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Thread: /sigh....Garvin?

RankorCity
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:19 am
#1


Any comments?


From Stratics chat....


Brekkee *Sace* What do we have to look forward to in the near future, we're slowly sifting through the JTL content, mastering pilot, what is the next step


TH: First, we will see some new JtL missions and the loot revamp.


TH: Following that, we will be getting into the meat of the Combat Upgrade, but that wont begin in earnest with the public until after the holidays.


TH: Between now and then we are doing prep work for the CU. Be sure to sign up the Combat Upgrade Beta!


This completely contradicts what TH said "Now that Jump to Lightspeed has launched, the Combat Upgrade is our next major milestone in the advancement of the Star Wars Galaxies experience." in his "Whats going on with Combat" thread


Pretty much the ENTIRE stratics chat was devoted to JTL, and the loot revamp (which incidentally, looks to be as worthless as the first Junk dealer revamp


Lied to...AGAIN?

Message Edited by RankorCity on 11-18-2004 11:20 AM



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nerfherder321
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:22 am
#2






RankorCity wrote:


Any comments?


From Stratics chat....


Brekkee *Sace* What do we have to look forward to in the near future, we're slowly sifting through the JTL content, mastering pilot, what is the next step


TH: First, we will see some new JtL missions and the loot revamp.


TH: Following that, we will be getting into the meat of the Combat Upgrade, but that wont begin in earnest with the public until after the holidays.


TH: Between now and then we are doing prep work for the CU. Be sure to sign up the Combat Upgrade Beta!


This completely contradicts what TH said "Now that Jump to Lightspeed has launched, the Combat Upgrade is our next major milestone in the advancement of the Star Wars Galaxies experience." in his "Whats going on with Combat" thread


Pretty much the ENTIRE stratics chat was devoted to JTL, and the loot revamp (which incidentally, looks to be as worthless as the first Junk dealer revamp


Lied to...AGAIN?

Message Edited by RankorCity on 11-18-2004 11:20 AM





rankor no, sadly... umm.. they do have the order whcih is JTL tweaking, Loot & CU, then prof revamps...i think? anyway...i say we should have had profession ships in there but since "space and ground" is sepperated, that cant happen... love the wounds though, and especially how you get "faction"

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Skeptic666
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:33 am
#3

Hi there. YOu might remember me as the Commando you all know and love. If you don't PFFFTT!!!


Hey alot of things are in the works. With out saying to much becuase of the NDA I can truely say we are going to be much better off then we are now.



And in that alone I am happy



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RankorCity
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:39 am
#4






Skeptic666 wrote:

Hi there. YOu might remember me as the Commando you all know and love. If you don't PFFFTT!!!


Hey alot of things are in the works. With out saying to much becuase of the NDA I can truely say we are going to be much better off then we are now.



And in that alone I am happy





Ok...thats all fine and dandy. Its becoming the catchphrase of late...


What I want to know is:


1) HOW?


2) WHEN?





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Skeptic666
Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:42 am
#5

How? well a bunch of programers get together and start typing code. THen they let us test these codes and hopefully they will change the code to better balance every thing out.



The when.


Tee hee only God knows for sure



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aeuralis
Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:02 am
#6

WHEN: About this time NEXT year. And with the MASS bannings on bria, it is not likely that i will see it.



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Skeptic666
Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:59 am
#7

ya Im really upset about bria right now man. This is so so harsh there is almost nothing left there.



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Skeptic666
Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:00 pm
#8

sorry not trying to hijack this thread!



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worpete
Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:16 pm
#9

what happened on bria?



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Novock
Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:30 pm
#10

LOL if you thought the CU would be out before late spring early summer u have been listening to Garvin and the optimist way to long. Look at the past and the current and reality. CU will hit test center mid to later spring and will be in live late spring to early summer. All this stuff about BETA starting in January is just to keep you hanging on until then. Then they will make another worthless post when you are on the fringe of hitting cancel to keep you on for another few months. This is the exact same pattern we have been going through for over a year now. I'm sry having 5 from each proffession be able to look at and talk about the CU documents that we were all suppose to be able to see months ago is not much progress to me. They aren't going to make any public statements, friday features or any other information to us until after the holidays, and at this point I'm not convinced that a new system is going to save us from the Jedi Wars, they should just rename it and get it over with.



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garvin
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:07 pm
#11






RankorCity wrote:


Any comments?


From Stratics chat....


Brekkee *Sace* What do we have to look forward to in the near future, we're slowly sifting through the JTL content, mastering pilot, what is the next step


TH: First, we will see some new JtL missions and the loot revamp.


TH: Following that, we will be getting into the meat of the Combat Upgrade, but that wont begin in earnest with the public until after the holidays.


TH: Between now and then we are doing prep work for the CU. Be sure to sign up the Combat Upgrade Beta!


This completely contradicts what TH said "Now that Jump to Lightspeed has launched, the Combat Upgrade is our next major milestone in the advancement of the Star Wars Galaxies experience." in his "Whats going on with Combat" thread


Pretty much the ENTIRE stratics chat was devoted to JTL, and the loot revamp (which incidentally, looks to be as worthless as the first Junk dealer revamp


Lied to...AGAIN?

Message Edited by RankorCity on 11-18-2004 11:20 AM




Actually, this is almost identical to what TH has said in other places recently...First off, the JTL stuff comes from another team (not the CU team), Rememer? JTL has it's own group that works solely on JTL projects including adding new missions...this group use to have SWG team members who have now been reassigned back to SWG and are focusing on JTL...


As for the loot revamp...TH said in the recent Loot Revamp post that he felt it would be ready to go live before the CU went live...I see this as a good thing as it promotes adding new CU loot into an already working loot system....They are not moving anyone off of the CU team to work on the Loot Revamp, and personally I think a lot of it was completed a longtime ago (they are just returning to the Loot Revamp project to finish it up)...




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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garvin
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:17 pm
#12






Novock wrote:

LOL if you thought the CU would be out before late spring early summer u have been listening to Garvin and the optimist way to long. Look at the past and the current and reality. CU will hit test center mid to later spring and will be in live late spring to early summer. All this stuff about BETA starting in January is just to keep you hanging on until then. Then they will make another worthless post when you are on the fringe of hitting cancel to keep you on for another few months. This is the exact same pattern we have been going through for over a year now. I'm sry having 5 from each proffession be able to look at and talk about the CU documents that we were all suppose to be able to see months ago is not much progress to me. They aren't going to make any public statements, friday features or any other information to us until after the holidays, and at this point I'm not convinced that a new system is going to save us from the Jedi Wars, they should just rename it and get it over with.





First off I can 99% guarentee the CU revamp won't take longer then 6 months...Why can I guarentee that? Well, I can't say...but that would put the CU going live around April or May at the latest...It is VERY possible that it will go live before that, all depends on how fast the testing goes and how things turn out in the Beta...


Let me just put it to you this way...The Devs have a lot of Primary plans...they also have a lot of Secondary plans that they keep including the tag line "If we have time"...that should be the first tip off that they have a specific date in mind that they MUST get this CU out by...Their first priority is to get the fixes in...then comes new content...


I'm not being optimistic when I say this...As soon as the actual Sandbox testing starts, it will all be timed out from there...The plan currently is to have Alpha Sandbox testing go for about 3 weeks, then Beta begin for several weeks to a couple of months (depends on how it goes and how many issues come up) and then comes TC....once it hits TC its less then a week from live pretty much (at least that's been the past track record)...The Sandbox testing could start at anytime now (and I'll let you all know when it does)...Whether the CU takes 6 months or not is dependent on all of the Beta Testers and how well they give valuable feedback to the Devs/Programmers...


There is a Date out there things WILL happen...Do you really think they'd go into this without a Cut Off date? What game producer in their right mind wouldn't give his staff an absolute end date (they do have to get more expansions out as well as cater to other non-combat players)...




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Xix13
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:27 pm
#13

For optimism, consider also JtL. When announced for late Oct/early Nov, I naturally assumed this meant Christmas at best. And it came out late October and in very playable condition. They've hit most of their targets for publishes in the last few months and I don't see why that shouldn't continue.

Only 2 things worry me. 1) The post about the SOE-SWG jobs they're looking to fill: 3 Leads (Yikes!) and, 2) a shift of SOE emphasis to Orcs, Swords and Pointy Hats.

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