Commando Archive

I wandered over to these boards because I saw a commando complaining about being "ignored"on the dev tracker. I figured he must be in the minority given the recent incredible commando buffs, but instead the first thing I see is "petition for apology from Q... yada yada".

You people do realize the current TC patch is basically one giant Commando love-fest, right? Every single one of your weapons is getting majorly buffed, and the entire grenade concept was reworked. How the hell can you possibly think you're being ignored? I mean, DEs and BEs I can understand, but Commando has to be among the LEAST ignored classes in the entire game (at least as far as the last 2 weeks are concerned).

in case you were too tarded to see it the first time, you can see the notes for yourself here:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=TestCenter&message.id=8865#M8865

Long story short: **edit** are you all complaining about?

the problem isnt that commandos are being ignored -- its that the COMMANDOS are being ignored, meaning US. They're dabbling in fixes, but their dabbling isnt fixing the problems that WE EXPERIENCE. They're blindly poking the balance stick around at the dead horse trying to revive it.

You should read before you post:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=395064&highlight=#M395064

No love for the commandos.

TC is not Live and as a matter of fact may never actually make it Live as it stands and as they try to Balance everything. July 26........2 months and a Class that still cannot out-fight an enraged durni. No info from the Devs as to when, if ever, this supposed 'Love Fest' is going to take place. No info or statement from Q, Holo, Santa or the fraggin Easter Bunny about anything relevent to this broken down desicated husk of a class in quite a while while we watch the T21 get Balanced 3 times in 3 days.

I sir, am beyond angry and rapidly approaching ballistic.....not that it matters as I am probably not AP either.

Shuf all that tells us is what we already know: Test Center stuff is often borked.

If it was in the patch notes, it means they intend to make it work - whether or not its currently functioning on TC doesn't really matter. I think most BEs and DEs would be ecstatic to get their names in the patch notes, even if it didn't work right on the first go.

Darth_Nui your point about the T-21 is a good one - most of this weapon-changestuff could be slid in with a daily update I'll bet. Maybe once things ARE working right (as Shuf's link proves that they're not) they will slide your weapon changes into a patch - obviously you wouldn't want them now since their busted.

Regardless, you're hardly being ignored and it certainly doesn't warrant the amount of frothing that goes on here.

I agree that we're not being ignored, and in fact somethings are being addressed. However they are not being addressed well. First there seems to be some sort of disconnect between what we're hearing from Holo and what we're getting from Q. Holo says "massive damage increases, and more love", Q says "everything is working as intended, what are there still problems?". There is this jekyl and Hyde face of the devs that keeps giving us conflicted results.

DE's are getting plenty of responses from the Devs:

Droid Permadeath

Data module nerfing

Probe droid nerfing

Droid module breakage

They've also gotten a list saying "Lots and lots of combat droids going in".

Should they then just **edit**? I don't think so. Similarly what is on TC right now does not address the problem. So what you are saying is "This doesn't matter, they are addressing you". Well if we don't complain about it the devs are gonna think that the TC changes are sufficient and that is where we will be left. I don't know about you but I'm not enjoying using a full stack of grenades to kill a blue mob. I also don't enjoy my flamer and HAR being basically useless and using the launcher pistol for everything.

I also think that there are some major theme issues still to be addressed such as AR on the commando weapons.

No we should continue to be vocal and press for the changes necessary to make this a fun and playable profession.

I'm still pissed cause I've been a commando for a month and non of are weapons work well enough to actually play. The launcher pistol but thats it. We are getting attentiong because we are actually legitimately broken. you might argue well now probots suck and they nerfed DE and things aren't what they're suppose to be. well that is not good enough, but commandos are no good. for commandos it's not a balancing issue its an issue of fixing the goddamn class.

Legit response Shuf.

TheTC changes seem pretty **edit** sufficient to me - they also address just about every complaint you make in your response (flamer, except the lack of AR changes) - but then I don't playa commando in-game, so what works on paper may not work in reality.

Doesn't change my opinion that most of you are justwhining "I want it now!!"when you know full well you're going to get it in a week or two - but it's possiblethere are still outstanding issues not resolved by uber weapons and grenade fixes.So I digress: I've never known mmo players to be either reasonable or patient when it comes to their class (who can blame them?) so you may as well go on kevetching.

Legit response Shuf.

TheTC changes seem pretty **edit** sufficient to me - they also address just about every complaint you make in your response (flamer, HAR, gernades - all except the lack of AR changes) - but then I don't playa commando in-game, so what works on paper may not work in reality.

Doesn't change my opinion that most of you are justwhining "I want it now!!"when you know full well you're going to get it in a week or two - but it's possiblethere are still outstanding issues not resolved by uber weapons and grenade fixes.So I digress: I've never known mmo players to be either reasonable or patient when it comes to their class (who can blame them?) so you may as well go on kevetching.

Rofl,

Love those edit features. Anyhow I disagree. Our DPS is still extremely low for our status. We can't one shot much like riflemen can. Our "Heavy Support Weapons" aren't. Just FYI but with the exception of the launcher pistol we are starting completely over. No other class with the exception of maybe CM has that issue. For that to be the case you'd think the benefits would outweigh the disadvantages.

Personally I think that there are so many areas of combat in the game that are messed up that it would take several pages to fill them. Unless you take the premise that we are supposed to die alot in which case I don't think the game would be much fun for me.

I've chosen to play commando. By any standard my class is severely gimped in comparison to the other elite/hybrid classes. I will continue to complain and be vocal until my class is at least brought into line with the other classes. This is why we are mad, this is why we should continue to stay mad. I don't think that DEs, BEs, Chefs, Rangers, etc. should be any less mad than us. Until the profession is truly "fixed" then we should stay mad.

if you dont play commando then you have no idea what were putting up with.... that test center crap does nothing for us that are live does it.. were ticked because were not getting answers to our legitimate complaints just a bunch of bs.

I don't think of us as whining. There are a few 'whiners' that demand everything right away, but most of us are just trying to get info about how we are being 'fixed' and when. We are yet to receive any form of an ETA or any sign of these changes being implemented. It gets a bit depressing after a while constantly hearing 'We're working on it' and even worse 'This is working as intended' when there are tons of known issues. Also, for a class this broken, I'd say that we are not getting enough communication. I know that they are hard pressed for their time, but what's the point of creating a thread and not answering any of our questions that arise? I guess we can only trust them and give it time...

First off, what you are doing with this post is trolling. There's no other description for coming to a board and saying "why are you babies crying....we're more broke than you" when you aren't in the profession. You are a commando troll. Nuff said on that count.

Next, please actually look thru the posts on this board before posting. We have 2 commandos on test ATM. One's a master weaponsmith, the other an adv lvl commando. They've posted testing and numbers for all the new super buffed weapons and guess what? DPS is still behind carbineer, pistoleer, rifleman, etc. Not even close. We also have a stardard wep that's got no AR (Launcher pistol) in a profession that should have AR. That'd be like a DE stuck lvling by onlycrafting droid batteries. DE was uber, then nerfed. Commando has never been viable, let alone nerfable. BE...well....they've always sucked just like us.

So....before you flame a profession take some time to read the posts and consider the profession. If you are a DE, I've got no sympathy. You're time is coming again....unless you are too much of a tard to read the profession notes (your quote). If you are a BE....my sympathies. You made some uber pets in the day, and had some very sneaky uber lvling tactics removed, but you've always been pretty lame. Instead of flaming sympathize and learn with fellow gimped brothers/sisters.

TC a love fest for commandos....wake up and smell the lubricating oil.