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Thread: why KD and a DIZZY attack for the LP wouldint be over powerd

maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:56 am
#1

ok guy many times ppl have sed this would be over powerd


me and my friend got a reb misson we whent out and killed the stoormtroopers and were tallking wyh we were beeting down this 60K life biulding (i tell you 60k life is just redicoules lol) we werent really paying attion


so a bh walltz over the hill hits me with kd+dizzy im stuck then he hits my freind with kd+dizzy now were both stuck he runs up and llc LS2 my frend doing a nice 1300 dam to him then aims at me dose a LS2 misses dose it agen misses and agen misses(im still dizzy kd)4th time hit and did 1230 dam to my mind im ded lol


but heres my point if a bhs can do this and not have to wory about any thing we should be abel to atlest do some thing like this i meen if we miss 3 times he will defintly be back up by this time lol


are flame specils take 8.5 secs to shoot agen a llc 1 sec and higher dam out putt


but for reall i dont think dizzy should work at all in pvp its the gayest attack in the whole game


i meen some one kd+dizzying you then doind doubel tap with a pistole just so it damegesyour amor more and not have to wory about how slow they killyou is just not right




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Tabcef
Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:54 am
#2

No, it would be overpowered!


KD+Dizzy= They're down for at most 30 seconds, depending on class.


That is enough time to bleed, FS, AS(LOL!), Grenade, Special Weapon them to death..




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GADzilla
Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:07 am
#3

"That is enough time to bleed, FS, AS(LOL!), Grenade, Special Weapon them to death"


And how is this anydifferent than a TKA knocking me over and doing that neverending washing-machine spin on my head? Or the Bounty hunter who slams me to the ground and then burns or electricutes me while I can's do dookie?





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Mavarus
Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:20 am
#4

It doesnt matter I have a range and melee KD and a range and melee dizzy. I they dont give it to us oh well. I still have it hehe. Maddog, u should go up the dirty fighting line, pistoleer 0033, TKA 0110, and there ya go, people hate me even more now, oh well let them.


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GADzilla
Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:51 am
#5

I'm working on the same thing.



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Tabcef
Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:41 am
#6

To answer the reply to my post-


Simple, their DOTs can be healed.


Ours can't. You're basically asking for a super buff. We're not supposed to be the anti-infantry class.


We're supposed to be the anti-vehicle class, but it seems from the FT buff, we're the all-purpose class.


Anti-Everything. Why should they have KD?


1. TKA has to run up to you! Have you ever thought of THAT? You can freaking KITE them to death.


2. Bounty Hunters already have to spend... What, at least 165 skill points to at get underhand shot, whichis a carbine move. Two classes mastedjust to have it. The Eyeshot will be put up to MBH, either way.


We're supposed to be thedamage dealingclass against mechanicalenemies, not theUbertank.


It seems, yousay you areonlybasing this on that that he can KD and Dizzy you, but it seems this is more about the LLC being able to fire every second to kill you and your friend.


Maybe, you are asking for a LLC nerf, perhaps on the delay?




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Tabcef
Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:45 am
#7

Er, typo. Mastered on the last post.


BH underhand shot, I agree though is unfair, namely with the dizzy.


But stilll,they have to pay with the price of a high skill-point cost..


Eh, I guess I can't think of anything on how it's fair that BH have underhand shot.


Oh well.







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Grimhelm
Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:53 am
#8

Right cause you know we don't have high requirements for our class or anything *rolls eyes*. I'm sorry but it is complete bs that we don't have any posture change stuff in our line. EVERY other combat profession does. You know how they fix our dot? Get it to work with resists and armor, bam, problem solved.



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Marforce
Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:00 am
#9

I have a Knockdown its called lowblow.



Kieca Oliaw
Tabcef
Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:02 am
#10


Hello, we do have posture changing attacks, just not in our class.


Marksman supressive fire? Oh, armor doesn't help against flame (Well, so far it seems from my flamethrower). The DoT still burns at full damage for me.


We still have 88 skill points left after MASTERING Commando. Wow, we could master a whole other class!


It's not like SWG doesn't allow dabbling into other clases, nor multiclassing.





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maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:33 pm
#11

ok maby i put it all rong actuly i know i did


this is more of a cry for dizzy not to work in pvp


it is just a complyt ly unfare attack i can go up the one sid in carb and have dizzy that works for hardly any skillpoints


it makes it so who ever gets fight shot allways wins regurdless of who has more skill


it makes it so some one can putt you out of a fight without even incaping you


all in all its just shouldint work in pvp (but it should work in pve!! this is why i whant it .....that st think hes going toskirt me dose he hum ....


and no it wouldint be over powerd for us to have them ithere becous if a carbiner can get them at 1/3 the skillpointsand he even gets a cone KD+DIZZY tho it may not work right now but one day it will


we deffintly should have atlest have a KD dizzy to diff attacks and only hits one person at a time


and all this crap about taking out big mobs is big time crap are weps arnt power full eneough to kill most big mobs a llc can out dame us by 5X and most mobs are elc vunrebel and so dose a pistoler out dam us even a rifle man has higher dps then us


if we are ment to take out big mobs up the dam on the HWS and on the gernades and make the HAR like the LLC


and add + ac and dam vrs big mobs and - ac vers small mobs right now i can shoot at a nuna and have the same ac and dam as shooting at a rancor .........



ps i do have smugler dirty fighting 4 but it dont help when some one gets the jumb on ya and kd+dizzyes lol also i whent to master tk but dont have enogh skillpoints becous i have to keep smuggler to be abel to cech thos stupid runing stoormtroopers thats why i really whent a kd for commando a rang kd so i can master 2 proffesions ........also it seems like the devs are working on stoping most dabeling i meen look at CH i say there going to go around and proply do there best to stop all dabbling




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:42 pm
#12

as for the llc with evry one sec thats reguler for a bh i have a bh in my guild and he spames thos ls2 at ever 1 sec but he dose have a krayt one tho to lol some thing all good pvpers seem to have ......


if u look back a bityou will find amazing stats of both the FT and LLC on thees formes from krayt tisues




as for ac on the llc no dought its inacuret i meen he missed 3 times but the same goes forour flamer thrower exept it always has a 8.5 delay after specilec and it does less dam and has no ap and i dont know for a fact but i hear even worse ac


and im a tka to and dizzy dosint seem to stick on any animel but on npcs if you get them kd+dizzy u can solo the tufest of npcs


but who agrees with me that dizzy should not work in pvp kd is fine but being stuck to the groud just ant right




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

jadegreif
Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:57 pm
#13

Hmm, one bug (or feature) with KD is, if you hit a mob with KD again, while its on the ground it will stand up right away.
So maybe you hit KD, creature fell, you (or your budy hit it with KD again while its still suffering from the first, it will get back up right away.

That would explain what you have described.




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