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Thread: Why is my view on Commando SO different than the majority of the folks here?

PhantomSnipa
Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:08 pm
#1

try some PVP sometime



Onaeveim Reeco
garvin
Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:17 pm
#2

Template is as Follows


3-4-4-4 Commando

1-0-0-1 Fencer

2-1-1-0 Medic


That template gives you 30 skill pts remaining...where have you invested the rest? In another post (on the Fencer forum) you stated that you are a Master Fencer...or are you working your way to Master Fencer? Just curious...


As for your enjoyment and abilities...glad to hear you enjoy what you can do...but it sounds kind of like a Real Life soldier saying "I'm an unstoppable soldier, nobody can out power me or stop me" and leaving out the fact that they drive a tank...it's the tank that does the damage, not the soldier...it's your buffs, skill mods enhancements, and souped up weapons that makes you feel so powerful...it's on the Profession of Commando that does it...


And that's not saying that we should be as powerful as you are when you buff up...but we could operate a lot better with higher melee defenses and more strategically useful weapons....



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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Ghost_Warrior
Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:56 pm
#3

Accually this was a double post and the reply about the fencer post would have fit great in the ACCUAL thread I wrote it in



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garvin
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:07 pm
#4

Well I would have (and did) replied in your other fuller post if I had seen it...but if you notice I replied on this thread at 12:51 and your other post was made at 12:54...I replied on that post after that...



Garvin Lansdowne
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Ghost_Warrior
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:07 pm
#5






garvin wrote:

Template is as Follows


3-4-4-4 Commando

1-0-0-1 Fencer

2-1-1-0 Medic


That template gives you 30 skill pts remaining...where have you invested the rest? In another post (on the Fencer forum) you stated that you are a Master Fencer...or are you working your way to Master Fencer? Just curious...


As for your enjoyment and abilities...glad to hear you enjoy what you can do...but it sounds kind of like a Real Life soldier saying "I'm an unstoppable soldier, nobody can out power me or stop me" and leaving out the fact that they drive a tank...it's the tank that does the damage, not the soldier...it's your buffs, skill mods enhancements, and souped up weapons that makes you feel so powerful...it's on the Profession of Commando that does it...


And that's not saying that we should be as powerful as you are when you buff up...but we could operate a lot better with higher melee defenses and more strategically useful weapons....





First off you are incredibly argumentative


Secondly there is no tank, so you anlogy holds about as much water as a barrel full of holes. I have worked to aquire the tools avalible in the game. They are avalible to anyone else who wants the, but be forwarned you may have to work for them, SOE will not just put this stuff in your inventory for you...


And yes I pvp quite but by the looks of your post PhantomSnipayou didnt bother to accually read mine before you shot your mouth off.


Not as far as more strategically useful weapons... what more do you want? You have a flamethrower that can do incredible amounts of damage, a Acid Rifle by the same nature, a pistol that shoots flaming crap at people and you can your your marksman pistol specials with it.


I guess I am missing something that you must have a supreme knowledge of, I was unaware that we need even more power than we already do, all professions in the game have their ups and downs if you dont like it get another one to compliment what you do have.



Sure I would like to be even more powerful than I already am but I am pretty damn happy with what I got.


Back to the origonal question what is everyone complaining about?


Not good enough weapons? DOTs dont stack? No launcher pistol specials? We miss too often? We are too slow?



what exactly?



/peace





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garvin
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:18 pm
#6

How is me asking you questions about your template "Arguemenative"? They are valid questions that goes to the basis of your post...you say you are satisfied and happy with the way the Commando profession is, and I ask you about your template as it may have a connection to your satisfaction...yet you rebutt with a rude response...


And my comparison is EXTREMELY valid...Did you not site that you use various buffs/Mods? do these buffs/mods allow you to solo various areas you would not be able to without them? Do they increase your satisfaction with the Commando forum? If you answer yes to any of these questions that consider those BUFFS not something automatically granted by being a Commando...therefore, they are an outside factor...like a Soldier who drives a tank...would that Soldier be as powerful if he was without his tank...i.e. would you do as well in those various places you mentioned without your Buffs/mods/enhanced weapons?


I would go on, but I have a strong feeling no matter what I say you'll rebutt with a rude and uncalled for comment...To you, it doesn't matter if other's disagree with you, you will continue to disrespect them...and therefore deserve no more of a response...





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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Krayvex
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:31 pm
#7

I think your view is a little different because you havn't been a commando that long. The problem most of us have is that there's only one thing we can do. Burn stuff. You havn't been doing it long, so you aren't desperately wishing for a different weapon that works. No one has been saying that part of the class is underpowered. The problem is that, aside from killing ourselves with grenades, there are no other options. No variety. Nothing else works. All the new content has been put in the game with high fire resist. From the special crackdown troops to the stuff in the Geo lab.


What good is a commando against something with 100% fire resist?


Most of us don't want to do more damage per second. We just want to do different types of damage.


btw, none of the hw SEA's work right. They apply against skills that aren't included in calculations.


and isn't the special resistance on armor capped at 80%? How old is your armor?






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StarNick
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:19 pm
#8

A) I agree with the guy just above me on you have NOT been a commando long enough


and B)....


3-4-4-4 Commando

1-0-0-1 Fencer

2-1-1-0 Medic


89% Kinetic 80% elec comp 70% basewith a Stun/Electric Helm


I almost snorted when i saw this....THIS is why you think commando is great...not everyone has that armor..NOR the foods you use that are not mentioned here...try commando solely without mods from fencer and some healing power from your own personal medic and see how it is - with all those EXTERNAL defenses..anyone can be pretty tough...and thats the great thing coupled with commando...save that nearly all other proffessions have those defenses naturally in most cases..


And your take on carbineer...almost every Master carbineers i knew liked the proffession..and almost always beat me (with..ugh crippling shot..) in duels...only thing they hated? some broken specials, and high ham costs...every proffession has flaws similar to this




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StarNick
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:20 pm
#9


Btw..the extra mods..the hvy weapons dont work..so you shouldnt even bother with them especially with decay now


Edit: and if I read the replying posts in the middle..i wouldve seen that garvin already covered what i said..heh..ahh well


Anyways...your rudeness to him is uncalled for....you say you arent a tank...thats...a pathetic denial...after the external defenses you've shown us


Message Edited by StarNick on 03-29-2004 11:23 PM



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StarNick
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:26 pm
#10

well said garvin here and on the other..if this guy ever played as a pure commando...he would be singing a different tune....if i wasnt devoted to the prof and resistant to giving it up..i wouldve been outa here a very long time (its now about 9 months after launch....only a month ago i have FINALLY started up lvling some TKA defenses out of neccisty as even in PvE i fared pretty badly)



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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vonbraat
Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:41 pm
#11

89% kinetic special protection doesnt exist.



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shutout
Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:15 am
#12

i could take you with my pikeman/swordsman. simple as that. i have exceptional armor. have all the food i need. i can have buffs anytime i want. all my stats are migrated to my mind, so when i power boost, its that more effective. commandos aren't hard to take down, and that's the sad part. my commando/tkm does well also, but i find myself relying more on tka moves since they hit more often. and i have a 1.9 speed krayt flamer. i can shoot specials faster than when the previous special finishes.


honestly, people cry nerf about commandos because they don't know how to fight them. they see 1200 damage in pvp, or 15000 damage in pve, and think we're uber. what they fail to realize that that number is before armor is taken into effect. they also don't realize that most commandos don't have the speediest of flamers like i have. so when someone shoots off flamesingle2, they have to wait, and wait, and wait to do anything else. in that amount of time, i've alredy kd'd, dizz'd and almost incapped an opposing commando.



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maddogs
Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:59 am
#13

ok


1 commandos spend 169 skill points to master commando and are not even = to pistoler defence or dps it lower


2 commando takes up brawler and unarmed yet gets no pros from this just cons 16m restriction on all are specials


3 commando takes up master marks men yet get nothing for this not even being abel to target a pasific pool all are specals hit random pools


4 commandos dont even get train negotion and there sapos to be elit solders whats whit that !?!? combat medics get train neg and the solder dont ok!?!?!


5 1 out of 4 skill trees works haf decently


6 if we wish to hit fare ther then 20m with any decent dam we have to ither use a havey wep wich will 45% of the time miss or use a Rl wich still misses 32% of the time and cost us 1k a shot or use over charch shot 2 and ruine are wep


7 the HAR is called havey wep but has no ap


8 we have a pistole thats not any good to us but is a atst/turit killer in the hands of a pistoler ..........


9 the gernades are worth absolutly nothing exept suiced


10 all the rang mods on are weps are messed up expet for the RL



now with all that stated how can you ask us why we think were broke !?!?!



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