Commando Archive

Thread: Troubling news....COMMANDOS BEWARE!!!

RankorCity
Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:38 pm
#1

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=76677#M76677


According to Blixtev, its possible that current/legacy Flamethrowers may have "bad data" in regards to fixes made to AoE on TC. Given their past history regarding "fixes" to Commando weapons (i.e. the Proton Rifle), current/legacy weapons dont get fixed, only newly looted / crafted ones. This being the case, many a Commando were basically shafted when their pre19 Proton Rifles were still usable, but still had an AoE even thou there NOT supposed to have AoE.


If they make a fix whereby only newly crafted Flamethrowers will deal the correct AoE damage, many of us have the potential to be out millions of credits if we want to be able to take advantage of this fix. We will be forced to buy/craft NEW flamethrowers.


THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.


I realizeI am jumping the gun, but their past history indicates they wont do legacy fixes for us.Given that the flamer isTHEgun of choice of the Commando,we ALL stand to lose big on this if they dont fix AoE on current/legacy flamers....


Until they announce exactly HOW this will be fixed (i.e. newly crafted only,or also including legacy flamers)dont buy or craft ANY flamers...



Anxiously awaiting the Firefly MMO
Discuss it at www.firefly-mmo.com
Reydon
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:16 pm
#2

This is f**king pathetic sony... I spent my fortune on my flamer, and it wont be fixed? omg...




Cyrus' Ludarin
Proud Mercenary Commando of 731 Days of 12/21/05
"SoE has murdered my hopes for a good game and a fun time by destroying what defines a commando. How about you?."
dehumaniz
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:19 pm
#3

Well thats not been announced yet. So lets keep our fingers crossed and not get upset till we are told that that is indeed the problem, and that we will need new flamers.
RankorCity
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:26 pm
#4






Reydon wrote:

This is f**king pathetic sony... I spent my fortune on my flamer, and it wont be fixed? omg...






We dont know yet. No announcement about it has been made. And probably an announcement WONT be made, given that we are often left out in the dark on everything. Or filed under "Misc"


If past history is indicative of their actions, then yes, we will need new flamers.


Personally, if it comes down to instituting a fix that affects only new flamers, or delaying the fix until legacy flamers can be included as well, then they need to delay it.





Anxiously awaiting the Firefly MMO
Discuss it at www.firefly-mmo.com
Reydon
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:30 pm
#5

If they dont fix old flamers, I am 90% sure I am quitting




Cyrus' Ludarin
Proud Mercenary Commando of 731 Days of 12/21/05
"SoE has murdered my hopes for a good game and a fun time by destroying what defines a commando. How about you?."
Gamlin_Shaw
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:36 pm
#6

Damn, just saw that. I can't get a new flamethrower for testing right now because I just went on vacation... anyone can check this out? Also please check other weapons because hopefully not only flamethrowers got "fixed" as all the weapons were borked.
Latenighter
Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:06 pm
#7

Well, it's an intriguing and beguiling message like most SOE communications. Maybe the fix on the data will allow for PuP of the Flamers because there is "bad data" that has caused it not to be correct in the past.

I'm wary, but not willing to jump the gun on this. It's fair to say the expectation is that all FT's will work properly (and be PuPable) for us to consider the issue closed. So let's test it as best we can and see if the extra data will help SOE out. And see if the newly crafted FT can take a PuP. Give them info to fix, since this has a little bit of their attention.

I find a lot of humor in the request consistently being for us to test it ourselves however. LOL. Can't SOE test it without our help? It sure strikes me as being within the scope of their Quality Control / Quality Assurance process. Ok....I did it. I managed to say that with a straight face! LOLOLOL! QC/QA process at SOE! I kill myself! (at least with the old proton grenades)



RIEN - Master Commando
"We are the guys skilled with all ranged weapons. They should let us act like it"
Raptor2k1
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:40 pm
#8

I wont loose any sleep if they don't fix legacy FT's (and with what I've experienced, I'll be surprised if they do), but it's going to be a REAL pain trying to find one that's non-legacy, since there's no way of knowing. The least they can do is flag one or the other in some way so we know it's bugged.



Kyeran Halkyon

Master Gunfighter and Demolitionist of the Old Republic Navy
SWG Commando Forum


StarNick
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:35 pm
#9

Ok I see the community saw this before I did (saw it on the Corr forums before hopping onto TC). I was reaaaaally worried when Blix said "created a Flamethrower then tested". Luckily, I was able to generate a new flamer...and the same AoE brokenness applied.

The New flamer and my old flamer still had broken AoE, so whatever the case (suppousedly AoE is working internally) it may not have even gotten on TC for all we know...

Cross your fingers, I also brought this up in my findings on AoE testing on TC...this would be unacceptable if we gotta buy all new weapons.



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

Blixtev
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:43 pm
#10


The data on all of the Flame Throwerson Bloodfin is good. I Aoe'd a field of greys and one hit killed about 25 of them in one shot,then watched a QA Lead blow up a field of NPCs in one shot on a different TestCenter. I will keep watching for reports of them not hitting, but it would be great if someone on one of the test centers could report the exact condition their flamethrower didnt work in. Ie, charactername, flamethrower stats, serial number, elemetal damage amount, how far away the mobs were, how close they were standing, what was their con, etc.



Thanks!


Lead Designer
Star Wars Galaxies

StarNick
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:54 pm
#11

Character Name on TC Prime: Stern Synex
Type of Mobs: Grey Con
Distance: 0-40 meters (overall, varying distances from max range to as close as the cone could aggro other mobs, I tried to get them as close together as possible)

Weapons:

Flamethrower 1
Condition: 874/880
Creator: Mich'ael
Serial #: (mq3in5dd)
Elementa: 93

Lightning Beam Cannon 1
Condition: 881/881
Creator: Mich'ael
Serial #: (282r25ht)
Elemental: 148

Both are Pre-Patch 20, both give the "1 energy damage and xx heat damage" in splash

Message Edited by StarNick on 07-14-2005 08:54 PM



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

Gamlin_Shaw
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:32 pm
#12


Woot, the devs are actually workin on it, awesome stuff, hope this gets fixed and in the next publish... we wont suck as much anymore...
Ragnaat
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:57 pm
#13

running around TC prime now.. next stom tusken village in SW tat where those numbers i posted this morning came from



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