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Thread: Petition for better HAR

RougeSoldier
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:19 am
#1

As you all know, the HAR could be a great weapon with just a few fixes. Sccuracy mods (from what I heard) are getting fixed in publish 7. It's a good start but it's not enough.
This petition is to get the devs to fix the speed mods and make the Heavy acid rifle AP2 by publish 7 or publish 8.
If you agree,please sign.

/sign



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SuperTurbo
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:41 am
#2

AP3 nothing less than that.



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Dozer2
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:21 pm
#3

AP3 for sure



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JohboBocal
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:16 pm
#4






RougeSoldier wrote:
As you all know, the HAR could be a great weapon with just a few fixes. Sccuracy mods (from what I heard) are getting fixed in publish 7. It's a good start but it's not enough.
This petition is to get the devs to fix the speed mods and make the Heavy acid rifle AP2 by publish 7 or publish 8.
If you agree,please sign.

/sign






AP3, nothing less.


Please read this post on the subject. JustG sheds a bit of light on the subject.



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=commando&message.id=50029






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RougeSoldier
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:31 am
#5

ok then AP3 it is



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Tepic_Sand
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:36 am
#6

AP3, hell even nyms slug thrower has AP1 yet the HAR still has none......



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Darth3274
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:39 am
#7

Yep AP3 for me too
Skeptic666
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:19 pm
#8

ya ya Im a big newbie what is this AP stuff? armor Peircing? and umm how good is it and we want that on our HAR? hehe I just know that flames burn and I droped the rest cuz im sick of spending 300k for a handfull of weps that hit once in a blue moon heheh.



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Eppyon_MM
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:46 pm
#9

How about a petitions to remove the HAR tree and get somthing better altogether ill /sign that



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Hellshot
Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:56 pm
#10






Skeptic666 wrote:
ya ya Im a big newbie what is this AP stuff? armor Peircing? and umm how good is it and we want that on our HAR? hehe I just know that flames burn and I droped the rest cuz im sick of spending 300k for a handfull of weps that hit once in a blue moon heheh.







Yes armor piercing is AP. The reason AP is such a big deal is that with the Heavy Acid Rifle (HAR) being AP0, its damaged is reduced when it hits an AP1 (light armor) target. AP1 is most mid level mobs and any armor players where. Against an AP2 target, damage is reduced 75%, and against AP3 targets (think High end bosses, like krayt dragons) damage is reduced by 87.5%. If the HAR were AP1, these modifiers would be 0%, -50%, and -75%. If the HAR were AP2, the modifiers would be +25% (you get a damage bonus if your AP value exceeds the targets armor rating),0%, and -50%. If the HAR were AP3, the modifiers would be +37.5%, +25%, 0%. In addition to armor rating, a targets resistance to a damage type is also calculated. For example, lets assume we have an AP2 mob that is 50% acid resistant and we do 1000pts of base damage:


AP0 (current) = 1000*0.5(for acid resist)*0.25(for armor rating)=125pts of damage


AP1 = 1000*0.5*0.5 (1 level of AP/armor difference)=250pts of damage


AP2 = 1000*.5*1(armor/AP are the same) = 500pts of damage


AP3 = 1000*.5*1.25 = 625




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KureJiBaka
Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:48 pm
#11

I think the FT should get a Small DoT Buff, and give the HAR AP3 and a Small DOT. Cause Acid Burns. you see?


Also, consider my topic about Merging the FT and HAR Spec Trees.



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Skeptic666
Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:59 pm
#12

aaaa ok thanks man! ya id elike to se the flame and acid be in the same tree and something new for us why should we be the only ones that have one wep that actualy works? O well hehehe what can we do I have $5.00 that says a dev will just cycle through and delete the commando forums all together hehehe







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RazerWolf
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:22 am
#13

I dunno. We got a couple of AP3 weapons, I'd prefer AP2. Also note that the Rifleman's DXR-6b is AP2 as well, not AP3, that's the T21. Which is also the only non-Commando AP3 weapon.



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