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Thread: What the point to Commando anymore ?

StabMastah
Wed May 04, 2005 5:16 pm
#1
Commando used to be the " big hunt " guy. The guy that you NEEDED to have in a Krayt hunting group. Or any serious hunting group for that matter. Commando was also a serious force in PVP.


I have tried several Commando combination templates during the Respec, and I just have to ask, whats the point ?


Commando is outclassed in EVERY way to Rifleman or Carbineer. Even at Master Commando, the ranged speed modifier is horribly low. Also Commando in the CU does not even have ONE special to call its own.


The weapons are also not as awe inspiring as they used to be. Theres not a Flamethrower or Rocket launcher in the game that can touch a good T21 with Rifleman specials. What passes as " Burn damage " from the Flamethrower is also too low in my opinion.


I thought the CU would bring Commando back into the forefront of ranged combat. Sadly, Im not seeing that. I can't think of ONE redeeming quality in Commando at all. Please tell me, am I missing something here ??
PyscoJuggalo
Wed May 04, 2005 5:20 pm
#2

OK "mr Discouraged", I'll spill the beans......



What's going to happen when they fix our AOE damageand we knock off that Last Ditch shot at a crowd of Reb scum?



I do agree though, commando needs some better damaging weapons.......



-BTW, the T-21 sucks now, the Advanced Laser Rifle is the elite Rifleman weapon.........





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StabMastah
Wed May 04, 2005 5:26 pm
#3

" -BTW, the T-21 sucks now, the Advanced Laser Rifle is the elite Rifleman weapon......... "


My T21 is made from Krayt tissues and has a DPS of 500, unsliced. I wouldnt say that " sucks ". I don't see many Laser Rifles that beat that.

PyscoJuggalo
Wed May 04, 2005 5:34 pm
#4

If they had Krayt Tissue they would



My T-21 was better then my Lasers before the CU, after the CU my Lasers were better.





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CM's are like nukes. You have them just incase you need them, but as soon as you start using yours the other guys start using theirs and everything goes to hell-PyschoticChipmunk -The First line of the Riflenomican.
Rathask
Wed May 04, 2005 6:37 pm
#5
I'm not even a rifleman and I'm getting 420 or so DPS from my Advanced Laser Rifle. It's what I use on targets further away than 40m (LBC for 26-40, PFT for 0-25) until they get the proton rifle or some other powerful and master-level weapon with a 64m range in-game.



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Raptor2k1
Wed May 04, 2005 10:09 pm
#6
The T-21 at least sounds beefier though when you fire it.



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Theosar
Thu May 05, 2005 3:35 am
#7

Firstly I dont think we can compare any career to what they used to be, and Commandos are still needed..


Ive done alot of testing with various career combinations and find that Commando isvery nice, just need to test what attack works best for you..


The specials from BH gives the Commando FT massive damage..


But you need to get new weapons.. few weapons from before the CU are really good.. and for PvP that is very important.. just like our grenades from before the CU their are bugged..



I now use a Plasma FT that does a modifed damage per sec of about 550. Which I think is very nice.. I have fun playing Commando now..


But buy new after CU made weapons.. or the damage is really bad.






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trot420
Thu May 05, 2005 3:36 am
#8

I got MCommando a bout 3 days before CU hit. I keep respecing and I keep keeping it. Went MBH once to check for jedi missions, but back to Commando.


I think it's down to personal preferances with weapons. Do you like to stand at melee range and burn things? Do you like to knockdown targets from 64m with a rocket? Maybe you like Lightning but dont want MBH/or scout reqs?


However if you prefer pistols and carbs commando isnt gonna do anything for that really. Much smaller bonuses to the general weapon skills.


Im toying with Commando/ Rifle - Carb - or a Pistol/Smugller mix.


I went into the CU with a FT and I think I'll come out with one too. Grenades be damned! =)


And yah last ditch is a nice commando add on skill.





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StabMastah
Thu May 05, 2005 1:46 pm
#9

" If they had Krayt Tissue they would"


Krayt tissues can only be used in Ranged weapons that use power handlers. Im not a crafter, but I think Laser Rifles don't use Power Handlers, so they can't be Krayt enhanced. But im not sure. Anyone know ?


I still don't think Commando has any unique " niche " like it used to. I don't see a point to it at all since the CU. You will always be outdamaged by ANY other ranged profession. The weapons certainly don't have enough power, and the speed mod even at Master Commando is far too low.


Sure, you can mix and match other professions to get a good special, but shouldn't Commando have atleast one or two unique and high powered Specials of its own ?

StarNick
Thu May 05, 2005 1:49 pm
#10
I think Adv Laser Rifles have power handlers, as they're not a projectile weapon...



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StabMastah
Thu May 05, 2005 2:02 pm
#11
Bah oh well. You can pry my T21 out of my cold dead hands. Nothing says badass like a 7 foot long rifle !


Laser rifle looks and sounds like a cheap watergun. You can have it
Hotrodg
Thu May 05, 2005 2:02 pm
#12
Yes laser rifles use power handlers and can be krayt enhanced.



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ShufIrathe
Thu May 05, 2005 2:05 pm
#13

I pretty much agree with you stabmastah. I've been a commando on my server for a long time and it's very disheartening to me that none of our issues were really addressed and that all combat professions have been "genericized" since the cu. Everything seems to fit a mathematical formula now which means there's almost no variation like there used to be.I like the combat graphics, I'm ok with the icons, but so far I'm not liking the basic idea.
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