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Thread: Brawler skills (unarmed4) take a look please

Scyrak
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:48 am
#1

hi guys ...


well can you explain me why the hell does the commando needs the unarmed4 tree of brawler? .. well there are a lot of commandos out there who are doing TKM+CMD ... but hey ... i hate to grind the unarmed4 tree ... its useless for some people - like me ... humm i REALLY want to be command+squad leader ... but cant get to master cause of that stupid unarmed4 tree ;( i just wondered if you are sick of that tree too ... if yes ... tell me what you would do with those 29 (!!!) points - i am really interrested what template you would do... we could also try to make a /sign in thread and mail or send this to a dev ... perhaps we can get rid of that skilltree - would be great (for me hihi and perhaps for some other commandos aswell)


looking forward to get some answers 8)



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aeuralis
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:06 am
#2

Currently the unarmed prereq has no meaning.


BUT after the CURB, it will have a meaning and a purpose. I wish i could tell you more but NDA.



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Scyrak
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:09 am
#3

but that doesn't change my mind .. i want to be commando+squad leader and cant do it cause of the unarmed4 tree ;( ... well ... ok lets see what the CURB brings ..



Scyrak' Darkwave

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Ryubushi
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:31 am
#4

Well, it's partly a skillpoint sink to keep us from being "too powerful."


Yeah, I know, I laughed at that, too.


But, it also fits in with the background for a commando; soldiers have to undergo basic hand to hand combat training.






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Tuscanspeed
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:42 am
#5

i have no NDA so i'll state what i think it is:

blaster fists!



mmmm blaster knuckles....



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Maxanto
Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:24 am
#6






Scyrak wrote:

but that doesn't change my mind .. i want to be commando+squad leader and cant do it cause of the unarmed4 tree ;( ... well ... ok lets see what the CURB brings ..







I understand you lack of desire to grind through unarmed 4, but the devs did not seem to mind as they did not ask you your personal opinion. This is how commando has ALWAYS been. Some people have been mastered in it for over a year. You asked why and here was your answer:


"Currently the unarmed prereq has no meaning. BUT after the CURB, it will have a meaning and a purpose. I wish i could tell you more but NDA. "


If that doesn't change your mind then move on and find some other "uber" template so you can "pwn". Personally I love unarmed and hyaving the ability to WC and Int is worth the 29 points IMHO. Like I tell everyone if you don't like it don't play it. There are over 30 other professions, pick one that will cause you to whine less please =)


Yea ok a little flame never hurt anyone....




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garvin
Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:35 am
#7






Ryubushi wrote:

Well, it's partly a skillpoint sink to keep us from being "too powerful."


Yeah, I know, I laughed at that, too.


But, it also fits in with the background for a commando; soldiers have to undergo basic hand to hand combat training.






The way it was always "explained" to me was pretty much just that (background story and skill point sink)...it also made us a "hybrid" profession to which the Devs justified the amount of damage we are capable of (obviously not taking into account DPS)...


As was stated...CU changes will take into account all of our Pre-Reqs and make them more useful to us...Marksman and our Unarmed pre-req will become much more useful via the CU...and if we don't like it post-CU, then we can push to adjust our pre-reqs, but pushing before the CU won't likley be considered as it would impact the Dev plans for us.

Message Edited by garvin on 02-21-2005 10:35 AM



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Maxanto
Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:41 am
#8






garvin wrote:






Ryubushi wrote:

Well, it's partly a skillpoint sink to keep us from being "too powerful."


Yeah, I know, I laughed at that, too.


But, it also fits in with the background for a commando; soldiers have to undergo basic hand to hand combat training.






The way it was always "explained" to me was pretty much just that (background story and skill point sink)...it also made us a "hybrid" profession to which the Devs justified the amount of damage we are capable of (obviously not taking into account DPS)...


As was stated...CU changes will take into account all of our Pre-Reqs and make them more useful to us...Marksman and our Unarmed pre-req will become much more useful via the CU...and if we don't like it post-CU, then we can push to adjust our pre-reqs, but pushing before the CU won't likley be considered as it would impact the Dev plans for us.


Message Edited by garvin on 02-21-2005 10:35 AM





Sheeesh gavin always showing me down.... but read that and let it soak in. I couldn't have said it better myself. /bow2



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thegrayghost
Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:49 pm
#9

Maybe it's to keep Commandos on a leash. Maybe it's from the philosophy that soldiers are suppose to have a remedial understanding of hand to hand. Why do BH's have to have scout when they only use seeker droids? Maybe that philiosophy also or trying to keep the BH on a leash also.







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Reydon
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:44 pm
#10

"commando+squad leader"


You cant get Master Commando and SL? Something must have changed, because I did it a long time ago.



As for unarmed. In a way, it is to turn people down from commando so some people dont want to do it. Commando's are strong and fun warriors. If you want to be a commando, you need to want it enough to do anything. Another reason is because Commando's are Soldiers. Soldiers go into hand-to-hand on a minor level. As another, Commando's are powerful, and there must be limits of their power. Skill points do that.




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Stupmster
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:01 pm
#11






Reydon wrote:

You cant get Master Commando and SL? Something must have changed, because I did it a long time ago.






i believe he's talking about master commando/master SL, which is indeed impossible....



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Scyrak
Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:47 am
#12








Maxanto wrote:


I understand you lack of desire to grind through unarmed 4, but the devs did not seem to mind as they did not ask you your personal opinion. This is how commando has ALWAYS been. Some people have been mastered in it for over a year. You asked why and here was your answer:


"Currently the unarmed prereq has no meaning. BUT after the CURB, it will have a meaning and a purpose. I wish i could tell you more but NDA. "


If that doesn't change your mind then move on and find some other "uber" template so you can "pwn". Personally I love unarmed and hyaving the ability to WC and Int is worth the 29 points IMHO. Like I tell everyone if you don't like it don't play it. There are over 30 other professions, pick one that will cause you to whine less please =)


Yea ok a little flame never hurt anyone....






first of all ... i am not grinding commando .. i am commando for about 8 months now



and if i want to do a "uber" template to "pwn" other people i wouldn't choose the commando (like i said CMD for about 8 months) -i would go for a defstacker temp. or rifleman+cm or at least jedi (pffft)





Scyrak' Darkwave

Yoda is hiding in a tree at Dathomir giving away free silvershining lightsabers to imperial cl15 Wookiees!
thegrayghost
Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:26 pm
#13

Everyone complains about grind those 4 boxes. Here's it a easy way to do it. Get a VK and have it sliced to 1.5 or 1.7 SPD. get a complete buff and group up with someone. Go to the pirate cave on Lok and work your way to the right. You don't need armor you just need the VK. You're hits won't be hard cause you're not certified for it but it'll hit 10 times faster then no VK. Easiest way to grind.







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