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Thread: With all these geonosian weapons, we are now completely left in the dust.

TechnoHic
Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:59 pm
#1

Im telling you what, I have still been holding my own and serving a role in group PvP here lately because of my defeses. People see the FT and want me gone, and typically I am soon enough but I've made it take some time to get rid of me freeing up my friends to fire at will. The FT is totally pathetic now in PvP, as you all know, so I just run around creating a diversion because people seem to be dumb and stil fear it while armored and bufffed.


The point I want to talk about though is really our FT, even at full glory, is nothing compared to these geonosian weapons coming out, I mean, I dont know if its parts they use in weapons that could also be used in a FT or what but I've seen pistols do almost as much damage as my 800 damage FT. We always were outdamaged by DPS, now we are about to be outdamaged for initial hit once these weapons get perfected.


We were once looked at as the damage dealers and had no other redeaming qualities other than that but now that has been taken away. Im wondering what the hell we are good for, and what they are getting at making our role. Are they going to make us a very versatile soldier in the long run by fixing the HAR and maybe making the LP work right for us next and giving us some defenses? Or did they just do another oversight, while fixing some things, still leaving us in the cold?


Again, I dont know if it works like krait tissue where you could use it in a FT or what, I just know I saw a pistoleer almost match my initial hit and I asked him what he had and he said its geonosian.



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Darigon
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:18 pm
#2

aye, im a bit disheartened by these awesome new weapons as well. particuarly that new acid rifle. the devs really could have thrown us a bone by making that a commando weapon. however theres no use crying over spilled milk i guess. i still love playing the commando profession, however ive put off mastering it (im currently 4,4,4,4 atm but dont have enough APP exp for master) and instead ive been having alot of fun leveling up my TKA skills. its good that we're getting the HAR mods fixed and our Titles straightened out, however i still think we've got some dark days ahead of us.



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SasKarna
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:45 pm
#3

this is why you need to join hellshot and i on TC and tell the devs personally what you hate. we are testing things as they come up. soon i will make master WS and AS. and we will try everything they throw at us in its best form. but without voices there, its not really achieving much.
garvin
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:26 pm
#4

Can someone do us all a favor next tine your at the Geon Lab...Check on the resists of the Crazed Geon's and other's there and let us know what the Heat, Blast & Acid resits are exactly (I keep forgetting to check)...


The reason I ask is because I've noticed that many creature that have high Heat resists also have high Acid resists and I'm wondering if its the same in this cave...often times these creatures with high Heat and Acid have low resists to Blast, BUT our LP doesn't do enough damage without specials to make much of a difference as well...


With this type of data we can strengthen our arguement that we need better weapons (wider selection) that work both indoors and outdoors...I can't see SWG purposefully locking one combat profession type out of an aspect of the game this blatent (or I could...but I'm trying to be positive...)





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Raptor2k1
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:37 pm
#5

Not sure on the other resists, but I think the Geonosians are 65% heat resistant with light armor.



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Ster
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:50 pm
#6

I agree with you on this. However, it seems that there are still many commandos that think otherwise. And that is the reason we are not being taken very seriously and things like this occur. I think Garvin has the right idea with getting the stats looked at, however I have no screen shots to offer right now.



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Hellshot
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:37 pm
#7






garvin wrote:

Can someone do us all a favor next tine your at the Geon Lab...Check on the resists of the Crazed Geon's and other's there and let us know what the Heat, Blast & Acid resits are exactly (I keep forgetting to check)...


The reason I ask is because I've noticed that many creature that have high Heat resists also have high Acid resists and I'm wondering if its the same in this cave...often times these creatures with high Heat and Acid have low resists to Blast, BUT our LP doesn't do enough damage without specials to make much of a difference as well...


With this type of data we can strengthen our arguement that we need better weapons (wider selection) that work both indoors and outdoors...I can't see SWG purposefully locking one combat profession type out of an aspect of the game this blatent (or I could...but I'm trying to be positive...)








Crazed geosians are completely vulnerable to acid and blast damge. I beleive the enhanced kwi and klikniks are at most 5 or 10% resisant to acid and blast (would need to check). The alert droideka are 10% blast resistant.



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ElrohirSoR
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:26 am
#8

The enhanced kwi's are medium armor 5% heat. But the FT isnt that effect cause of of their medium armor and their 30k+ HAM.Klikniks have no resist to acid but they do have medium armor. They do have high energy, kinetic, and really high heat resist. Just about the only thing vulnerable to heat in the new dungeon is the spiders. Everything else our FT just isnt effective on.





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ElrohirSoR
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:27 am
#9

arg type o. Enhanced kwi's are 5% acid.



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TechnoHic
Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:01 am
#10






SasKarna wrote:

this is why you need to join hellshot and i on TC and tell the devs personally what you hate. we are testing things as they come up. soon i will make master WS and AS. and we will try everything they throw at us in its best form. but without voices there, its not really achieving much.







I would love to join you guys there but I just fear I dont have the time at the moment for a second character. I just need one line of pistoleer and half a line of fencer and my template is done, then maybe once I get tired of getting killed in PvP or just going big game hunting I may join you guys for a nice remenisant grind to commando ad to help fight for our cause more but by then I bet they'll have more test ceters where you can use your existing character. I do think however that in order to best represent our profession I will just do a TC one anyway thats nothing more than master commando to get accurate info.


Those caves, I have not been there yet, whats the highest heat resist and HAM? I know I have no problem with ancient grauls when buffed with 70% heat resist. I'll have to go see what I can do.


So, can that stuff be used in FTs, LPs, and HARS? If so, then I will be a happy camper.




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Xenothaulus
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:17 am
#11

The alert droideka also has AR2. If we could use rocket launchers indoors, it wouldn't be quite so bad. (We'd also have to be able to hit them though.) Smacking it with the LP is like trying to tickle it to death.



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shutout
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:47 am
#12

the problem with those geonoshian sonic pulse blasters is that they do stun damage. so unless your composite armor has stun layering, the damage goes right through it. i've seen screen shots of these guns with insane stats, and i believe the devs have removed them from loot drops. it is pretty sickening when pistols start getting into that area of damage though.


i have a 437 max damage launcher pistol, and using last ditch, the highest i've ever hit someone for in pvp was about 1000. i've seen other pistols out there that make my gun look pretty weak. so just imagine what last ditch or stopping shot could do with those. when people can spam those specials once every second, and we're left waiting another 7 seconds for our second try, i wonder who's going to win the fight.





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Blu_Haze
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:38 pm
#13

If you were wondering what the resists were on the baddies in the new geno caves, be sure to check this out:





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