Commando Archive
Thread: RE: TH's Latest Post Regarding the State of the CB
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Aladine
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:03 pm
#1
I'm sure there would be 100's of recent college grads with Computer Science degrees who would jump at the chance to work for SOE, and many would work for cheap...hell, I'll even put up the fliers around local colleges for them if they want to get some "inexpensive" programmers to grind out some of the less exciting, yet MORE IMPORTANT game fixes, rather then the new content.
Hellshot
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:15 pm
#2
/sigh
15 dollars a month could go to a lot of different things.
Vagrantprodigy
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:16 pm
#3
Hellshot wrote:
/sigh
15 dollars a month could go to a lot of different things.
Right now it's going to line the pockets of a few execs obviously.
Aladine
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:19 pm
#4
Yea, I'm starting to consider buying a war3 beta account myself on Ebay...they keep pushing back the patches and revamps...it sounds to me like they are understaffed...this isn't a developer problem (I know a few developers for other companies and they all work 70+ hours a week SOE devs can't be much different) this is a management problem. They seemunderstaffed and overworked maybe its time that SOE gets it head out of its ass and hires more developers.
garvin
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:19 pm
#5
Please remember...End of August is when Publish 10 is suppose to go live...and with that publish the plan is to address many of the Correspondents Top Issues (hint hint...Top 5 maybe)...With this recent delay announcement...TH has put more emphasis on this publishinstead ofasking us to "wait" as he's previously done over and over...many of our issues that would have probably seen the light of day, going live around Publish 11, may get pushed up to going live with Publish 10...
The most important thing we need to do now is make sure our issues are clearly stated, brief, and non-overall game effecting (as much as possible)...I will continue to constantly take our issues to TH to get us as much as possible out of Publish 10...
Things may seem dark, but in reality, we may get a lot of what we want (or at least some) a month earlier then expected...
Message Edited by garvin on 07-15-2004 01:21 PM
Skeptic666
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:20 pm
#6
this is complete crap. I love you Garvin but I no longer half the hope that you once brought to me about our profession. You can do all you would like and we have been told again and again to wait for the Combat Balance. Well this will be the second or third push back? that means we have been screwd for a year before they do any thing? This is complete BS. I have been playing more in the hopes that you have given me and I could not bare to see Commando go. But now.... I just don't know what to do. What kind of complete morons are running this game. You would think they would do something to make them money instead of making so many quit and fubar a game that had (key word HAD) alot of potential. Im sure most will post it still does. But I dont see that untill as early as 2060. SO there is no point. I guess im back to my angry commando ways. I got bored on City of heros so I guess im back to ranting and raving here till Garvins gets mad at me and tells me to take a flying leap in to a pile of Sh*%.
LordSeckmoth
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:20 pm
#7
Lithium Hiccup
Message Edited by LordSeckmoth on 07-15-2004 04:21 PM
Vagrantprodigy
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:24 pm
#8
If TH wants to help us, which I dont' really think he does, he can tell management that the player base is fed up with Sony. We are **edit**ing tired of them pushing things back. Currently SOE recieves over 7.5 million dollars per month from just the subscription fees from this game. They can afford to hire more devs. However, they are now $15 dollars less per month, unless I see something good happening before August 2nd.
garvin
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:24 pm
#9
Ya know I love ya Skeptic...I see a lot of myself in your posts (LordS, our previous Correspondent, can attest to them I'm sure)...I use to be one of the King Ranters of this forum before getting promoted...Part of me thinks TH promoted me thinking it would curb my rantings...little did he realize that I now just post them in the Correspondent forum for closer inspection...lol
Skeptic666 wrote:
I guess im back to my angry commando ways. I got bored on City of heros so I guess im back to ranting and raving here till Garvins gets mad at me and tells me to take a flying leap in to a pile of Sh*%.
Message Edited by garvin on 07-15-2004 01:31 PM
Skeptic666
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:27 pm
#10
you mean now post them now know post them right? And ya Im just angry. Commando is one of the most horrible things. Dude you need to have them get rid of that 2.5x crap untill the revamp this crap is just killing us.
Message Edited by Skeptic666 on 07-15-2004 01:28 PM
Phalx
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:43 pm
#11
Garvin, its just wishful thinking on your part that the Devs will really help us out much before the CB. You recently made a post about what changes they could make that did not require much work on their part. That is the key there -- not much work on their part.
Now, multiply this statement across all of the other professions. The limited time they have available because they're hellbent on delivering JTL, and you get next to nothing. You have time for some very very minor changes. They're going to throw everyone a bone, and nothing more. They've proven this countless times in the last year.
And to prove my point about throwing a bone, TH said there was a "surprise" slated for everyone in one of the publishes coming up. If its so top-secret, what are the odds its something the players are screaming about, and not just some other piece of worthless artwork or something to that nature? Its just another example of mis-appropriated allocation of resources.
I'm frustrated with this game. They rake in $15/month from all of us, and won't spend the money on the necessary resources to support it.
Now, multiply this statement across all of the other professions. The limited time they have available because they're hellbent on delivering JTL, and you get next to nothing. You have time for some very very minor changes. They're going to throw everyone a bone, and nothing more. They've proven this countless times in the last year.
And to prove my point about throwing a bone, TH said there was a "surprise" slated for everyone in one of the publishes coming up. If its so top-secret, what are the odds its something the players are screaming about, and not just some other piece of worthless artwork or something to that nature? Its just another example of mis-appropriated allocation of resources.
I'm frustrated with this game. They rake in $15/month from all of us, and won't spend the money on the necessary resources to support it.
JeepJedi
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:45 pm
#12
Garvin, I hope you are right and this helps us rather than hinders us... but even for a casual player as myself this delay comes as quite a blow.
I hope your optimism pays off... but we sure have been let down a ton over and over again.
LordSeckmoth
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:59 pm
#13
Everyone,
I'll try and keep the peace here, while Garvin fights on the inside, because I know I can do some good. You have to try and understand that a decision like this is extremly hard for the developers. They know the pain and angst it's going to cause... but it's what had to be done right now.
More than anything they want the answer to all fixes to be "Right now." But that obviously cannot happen, with so much having to be done, so it has to be "When the time is available." They do know that this is going to hurt, they know it's gonna cause lost customers, all of that is seen. But they do what will make a better game 6-12 months down the road... it's a sad yet true fact about all MMO's.
I know how you're all looking at your $15 and saying why should I spend this if it's gonna keep getting pushed back? Well go and look at all you have not yet tried in the game. There is a lot to explore, see, try, do, etc. Haven't done PvP? Try it. Haven't been a crafter? Don't grind it... but see if you can make a sucessful business.
I know there are parts of this game you just LOVE right now... so much that you will quit if it's not fixed. Well find things new; and look back at that self that was there when you first logged into SWG. Now look at everything that has changed from then to now... you can see the progress. The game is advancing, and I can still see it plainly, and know it will come out great in the end.
You also have to remember... I pay that same $15 a month you guys do. I can see down the road, and until that "Golden Time", I will find all that is great within SWG. Please try and follow with me... and I know you can enjoy your time. 
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