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i have been reading the posts that mention the HAR and it's shortcomings and i have here compiled a list of them.

1. add a DoT (most important IMO) similar (or even the same as) to whatever they decide to change the flamethrower's DoT to.

2. increased dmg. it should have higher dmg than the flamethrower becasue it is slower

3. a slight increase in spd. but should still be slower than the flamethrower

4. armor piercing heavy (cant remeber what it is now but it should be heavy hence the title Heavy Acid Rifle)

5.improved specials. i dont know for sure the specs but i heard that it was likje a 5% increase in dmg. yea that doesn't quite cut it

6. ideal range mods like a rifle has. it is a rifle BTW. (this should be higher on the list but it slipped my mind til now)

these things i think would be an excellentbenefit the commando class as far as a ranged attack that is actually ranged and good at the same time

feel free to add anything else whether it be for or against or a different idea

1) No. Just no - we have one flamethrower already. The two weapons should be seperate, giving each one a different incentive for use.

2) Sure, yeah, I can agree to that, but NOT because it's slower. The speed thing seems to be at least partially a bug, as the speed modifiers have no effect. The HAR should do more damage because it doesn't have a DoT, not because it's slower.

3) Again, no. The flamethrower is slow enough already, we need a blazer type weapon that can fire off medium damage rather quickly (like a beefed up carbine style weapon)

4) No. The specials are too damaging for heavy armor piercing. You're asking for too much. If you want heavy armor piercing, use a Particle Cannon - the tradeoff is you only get 30 shots.

5) The damageis significant enough - it's a only a bit less than the LLC specials are. However, as the LLC is AP1, it's sort of a moot comparison. Yes, though, the HAR could use a bit of a damage buff (bring the damage per second to a little teeney bit more than the flamethrower, since the flamer has its DoT, and Acid is a relatively unprotected damage type anyways).

6) Sure, that would work, but the specials would need to be reworked since they currently have the same range caps as the flamethrower.

Here are my suggestions

1. No dot, because its acid damage, no AR rating either, the damage multipliers are good enough.

2. Increase range of specials significantly giving us a true 'ranged weapon', like any RIFLE

3. Decrease delays some

In short, make it a slightly slower, but higher damage T21 that does acid damage

Forgot my reasoning

We already have a flame thrower, no need for an acid thrower that does the exact same thing with a different form of damage, heat vs acid.

actuly i think it should be more like a high power water gun i no it sounds gay but how the heck can it shoot acid 64 m thats one high high power water gun

1 needs stat efects like dizzy and posin {if i got sprayd with acid /shiver ow i think i wild fill dizzy and it would of sorts posin me rily bad }

2 it needs a attack that can spray out acid so hared it kd multibel targets

3 ham cost needs taken down alot i kill my self using it

4 dam could be uped ya but should rely more on the stat efect it dos like posinits posin should eat right threw armor so there for make ing it atleast ap 2 and its pison do like 2k dam{acid rillyeats fastand hurts bad bleev me u never want ur hand to get acid on it i wach acideat a matel junk about 4in by 4inc to it was gone and it only took max 2 houres i think it was more like 1 thothats some nasty stuf}{the only way i c a water gun doing lots of dam is point plank }

5 give it a shot called mist were it puts out a giant cloud of acid

ya and we do need a rang wepon but i dont c awater gun rily bing a rang wepon

The "HAR" special action should be as fast as the flamethrower,i alsothink it should dissolve armor faster rather then peirce it for pvp, and have a similar dot like the flamethrower giving wounds but to the players action pool instead of thier health but not as quick as the ft.

Rebel for life, Burn Imps Burn

1. so DoT i thought that's what everyone wanted? oh well i dont mind not having iti guess if im the only one that wanted it...

2.k but whatever tha reason it should have higher dmg.

3. i still think it should be slower than flamer beacuse its heavy rifle you shouldnt be able to fir it as fast as a flamer

4. how about AR Medium

5. k i dont mind about specials i dont even plan on using them, im jsut going to geta good speed slice and let it autofire mostly

6. range modslike a rifle still

BTW i dont think it is supposed to be shooting a stream of acid (i think thats what the acidstream launcher) i think it is suposed to shoot acid filled bullets just what i think

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Raptor2k1 wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see the HAR become the Commando's LLC. Just take the extra-long refresh off of specials and you have a viable weapon.

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