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Thread: DEV's are bios to BH's, time to face the music

-NOS-
Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:26 am
#1

In star wars the most attractive profesion is BH (doesnt everyone want to be boba-fet?). Well not us we wanna be able to kick anyones @ss. And as well we should. Well we finally received a weapon, which we can match again the dreaded LLC. Well the dev's aren't happy that we can kick anyones ass at 15m (whereas the BH's can do it from 15-60m). So we're losing our ultra dot, which at least we count on them dying a few seconds after we were lying dead. I am not extremely angry about this because I am trying to make a full conversion to hvy support weaps in pvp (hit expert commando recently So the BH's keep their supper power and we get our best chance at a fight nerfed. This would not bother me so much except that BH's get their LLC, scatter pistol and carbine, all of which they can own with.

-mandalo
grenadeer
expert commando
CH
medic





Mandalo :-: Master Mandalorian

"Hard work nver hurt anyone, but why take the chance?"



taamos2
Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:55 am
#2






-NOS- wrote:
In star wars the most attractive profesion is BH (doesnt everyone want to be boba-fet?). Well not us we wanna be able to kick anyones @ss. And as well we should. Well we finally received a weapon, which we can match again the dreaded LLC. Well the dev's aren't happy that we can kick anyones ass at 15m (whereas the BH's can do it from 15-60m). So we're losing our ultra dot, which at least we count on them dying a few seconds after we were lying dead. I am not extremely angry about this because I am trying to make a full conversion to hvy support weaps in pvp (hit expert commando recently So the BH's keep their supper power and we get our best chance at a fight nerfed. This would not bother me so much except that BH's get their LLC, scatter pistol and carbine, all of which they can own with.

-mandalo
grenadeer
expert commando
CH
medic



LLC specials only work at 15m too. Sorry.
Charnas
Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:24 am
#3

there was no mention of the range on the LLC... sorry


how about spam eyeshot from outside the 16m range.. kk thx drv thru




Charnas Lightbane of Chilastra
Kung Fu Smuggler going Commando.
taamos2
Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:40 am
#4






Charnas wrote:

there was no mention of the range on the LLC... sorry






Yes, I know, thats why I mentioned it. &
taamos2
Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:03 pm
#5

Umm, where did I flame anyone? I just made a statement.

-NOS-
Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:17 pm
#6

uhhh, this is quickly turning into a flamers post. C'mon dude, this is a forum for an online game, lighten up on spelling. It was pretty clear what I mean. here's a few short words for you, "Get off my @ss" Hope the spelling of that last word doesnt offend you in any way.





Mandalo :-: Master Mandalorian

"Hard work nver hurt anyone, but why take the chance?"



PadawanChong
Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:33 pm
#7

I totally disregarded the first mistake when I read it this morning. It's when you responded to the guy as a flamer (even though he never flamed) and questioned his intelligence by saying "sorry [wait, you actually said sry] for suing big words".


People like that need to be taken down a notch.




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-NOS-
Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:25 pm
#8


PadawanChong wrote:

for suing big words.






lol, never tell anyone to check their spelling. You were had won the fight and you blew it when you decided to keep it going.

fyi: thats a miss quote I never said, "sry for using big words"





Mandalo :-: Master Mandalorian

"Hard work nver hurt anyone, but why take the chance?"



xflashback
Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:58 pm
#9

Bounty hunters have there advantages, but disadvatages too, Basically a Master bounty hunter can only be a bounty hunter. Skills points required are huge compared to that of a command that only requires level 4 brawler and master marksmen, thats 3 more full trees a commando gets over the bounty hunter that can be put into other things. BH's are the best pvp, commandos come in 2nd. I dun think the dev'sare bios at all, they just look at the whole picture. MAster BH's are the best fighter cause all there skills are directed at fighting. Commando's skills are also directed at fighting, but also can have other skills directd in other areas, BH's cant. Everyone has there own opinion on what should be what, but the game is made the way it is. If you dun like it, dun play. Or become a bounty hunter and give up CH skills and anything else u might have.




back-lash
Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer
Ailea
- Dark Jedi -
proud to be a SYNner
Veers6969
Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:25 pm
#10

And as well we should. Well we finally received a weapon, which we can match again the dreaded LLC. Well the dev's aren't happy that we can kick anyones ass at 15m (whereas the BH's can do it from 15-60m).


Since you were talking about the flamethrower and LLC it sounded to me like you were referring to them when you said that bhs can do it from 15-60. I think Taamos was just trying to make sure you understood that. To accuse him of flaming for what he said is just kinda ridiculous. Also who said we were losing our "ultra" dot.. I've seen the post it said they were taking the damage down a notch. So this will put it at what 800 per tick?.. I think they have a little room to work with before gimping commandos. Please stop whining about proposed changesbefore they make them. Sorry if this sounds like a flame.

CestusVirium
Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:55 pm
#11

From everything I’ve read, they’re not removing out ‘Ultra Dot’ (and honestly, referring to it as that, in and of itself, is example enough of reasons why we shouldn’t have it), they’re simply making it ‘right’. Last I checked, the problem with bleeds was that despite any resistances, after initial damage, the bleed does it’s full damage. If I shoot something with heat resistance of 50%, it should not only affect the initial shot, but any excess damage they take from it after that.

That being said, they should lower the damage a bit. I’ve hit, and been hit, with those and I think it’s a bit much; fun as hell (on both sides, I laughed my ass off the first time I was hit with an FT for the big damage and watched my self get INCed every minute or so). Baring death, that takes someone out of the game for quite a bit of time.

In my opinion, I don’t think Flame Throwers SHOULD be more accurate. Gouts of flame are not the easiest things to control.

As for the BH – They have bad accuracy problems as well. I have a friend of mine who’s constantly complaining about that (his taking BH was my primary reason for not, and choosing to go a little commando/little pistoleer ). He was complaining about needed a speed slice when he got a damage slice, because he can barely hit with/without the specials, and wanted to be able to fire faster to compensate.

As for the eyeshot, how’s that different from any other class spamming attacks? I can spam ‘BodyShot’ with my launcher pistol just as fast as I please (even without taking into consideration my pistoleer, of which I have novice and one of the accuracy lines, not speed).

I know nothing I say is going to make you change your mind, but we’re NOT one trick pony’s. We have a LOT of stopping power. For that, we need to sacrifice a bit of accuracy, speed, and range…I think they’ve got a fairly good trade off working so far.

Cestus/Joar



Dashiva Stonehammer
TKA/Fencer/Medic
Belce2
Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:28 pm
#12

Also they are thinking of making eye shot a 2 step special with the second step available at master for BH. Part of their combo special plan, to be completely successful it would be necessary to successfully chain the 2 together.


I don't like it when people talk of changes to class A without reference to the other classes proposed changes as well. Such posts are only geared to generate a riot of uninformed posters.

-NOS-
Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:00 am
#13

1st: taamos2, stop flaming
2nd: I never said anything about special on LLC, it is lethal without special. Shame you were not able to extrapilate (sry for big word) that eye shot would be a perfect example, as it was obviously not that hard to do for someone with pvp experience.
3rd: stop flaming





Mandalo :-: Master Mandalorian

"Hard work nver hurt anyone, but why take the chance?"



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