Commando Archive

i get outdamaged by rifles and pistols all the time...not to mention pikemen.....

if they arent going to give us any specials, and our weapons are same general DPS as the other profs....

then maybe some generic "ranged damage +5" and increased HW defense.....scattered throughout the different trees?

Imperial Colonel Seriah-EH Karrde
Master Architect, Master Merchant, Master Dancer
Riflewoman, Doctor, Ranger, Squad Leader, Teras Kasi
Black Epsilon Ace, Imperial Inquisition Ace
Royal Naboo Security Forces Ace, Corellian Security Force Ace
Storm Squadron Ace, Smugglers Alliance Ace

Pfft some special loot drop schematic that cost billions just to MAYBE match the damage of my T21 or Adv Laser rifle ??

Why bother.

--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces----Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--
We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!
Pyro Games

To answer the main question, what is the point. Simply this: The guns are the only reason. But guess what, us Commando's stay with it. We love to be Commando's, no matter how outclassed we are. That is why you cant do commando for strength, money, or power. You do it because you love to do it. That is it. True Commando's are commandos because they love to burn their enemies, love to blow them up, love to cover them in acid, or shock them to death. I have been a Master Commando a long time, and I can honestly say, if I wasn't a commando, even though I am not stronger then others often, the game would be boring and I would have quit. Commando's truly love their job, because if they didnt, there would be no reason to do it.

As to disapprove a bit of it, commando is now a lot stronger then in the ost recent past. I have yet to lose a duel as a Commando/BH (now for saying that, soon enough, SoE Nerf bat time, and i'll suck again). I KD, I torso, I critical, I KD, I duelist stance, I eye shot, then I spam critical and KD more. Commando is strong mixed well.

"...Nothing says badass like a 7 foot long rifle !"

Something says Badass more then a 7 foot long rifle, and ill tell you:

Thats only becaue of BH. Hell, EVERY special you just listed is a BH special. How can you say Commando has anything to do with your success ? I bet using those same specials and tactics, you would beat everyone even FASTER using the Advanced Scatter Pistol then ANY Commando weapon.

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Grrh my first hate thread was destroyed. So Ill make it again after replying to this.

"Yeah. Look at the CU Combat Professions Template on the main page. Notice Rifleman is the " nuking " profession. Well hell, if a Commando " Heavy Weapons Guy " is not a " nuker ", what the hell is he ??

I feel like a sellout, but Commando is unplayable in its current state. And totally unsatisfactory. Im sorry to say, but its not going to get THAT much better. I know you guys are holding onto hope that it will, but it won't. I guese Im going MBH / Rifleman or Carbineer like everyone else.

I got kicked out of a group lastnight five times because ALL the stupid weapons have a huge AOE no matter what specials you use. I got my group killed or incapped a bunch of times because of that. My only alternative was to NEVER SHOOT at all. What the hell is the point to grouping or even playing the game if everytime I shoot at something it agros 20 high level mobs and gets everyone killed ??

That was the last straw. Good riddance Commando. You have no role in the game. You are outclassed by EVERY ranged profession. Against any melee stacker you will get your ass beat. Commando, you totally suck."

Now to start...

Commando: A heavy infantry unit, that is bleeding from the eyes due to nerf beatings. The people usually in this category are spirited warriors because they are passionate about being a commando. They dont do it for strength, they do it for the love to do it. Anyone who does not love to be a commando, will not be a commando.

" I know you guys are holding onto hope that it will, but it won't."

You surrender hope. That is a pitiful thing. J.R.R. Tolkien made the point that dispair will always be destroyed by the strength of hope. Odin said "Cattle die, kinsfolk die, one dies themself. I know only one thing that never dies. The renown of the noble dead" You fight for hope, and you fight to be remembered. You fight as a commando for the love to fight as a commando. You dont do it to own the battles. I can not claim commandos are the strongest, because they are not. I can claim commando's are the most passionate, because most true commandos will say that they stay commando, even though they know it isnt as good.

You aggroed 20 high level units? You just suck then. As for the weaponry. We all know commando isnt stand alone. If you are a commando/bh, you use yer scatter in those situations. You need to use all your weapons, or you will be weak. pre-cu, I never disregarded any weapon, not even the HAR. Every weapon has its purpose. Commando requires Tactic. If you are not smart about what to do with your flamer and other guns, you will die.

"That was the last straw. Good riddance Commando. You have no role in the game. You are outclassed by EVERY ranged profession. Against any melee stacker you will get your ass beat. Commando, you totally suck."

I believe I speak the actions of everyone when I do this (Pre-CU tradition of mine)

/flamecone2;

/flamesingle2;

/flamecone1;

/flamesingle1;

/laugh;

/pause 90;

/laugh; (at the charred body)

I have destroyed melee and ranged stackers with commando/bh. We are not weak. If you got killed, and you feel as you do about commando, you simply sucked at it. I am a proud commando. I stay in it because I love it. I would have quit if it wasnt for commando. You have no love for commando, so you will never be a commando. It was said that there are 2 major forces in war. The spirit and the sword. In the long run, the spirit will always triumph over the sword. Melee and ranged stackers are the sword. COMMANDO IS THE SPIRIT. We will win in the end. We are winning, because unlike you others, we are having true fun. We do not get to kill everyone and laugh, we get to light them on fire. We dont shoot people, we ignite them. We dont use blasters, we use rocket launchers, lightning cannons, and flamethrowers. I curse you to a death in the fire of a thousand commando flamethrowers. You suck at Commando, that is why you were beaten. You suck at fighting, which is why you cant learn how to get around aggroing 20 guys. You have no spirit, which is why you are here saying how commando sucks. A commando requires a strong soul (as well as pyromania :smileyhappy You can fight Pistoleers, Carbineers, and Swordsmen all you like. But before you fight a commando, you had better have the spirit to fight. We are Commandos. We are proud of our profession. You stand against a force you can not beat.

"Thats only becaue of BH. Hell, EVERY special you just listed is a BH special. How can you say Commando has anything to do with your success ? I bet using those same specials and tactics, you would beat everyone even FASTER using the Advanced Scatter Pistol then ANY Commando weapon."

To further destroy this...

My flamer is speed 1.72. It does 1012 max. A basic attack does 700 damage. a special with my scatter does 700 damage. My critical hits do 2k damage. To a player, min of 900 damage. I can kill with strength and speed with my flamethrower. The only advantage the Scatter has over the flamer (only reason I have one) is it is single target. Utilize every weapon you have.

I think senseless optimism is bad when dealing with this issue. lets take a look at the commando weapons that are susposed to be our "Specials"

Plasma flame dot on my plasma thrower ticks at 23 damage..that is freaking pathetic. I Have a 1245 damage max 510 DPS plasma thrower, the speed is I donno i never pay attention.

Lightening cannon, around 800 max 450 DPS, ignites and causes a flame dot of 23 tick...woopity do..

rocket launcher, 340 DPS. 650 max, knockdown occurs once every 5-10 attacks. What is the purpose?

Beam cannon, 400 dps, max I donno. Its special affect is damage in a line behind the target to max range... wanna know the damage to the enemys behind the target? 0 damage. fantastic, an in line agro cannon.

Acid launcher, does blind..same weak damage as another weapon. Again, nothing but an agro cannon.

I am level 61 master commando and i had smuggler. I dueled a level 49 commando, he smoked me with no problem. Do I suck? Not because I donno what im doing, but because what I am is wasting points with commando. We have no damage specials inherent in the class, thrus we are not a real class. Commando is just the little accessory to bounty hunter or smuggler or carbaneer. And you are never a commando first now. Foolish pride and BS aside, we are gimped.

What do I prepose?

Plasma thrower- AOE damage the same as target damage, increase the flame DOT to atleast 150 a tick

Lightening cannon- keep the flame dot at around 80, plus add a temporary root to the cannon so you are shocked/stunned in place for 4-5 seconds every hit. Also keep it AOE.

Rocket launcher- Keep the ability to go max range, increase knockdown to every 1-3 shots with knockback every hit.

Acid launcher- Blind, plus an acid dot of around 120 a tick. increase damage

Granades- Dont make them take a year to recycle to another attack, throwing and picking up a gun isnt that hard.

Again, one more time, why do we have to have a melee branch when we get firearm strike with marksman?! Drop this and give us a carbines line so we can have underslung for heavy solo mob damage!

Beam cannon- Actually make it do damage in a line, also give us a special with it so that we can use it to slice like a long lightsaber (Like the clone trooper drop ship HARD beam cannon, it looks cool cutting threw stuff).

An empire of one!