Commando Archive
Thread: I'd like the HAR to be like the LLC
After a bit of back and fourth in the BH forum, I think I finally have a decent grasp on the performance of the LLC and I think it'd make a great benchmark for the HAR.
The LLC does a bit less damage than the FT, and has no dot. However, it's AP1, and the cooldown between specials is about 1/2 or 1/3 of what the FT is. There are BHs that didn't notice it had a longer delay with specials compared to regular shots.
Personally, I don't want to see the HAR turn into an acid version of the FT. We already have a high-damage, long delay DOT weapon. What we need is a weapon that fires more quickly, and has AP. Note that the LLC shares all the specials of the HAR and FT, and the unsliced base damage usually ends up in the 700s instead of the 800s. So LS2 can still do 6K damage, and therefore the HAR would as well with AS2. Of course, there would be no DOT, but that's not a bad price to pay for AP1 and a 4 second cooldown between specials.
I think the LLC serves as an excellent benchmark for the HAR. Of course, our weapon would do acid damage instead of the more-desirable lightning damage (composite has a weakness for lightning), so perhaps a small damage advantage for the HAR would be in order.
Comments?
Agreed. Make the HAR comparable to the LLC and I'll finally drop my BH/commando hybrid and go master commando.
Btw, from personal experience, I don't believe there's -any- cooldown period after specials on the LLC. It's just the weapons normal delay. I can spam lightning single II every two seconds on my 2.9 speed LLC with LLC IV.
Yes, this is a much more reasonable request as we really shouldn't have another DOT on top of the very good DOT from the FT.
the HAR needs to be unlike any other weapon in the game saying it should mirror the llc is like saying "i want a LLC gimme gimme"
Frankly, I think they should have made commandoes the rifle hybrids, BHers the pistol hybrids, and squad leaders the carbine hybrids. Rifle, carbine, and pistol elite classes wouldn't be as good, but would be intended to give people access to a decent combat profession if they're already pursuing some other elite profession, e.g. entertainers, rangers, etc.
Sorry, hurricane day off, feel that I have to blather. :-)
-Jeff
Agree!!!
The HAR should be AP1 Faster then the Flame but less damage andmaybe asmall dot..
Mister_Heavy wrote:
I'd like the HAR to be like the LLC
usefull?
hehe I had to say it, I couldn't agree with you more, I think it's a good idea. I do however think the damage should not be any higher than the LLC, I see no reason to raise it just because of the resists on composite.
i think the damage of the HAR should be better then the dam of the LLC ....
reason: WE are the master of the Heavy weapons .. we should get the best heavy weapons ....
just my opinion