Garvin..
I agree with you that it wouldnt be smart to rush a weapon out for the sake of keeping up with the community however as I stated I dont think the Commando Community wants a new weapon, yeah of course we would like a assualt rifle, but the majority probably just want our current weapons fixed rather then have a " New " weapon that is also broken.
I also disagree with your claim that other new weapons that have been released are useless.. Yes in their current state some weapons may look usless but the Devs have stated over and over that newweapons being released are set for the new combat balance ( whenever that is.. ) .
My issue is..
Why releaseANY new weapons without fixing the ones already being used.. Its a waste of time to add new artwork , new animations, new sound effects for anew weapon that may be rare and difficult to obtain then fixing the numbers on current weapons that are flooded on vendors and in every player backpack.
Is it really that hard of a fix to change the numbers ? I dont think so, the Jedi Revamp proves it, before the revamp no existing armor had Light Saber vulernability, after the patch, every creature, armor, and player was effected by lightsabers. So it can be done, and it was done in one publish ! 9 publishes later we are still using the same broked weapons and waiting for some promise, while other professions are getting newweapons thrown at their feet they didnt even ask for..
Point Blank..
The developers do not think are weapons are borked or broken.. This is why we are constantly beingoverlooked, this iswhy we are given nerfs like the flame dot and never granted anything in returnbecause probably in the eyes ofdevelopers we are still Over Powered and do not see any reason to give us something.
GANK BY EWOKS
Ster
Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:22 am
#12
I would have to say this. At this point in time I would rather have working and useful HWs and grenades than get a new weapon. I understand the frustration of everyone else getting new weapons right now without fixing the old ones, but we have almost every type of damage in the game at our disposal. In my opinion getting all of those working would make me very happy.
Skeptic666
Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:32 am
#13
Yes I am very annoyed with commando. That is why I have not been playing. I have stoped on now and again to check harvesters and go TKM some Enraged Rancors now and again to pay for my mining. But I read that nothing has changed I go in and I see this delay do nothing but hurt us. Now that I can no longer change to my bear hands after a lon 14 second delay I die far to easy. And I live on the Bria server. I don't know if you all know this but like 10-30 like billion creds where duped and handed out to many imp players. So on that server the imps have the best stuff and every thing elses costs a fortune. And yes any bria players that read this check the old forum posts. THat is why I was told the econmy is so messed up on that galaxy. When I buy HW I end up paying like 50 if I am lucky to 90k for a RL and any where from 9 from a guild mate if I have some of the metals which is rare. TO about 70k a pop. Now from a commando point of view how the heck am I sapose to make money like that to pay for those especialy how fast they go and how much they miss. Its Kinda rather sad. And we have to sit back and wait another 2-4 months to even see any thing happen even on test center those that get to test it
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