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Thread: Launcher pistol only hitting for 2 3rds what it should!!!!
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Cyrus_Biddissi
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:00 pm
#1
As you can see by the title, I seem to have come across a slight bug with regards to the launcher pistols damage.
Now I have been a commando twice in the past and remember the LP to be pretty good, has it been nerfed or is this a bug??
Basically I'm a Master Pistoleer/Rogue and decided to do Commando again for the 3rd time (its the flames that do it for me), my immediate thought would be to grind it out using the LP since I'm Master Pistoleer/Rogue.
Anyway there I was shooting stuff using Last Ditch and Fan Shot thinking to myself these NPCs are taking waaay too long to die, I checked out the resists on them, one of them had 5% against blast the othe 40%, funny thing one of my shots according the combat tab hit for around 3500 on the dude with 40% resists, what came from his head was far from 40%...Around 500 came off the top of his head.
I though bugger this, sonic blaster out..took seconds to kill him, I'll go test this on a nest since they have no resists.
I used one of my specials (can't remember which), according to the combat tab it hit for 1215, in actual fact it hit for 729...about 2 3rds (slightly less) !!! I switched to another pistol to make sure things were fine with that, sure enough the combat tab matched what came from the nest, Launcher Pistol definitely bugged methinks!!
I've submitted an ingame ticket, but I thought I'd post here to see if anyone else is experiencing the same problem.
Cya!
Iron-Monkey
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:02 pm
#2
They have armor? Like Light to Medium armor...might explain the descrepency.
Cyrus_Biddissi
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:07 pm
#3
Iron-Monkey wrote:
They have armor? Like Light to Medium armor...might explain the descrepency.
Nests don't have armour.
All the pistols Ihave, except the Republic Blaster have armour piercing none, and they all hit fine, infact some of them aren't as powerful as the Launcher Pistol I have, but are hitting for way more.
Cya!
Iron-Monkey
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:13 pm
#4
My bad, thought you were talking about NPCs. Normally I can attribute most of my damage miscalculations to NPC armor. What's the condition of the LP?
Cyrus_Biddissi wrote:
Iron-Monkey wrote:
They have armor? Like Light to Medium armor...might explain the descrepency.
Nests don't have armour.
All the pistols Ihave, except the Republic Blaster have armour piercing none, and they all hit fine, infact some of them aren't as powerful as the Launcher Pistol I have, but are hitting for way more.
Cya!
Cyrus_Biddissi
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:22 pm
#5
Iron-Monkey wrote:
My bad, thought you were talking about NPCs. Normally I can attribute most of my damage miscalculations to NPC armor. What's the condition of the LP?
The LP is brand new.It's not particularly powerful....254 max unsliced, around 320 with Powerup.
Nests and NPC's there is a definite discrepancy...I was shooting NPCs to begin with, they had Light armour, the LP is armour piercing none, I thought this was something to do with it...but as it turns out with my little 'nest test' it's not!
Cya!
Message Edited by Cyrus_Biddissi on 03-15-2005 09:22 PM
Iron-Monkey
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:24 pm
#6
Sorry, I got nothing then.
Message Edited by Iron-Monkey on 03-15-2005 04:25 PM
Cyrus_Biddissi
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:26 pm
#7
Iron-Monkey wrote:
Sorry, I got nothing then.
Thanks for taking an interest though!!
If anyone else is able to test this please post here, maybe I just have a bugged LP.
Cya!
JoKen_Jash
Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:10 pm
#8
I think nests are borked. I did, quite literally, 22k damage to one with my damage sliced krayted 1200 max flamer and flamesingle1. I did even better with the same flamer and flamesingle2, with like 47k damage.
Imagine if you could do that to a krayt!
inlord
Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:16 pm
#9
he is right i did the same with my 1389Dam flame hit it for 84k bugged for sure
craftr
Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:29 pm
#10
not sure im understanding what youre talking about here....are you saying that the only discrepancy when using the LP was that the dmg stated in the combat logs was difrent then the numbers coming off the top of there head? thats happened to me when grinding with the LP. no idea what caused it, I just wrote it off as lag or server issues and thought nothing else off it. Or are you saying that in actually calculations of damage being done, the numers arent adding up to what they should based on the LP's stats?
ShinigamiDuo
Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:18 pm
#11
I think nests now have blast resistance, because I've noticed this with any blast damage type weapon, LP, 'nades, missiles, on any lair. I was doing better with cryoban grenades on lairs than with C22's with higher damage on lairs, the lair seemed to have 60% or so blast resistance.
Iron-Monkey
Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:32 am
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Cyrus_Biddissi wrote:
What you said! I know about all things which affect what comes off the heads to what is in the combat box, but with the LP compared with any other pistol, there is a HUGE discrepancy!!
Another example, I have an FWG5 with pretty much the same stats as my LP. An NPC with Light armour, around 10k HAM and shall we say 5% resists on all...with the FWG5 they are down in seconds using Last Ditch, with the LP it was taking over a minute in some cases!
Oh and with regards to what somebody said about doing huge damage to nests, this has always been the case if the creatures in the nest have healed it and in some cases if it has no more spawns left in it.
Cya!
Very true. If the lair is empty you can do anywhere from 3-5x times the normal damage.
Have you tried doing an /examine on the Nests? Do nests now have resists or armor? I am just reaching here, but this might also explain why people still do great damage with Flamer but not up to par with the LP.
Cyrus_Biddissi
Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:29 pm
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craftr wrote:
not sure im understanding what youre talking about here....are you saying that the only discrepancy when using the LP was that the dmg stated in the combat logs was difrent then the numbers coming off the top of there head? thats happened to me when grinding with the LP. no idea what caused it, I just wrote it off as lag or server issues and thought nothing else off it. Or are you saying that in actually calculations of damage being done, the numers arent adding up to what they should based on the LP's stats?
What you said! I know about all things which affect what comes off the heads to what is in the combat box, but with the LP compared with any other pistol, there is a HUGE discrepancy!!
Another example, I have an FWG5 with pretty much the same stats as my LP. An NPC with Light armour, around 10k HAM and shall we say 5% resists on all...with the FWG5 they are down in seconds using Last Ditch, with the LP it was taking over a minute in some cases!
Oh and with regards to what somebody said about doing huge damage to nests, this has always been the case if the creatures in the nest have healed it and in some cases if it has no more spawns left in it.
Cya!
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