Commando Archive
Thread: Do you really have to have master Brawler and Rifle to be a Commando and why?
The in game skill tree doesn't show that.
Thanks
Tomaric Lost ranger
No and Yes (if you are referring to Rifle in the Marksman tree)
You only need master Unarmed from the brawler tree.
Pre-req's for Novice Commando are:
Master Marksman (all "light" weapon types ie Rifle, Carbine, Pistol+ Master Ranged weapon support)
Master Unarmed Brawler
40k Combat xp to become Novice Commando
That's it.
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It requires Master marksman. That's all 4 branches of the marksman tree + the Master marksman skill.
It also requires master unarmed brawler. That's just the 4 boxes in the unarmed branch, not another whole tree to master.
You DONT need to be a MASTER BRAWLER. You ONLY need the UNARMED BRANCH of Brawler. So you get novice Brawler, then do the 4 levels of UNARMED. You DONT need 1H Sword, 2H Sword or Polearm.
Tomaric wrote:
Sorry I'm at work and not explaining my self well.. I understand what master marksman is, master skills ect. But why do you have to have master brawler and master marksman to get to one elite skill?
Tomaric,
You have to be a Master Marksman and a UA Specialist because that is what is Required.
Why is it required?
Well, It's a matter of using Character points.
Certain Classes WILL be more powerful than others. This is why SOE says you cannot compare class to class.
For Novice Pistoleer, it requires 35 Skill points. Same for Master Ranger.
However, Commandos are a Hybrid Elite class, as are Bounty Hunters, as are Combat Medics.
Commandos Require 142 Skill points to get to Novice Commando.
Same for Combat Medics.
Bounty Hunters require 160 Skill points to become Bounty Hunters.
So, Why is not equal?
Well, for these Elite classes to be more powerful, you have to give something up, what you give up is Character Skill points. This makes your character more Specialized because you can do much less with it.
A Master Pistoleer can be a Master Doctor. A Character with these 2 masteries are the best Healers in the game, as well as the best (or one of them) pistol users in the game. Or Pistoleer/Creature Handler. Once again, being just a Pistoleer allowed them to expend all those extra points on being able to have very good pets.
So, who does Commandos need Unarmed? To take up extra points. A Master Commando cannot become a Master Doctor. Infact, a Master Commando cannot master any other profession that does not require a Prereq that is shared with Commando (Rifleman, Pistoleer, Carbiner, Smuggler, or TKA)
Folks like BH's cannot master any other profession period.
For this Specialization, the class (or one would hope) would be very powerful and very specialized. Commandos and BH's cannot do as much as other classes can, because they burn through most of their points, but in trade off, what they are supposed to do well, they should do much better than anyone else.
Currently, Commandos are pretty weak however, and pretty..well..Gimped.
Why cause rifle and unarmed at those leves are the hardest expericence to get.
Rifleman on one server, Smuggler on an other.