Commando Archive
Thread: Here is a PM I Sent to TH & JustG and TH's Response...
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garvin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:27 pm
#1
So tell me what you think of the letter and how you would respond to TH's Response...
Over and over we Commandos are given the response "wait for the combat balance" to everyone one of our questions...I'm sorry, but enough is enough...with every patch our profession is NERF'd more and we see no fixes...and we still have none of our issues addressed...Every change made isn't even something we asked for...
Either you all want all Commandos to leave the profession or you really need to spend some time getting to know us...look at what's happened as of late...
1) We have one working weapon...We have repeatedly (for over 5 months) tried to convey this...Because of this we've had to rely on this weapon...but as of late this weapon is getting decreased in damage it can do over and over...We understand the complaints about the DoT and offered up many good solutions...all of which were ignored...And a change has happened (the increase to the initial damage done) that is causing more NERF screams against Commandos then before...We tried to warn you...but again, we were ignored...
2) We are the ONLY ranged profession to has ALL of it's specials ONLY usuable within MELEE range...yet we have less Melee defenses then any of the elite ranged professions (which never even have to get in melee range to use their specials) and we are a hybrid profession...this is totally backwards...And with the new bonus for melee attacks to ranged opponents going into effect, who do you really think this is going to effect...those ranged folks with ranged specials...or those ranged folks with melee specials...we are right back to the issue with the 2.5 Melee damage bonus multiplier...
3) Our DoT now does less then half the amount of damage that a Stim B can heal...A Novice Medic can heal the DoT damage faster then we can deliver it...so why is a blanket even needed?
4) Heat Resists are a good thing...I'm glad they work...but it was WAY TO EARLY for them to start working...If we had another weapon to use this would be ok...but our FT is our only working weapon without bugs...again, we tried to tell you this but were ignored...
5) Our grenades incapp and do more damage to the user then the target...Our HAR is beyond fixing and is completely useless (it has the same restrictions as the FT, but no DoT and does less damage thent he FT...plus the mods don't stack properly)...No WS wants to spend the time and resource crafting our Consumable weapons...Where does that leave us...
For a long time I have been begging TH to come to the Commando forum and give us some good news...and everytime he does actually visit all we get is either we are too UBER as is or we will just have to wait for the Combat Balance...we need more information then that...if we are so UBER then why will any PvP player tell you they can beat a Commando 9 out of 10 times...doesn't matter if they are Melee or Ranged...Go ahead and ask them...
TH said he did tests of our profession, but used a Commando vs. Commando test to base his results on...we have plenty of test result information to share...this wasn't a valid test...Commando vs Commando means you are using 2 opponents with the same strengths and weaknesses...But again, we were ignored...
Lately TH and Other Dev's have been visiting various Profession forums...Creature Handler, Smuggler, Droid Engineer, Bounty Hunter, Weaponsmith and Image Designer just to name a few...all the while we Commandos have had a post at the top of our forum with just 4 questions begging for some type of response...yet still we are ignored...
I have been a diehard passionate Commando since a few weeks after the game came out...I'm one of the last Master Commandos left from that time...everyone else is jumping ship like made...look at the numbers and ask yourself why? If you visited our forum you'd see the panic...
For the longest time I've been trying to get the Commando profession fixed...that time is over...the only thing that would fix our profession now is a complete REVAMP...so I'm done asking...I'm begging...please throw us Commandos a bone...we don't even care if you get rid of the FT altogether...just help us be what we dream our profession to be...
Please stop ignoring us...We have plenty of good ideas...We just want to be heard...every warning so far as gone ignored...maybe it's time to start listening to us...
Thank you for your time,
Garvin Lansdowne
Commando
Commando
Garvin,
I disagree with your basic premise - its not a broken profession. Sure it needs to be improved, but its all being addressed in the combat balance, which I have stated over and over again. Besides, its still a fun profession and there are lots of players who like playing commandos, including myself, JustG and a lot of other team members.
If you wanted to have postive discussions, I would engage you, but you guys have to be more positive and stop ranting for the sake of ranting if you expect me to engage you in a dialogue.
th
garvin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:31 pm
#2
Things that make you think...
- How many broken trees does a profession require before it's considered Broken?
- How many times do we have to be told "all being addressed in the combat balance"before someone tells us WHAT is in the combat balance?
- How many people have to drop the Commando profession before those who are unhappy with our status out-number those who are enjoying our profession?
La-grange
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:34 pm
#3
**edit**. Go above him. Get someones attention. This profession is as borked as the one I left (carbineer).
For cryin out loud. This profession is about as borked as they come. Place a post on all the forums. All the army. Try smoke signals. Crap. 3/4's of the profession doesn't work at all and its fine?? Sheesh.
For cryin out loud. This profession is about as borked as they come. Place a post on all the forums. All the army. Try smoke signals. Crap. 3/4's of the profession doesn't work at all and its fine?? Sheesh.
La-grange
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:39 pm
#4
And he obviously doesn't play this profession. I intended on making master but after dealing with the HAR that doesn't hit. Dodging (part tk am I) my own shrapnel. And not even connecting with the heavy acid stream launcher or the particle beam cannon (I think thats what they were called, got them off of jabbas themepark). I decided to just go with the flame thrower and deal with the long recycle times from specialing with that item.
Wow. Where do I go to put in an evaluation on TH's performance.
Wow. Where do I go to put in an evaluation on TH's performance.
thepunisher286
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:47 pm
#5
They flexed thier ignorance quite well indeed....
I'm ready to jump ship as well..
I dont pay money to listen to some a-hole tel me that my sh1t is fine when commando as a whole is a laughable proffesion and to say otherwise is in need for a serious smack upside the head *shakes fist*. Nothing in commando makes sense, form the defenses and specials, to the weapons and the titles. TH and JustG would never post reasons they feel why it's not broken because they know it is and they dont have anything to back up a lie so blatant even the Iraqi information minister would think it's stupid.
They take us for fools but whos gona be the real fool when people start hiting the cancel acount button for the worste customer service...
Im not gona post positive because theres nothing positive to post about.
Im not ranting for the sake of ranting. Im ranting because im paying them to play a broken product and any issues addressed doesnt get fixed because they think otherwise of our thoughts. These f'ing devs goto stop treating this game like people dont pay for it to play monthly. If you have a bakery and people are saying your bread is overdone, then fix it! Customers can very well easily go to another bakery... dont try to spoon people crap like the bread is just fine and its how it should be.
Over and over again, they prove that we arent cared for, only our money. The instant World of WC comes out, theres going to be a mass of people canceling their accounts because this game, right down to most ways you look at it, it realy sucks. I play for the love of starwars, I love to role play in the sw universe and its enjoyable, but to have to deal with ignorance on a daily bases is too much and quite frankly, once this combat revamp flops, so will the # of people who play.
Message Edited by thepunisher286 on 02-19-2004 07:48 PM
thepunisher286
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:49 pm
#6
stupid 1 star fiery came along... bet you it was a TKM or CM lol
Ciirybeccaskyr
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:52 pm
#7
There is a very good reason that i have NEVER been a commando. It is the same reason that i have never given Pike a spin but have tried EVERY other combat prof at least once all the way to master and several 2 times.
The shear ignorance of anyone that continues to state how "overpowered" commando is astounds me anyone that know anything about the game that is.
In truth i know how they are thinking that it is so powerfull. They leave off the timestamp option and dont consider DPS which is all that really matters and just go for straight hit numbers. They look at 10k-15 hit and say wow thats 3 times as much as anything else i see but they forget that with my Rifle i can hit 3k 5 times in that same period and have ap3 or with my BH/carbineer same thing with AP2 or any other prof around (aside from pike they have it worse than you) and dont even bother to look at the percentage hit.
The truth is alot of stuff is resistant to heat in this game ( my CHs PVP pets are all 100% to it) and that is the only option you get 
I wish yall would get fixed cause i sure would like to try this side of the game out but am not about to waste the SP for it in its currant state
OnlyMaestro
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:58 pm
#8
Thanks TH.
That response to Garvin's was rude at Best. Garvin has spent months gathering info, and you insult him by saying his was justa rant?
He's right though.
The Flamethrower works. One out of...six is good.
Right?
Message Edited by OnlyMaestro on 02-19-2004 11:45 PM
maddogs
Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:29 pm
#9
im shocked to the max he sed were not broke he dont even know what the heck is up
well this explanes alot and tells one thing
that all are work here is in vain like mastersyn sed
xxNaftxx
Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:31 pm
#10
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Thanks TH.
That response to our BEST was rude. Garvin has spent months gathering info, and you insult him by his statement of facts being a rant?
He's right.
The Flamethrower works.
were you being sarcastic?
OnlyMaestro
Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:43 pm
#11
xxNaftxx wrote:
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Thanks TH.
That response to our BEST was rude. Garvin has spent months gathering info, and you insult him by his statement of facts being a rant?
He's right.
The Flamethrower works.
were you being sarcastic?
Here's a spoon.
BillFromElectronics
Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:45 pm
#12
I havn't been a commando all that long, but long enough to know whats wrong with it. I'm begining to think I made a mistake.
What TH just said really pissed me off. Anyone even semi aware ofcommando's knowswe're broken. For example my friend go the game a few weeks ago a tried Commando thinking it would be cool. 
He barely got a quater of the way to master and said to me "**edit** is wrong this profession!? Does anything work!?" His words not mine....well mine too actualy. 
*waits for WOW*
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