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Thread: Commandos are overated and underskilled!!We should be alot stronger.

KornSwag
Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:31 pm
#1

commandos whould be able to kill anyone no matter what. except for leveled jedi but even in the movies a bounty hunter shoots a jedi dead in one shot. im saying commando should have way more weopons way more defense(cause there is none right now) when i think of a commando i think of a one man killing force. i shouldnt need pets or doctor skills just my weopons and my tactics. y is there no knockdown or dizzy shot for commando. we should be the baddest mo fo's in the game period. thats the reason i went commando isnt it yours? commandos are overrated cause were not that good, we should be 100 fold better, our weopons should fire faster do more damage. i've seen rifleman take 5k damage along with carbiners and swordsman if commando cant beat out those guys then is commando worth it? no, because u could save all those skill points.



Zovi Osskiss


Almost master commando)just need more stupid acid rifle)


Ahazi



commandos are overrated and underskilled

ScootieJoogab
Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:11 pm
#2

Ridiculous. One man killing force indeed.


We have our problems, but our general power level is about where it should be if you ask me. The only glaring error I can see is the 2.5x melee damage modifier, and rumour has it that it's on its way out anyway.




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Deathscythe816
Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:25 pm
#3

Commandos are not underpowered. Commandos are exactly what they should be, crappy vs players and own against armored stuff. Imperials are AFRAID to use AT-STs now because Commandos can drop them in a few seconds, doesn't sound very underpowered. The way it works is this.....Bounty Hunters get awsome player vs. players skills, they get shots and attacks that control the target and they can target specific pools. A Commando is great against armored stuff, I mean look at the types of weapons you can hold, you can do acid, electric, heat, all kinds of exotic damage that a lot of stuff just doesnt have good defense against. Commando will be good against vehicles once those come out because Commandos are MEANT to penatrate armor. Have you ever seen a Rifleman, Carbineer, or Pistoleer or even a Bounty Hunter solo an AT-ST? No, because they CANT, they just simply dont have the hard hitting, armor peircing weaponry to do so. Commandos carry big gun, rocket launchers, acid rifles, lightning cannons ect. and I ask you this, in RL, how many times does a person in any military use a rocket launcher on a PERSON? They don't, the weapon is in accurate and slow firing, if they miss the small taget, they are fooked. Instead they save that hard hitting firepower for slower moving, bigger targets. Commandos are exactly where they should be, able to take down ATs with ease, but still beatable 1 on 1.




-Trulak

-Colonel of the Imperial Army
Cymene
Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:46 pm
#4

Apparently you've never been 1 shot by a rifleman with his af3 T-21 when he uses strafing shot on you, then db's you from 64m .....
Deathscythe816
Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:54 pm
#5

Gee, I'm SO glad you read my reply so well, COMMANDOS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE ANTI-PERSONAL, ANTI-INFANTRY ect. they are anti-vehicle/anti-armor combatants, a Rifleman can't solo an AT-ST, a Commando can. Every class has its strengths and weaknesses, DEAL WITH THEM OR FIND A NEW PROFESSION.



-Trulak

-Colonel of the Imperial Army
KornSwag
Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:18 pm
#6

Good replies but when i think commando i think of the movie commando with my new govna Arnold Shwartsznegger(how u spell it again). where u runs around and kills everyone blows loads of chit up. he is good against heavy armor and pvp, remember. it didnt matter what was in front of him he could unload on it and kill whatever with eeez. thats what a commando should be like.
ShonRiyan
Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:20 pm
#7

Not us
Android21
Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:15 pm
#8

Commando was the best B movie on Earth. When he fired 3 shots and 8 guys fell down?-Classic.


Commandos are fine, we just need better defense, and better weapons that don't start with F. Oh wait that's just one.




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Tsunami87
Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:17 pm
#9






Cymene wrote:
Apparently you've never been 1 shot by a rifleman with his af3 T-21 when he uses strafing shot on you, then db's you from 64m .....




We dont even have T21's on Ahazi yet. Is that sad or what? No resources to make them!




Tsu - Master Squad Leader

maddogs
Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:58 pm
#10

ok guys for you that dont know any thing


this is stright from the prima's offical strategy guide (soe's singnetures on this thing)


whether behind the tripod of a e-web repeating blaster or controlling an anti-infantry turret the commando can control entire areas of the battlefild alone!!!


now theres 2 things i want to know were the heck is are E-web blaster and who the heck said we're only anti-vehicel


the flame throwe and the acid rifel r are defintly anti-infantry (they have no ap if they were anti-vehicel they have AP2 or 3)


the fact is right now were gimped and gimped bad when a master pistoler can out dam a hybrid profesion theres some thing rong and thats that




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Mavarus
Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:51 am
#11

Good point maddogs. For the guy who said we are for taking out at-st's, what about us imps what do we do besides die. Melee one hits us and we can reach range and dont say use our heavy weapons because they never hit moving targets. We are gimp I agree. Made our prof how they said it would be when the game came out.


Master Commando of Invictus




Telkhar
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But I get the feeling they don't care.

Vinceroix
Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:14 am
#12

You let melee's reach their range? *sighs* 16m is my line of death... to get closer you have to be in my group or a very cute female Dosh with sexy ridges, shiny scales, and talons sharper than a vibroblade.


My chief gripe is that to tank anything bigger than a womprat, you need a CH... to my mind, a master Brawler/Fencer/TKA/Swordsman/Stick Jock should have an even odds chance at taking on a lair of blues without three medics in a perpetual heal cycle (too much like EQ)... Mind you, the only thing I can see reasonably standing against a Krayt is six grauls and two rancors giving me time to break out my rocket launcher... But I've never damaged a single hide, meat, or bone...


Are we overpowered? If you are aware of your surroundings, understand your weaknesses, and know when to burst your way into cone range of that BH spamming Eyeshot, we can be, but then we've earned it.


Lynch, Master Commando of Flurry


Force Unsensitives, giving you all the ol' /FU

TechnoHic
Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:37 am
#13

Maddogs right. And even understandable this time, but you dont even need the strategy guide to find out. Just let your cursor float over the top comando boxes on your skill menu and notice that it says avoid this person on the battlefield at all cost unless distracted or otherwise incapacitated. Thats what brought me to this profession and thats why Im staying in hopes that they get it right one day but I sure dont feel it. When I first started it looked like they were right seeing as how noce it was even at novice but since that damage mod along with mob speeds increased to ice that cake, I had to get some pets and thats not how I see myself as a comando, I see mysef as supposed to be the deadliest soldier in the game acording to the descriptions but infact, during this nerf, I had meleers stay right on top of me and keep pestering me for a duel just to exploit my akiles heel. I TK'ed there buts.


Maybe they messed up and we were supposed to have spent all our skill pool points just for all battle skills you can have and be master comando. If thats the case change it and I'll do it again because I want to be what the strategy guide and skill tree says I should be.




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