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Thread: Dont you just hate people going for commando soley for flamethrower?

DrummDude1
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:40 pm
#1

It pisses me off. I mean, I know its your skill points and xp, but come on...its not the best gun in the galaxy. It gives true commandos a bad name



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FURY_Chaser
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:43 pm
#2

nope, i am twice as effectice as a dabbler than i would be at master commando. Points are just that points get over it.
El_Oso_pardo
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:44 pm
#3

well you know they have no idea what a HPBC is, or a lighting cannon, or RL, man those are fun things to shoot too



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Meredragon
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:54 pm
#4

/shrug I can't really blame people for using the parts of a profession that work. I surrendered Acid 4 and Field tactics 4 when i tried out the weaps with their skill mods and decided that I would never use them with their current accuracy/delay/ham costs ...etc. It is kind of lame to see everyone and their brother with a FT but that's SOE's fault for releasing an unfinished game and fixing a piece at a time, can't blame the dabblers. Then again I may be a little biased

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Ivoni
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:05 pm
#5

Sadly best combat pve is a BH / CH combo.



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Atlus
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:16 pm
#6

Not really. This game was designed for the dabbler. I don't mind at all. Even though Commando is my main course of action, i'm still dabbling other proffesions. I don't think they mind, then again I don't read the CH forums, medic forums, or artisan forums.
SAEL-ORO
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:38 pm
#7

I have to disagree.


Commando / CH is the BEST PvE combo in the game!


I mean i can do more damage with my flamethrower than any LLC.


I do between 2500-3600 dmg per shot! I havent seen LLC do that...


Plus what ever I attack is set on fire and receives burning dmg as a bonus..


Commando is ths ShizzNIzzle!

Wolfmann31
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:55 pm
#8

You havent seen a LLC do your damage?.....odd.



LLC has about the same "min-Max" damage as a flamer..but is AP 1, while a flamer ic Ap 0.


Their special are about the same modifier as we have, mius the burn and delay. Same range tho....


Since the DoT is said to be "lowered" soon...I would say that BH's got the better deal again.


I do half damage against AC 1 animals, while my BH partner do 2X more than me on the same animals....that outdamages my burn fast.



I wish, I didnt hate pets...and that I too would join the ranks of the Po Ke Monners....then I could live again....





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OberonMyx
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:00 pm
#9

Hmmm to dabble, or not to dabble, that is the question...


Well, as far as commandoes are concerned,


I flame, therefore i am....


Before the patch, i considerd myself a diehard commando, dabblers back the freak up, don't let me see you on the street...


That is, until I got beat down by a bol bolle (con white) then a female plains tusk cat (con blue) and then two axe weilding maulers (con blue as welll) and then finally b-slapped by a BH who not only killed me sans one freakin scratch, also, just to make me look stupid, i think (succeeded) decided to not only focus on my mind, but my action and body as well, so that before he incapped me i had like, 50 health, 75 action, and 0 mind.I looked back at the combat log (because he proceeded to lecture me about how i shouldn't have messed with him (though he attacked me disquised as a lowly imperial novice medic) and how he hated to have to do this but...) before he deathblew me (odd term, but hey, think of one better... sounds necrophilic, does it not?) In the combat log i found a freakin page of freakin' specials so long that i actually thought it was the action-packed opening to the Episode III novel adaptation, that, in incapacitation, i had found clues to next movies mysteries.


That made me think about my chosen careerpath more than anything else, i think.


So on to dabbling. im not a master commando... but i didn't take commando just for the flame tree. i am currently a 2, 3,4,0 commando (okay, yeah, shoot-- er, uh, flame me, i read the bunnyslayers guide and took his advice with the flametree...like you didn't? Come on, man, stop lying to yourself!) And i see no point in continuing, other than the feeling of accomplishment whenI tell thatshallow tortonthat just incapped me thrice "im a Master commando", the prestige of having "Master Commando" under my name, the fear such nomenclature inspires (for those who don't know grenadeer and master commando are like, the same thing, you know?) and the awesome flamecone 2 (awe-something.. ful, maybe?) Other than that, why master it? i mean, come on, how many times have you used that freakin "only non armor piercing acid" rifle? (If you even have one?) and how many grenades have you thrown ( really? that many huh? wow... impressive.. liar...)


So whywaste the 28 sp's for grenades and acid rifle? Why, why, why? When they fix it, yeah, letsdrop our other stuff and become master commandoes,but with this 2.5xcrapola, i see it as a bit of a waste. Now go ahead, call me a dabbler, challenge me to a deul... I don't fear the Master's, im not afraid ofthe master's...oras they say down south, I'm not skeered.... i know the secret of the master commando.. it's ion his flamethrower and heavy weapons tree.i know i got as much a shot as you as winning the duelwith 0,4,4,0 as i do with Master. And that's sad, really, when a dabbler can beat a master 5/10 times with his own weapon. So until this class is fixed, i say this.. leave the dabbler's alone. One day you may become like me... wake up and say, you know, i don't even use these stinkin grenades, and you know what else, my dx2 does a better job than this Acid Non-Rifle right here... Maybe i should learn how to do something more productive with these skill points...


When this happens, you'll find yourself in the ranks of us, the many, the proud... the dabblers.


Oberon


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Nvim
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:11 pm
#10

The difference between the Commando and the BH is that the mobs with high electrical resistance and the BH is doing ordinary damage with the LLC to them, granted they can switch to the pistol or carbine. But the heavy hitting LLC is not always the best weapon they can use.

Even though I have squat in acid rifle i still carry one and still use it on things with high heat resistance.

Getting Commando for just the FT is a huge investment because you have alot of wasted skill points doing nothing for you. If people are happy with that then good on them. If you have a problem with that then the only people that care are a few disgruntled master commandos that think they have achieved something special, which you haven't. So what, you can get to HW 4, HAR 4 and Field Tactics 4 without using anything but the Flamethrower and it is more likely than not that you trained those skills up with the FT. That makes most of the whining master commandos hypocrites.

What kind of achievement is that? Hell, you can get to master commando without even picking up a heavy weapon, just use the launcher pistol.

Do whatever you enjoy, let others do the same. Complaining her about it just makes you look ignorant and petty.

When the skills require effort and when that effort comes in the form of a worthwhile reward then more people will take them. As it is, most of the other Commando lines are about as handy as Unarmed 4.
Tamrael
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:44 pm
#11

The answer seems to be that CH/Commando is better for PvE because the Flame DoT ignores resistances. It'll kill a Krayt just as fast as it'll kill a Squill.



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Nuu
Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:19 pm
#12

"It pisses me off. I mean, I know its your skill points and xp, but come on...its not the best gun in the galaxy. It gives true commandos a bad name."


This kinda reminded me of a friend who used to be lividat another friend for taking and makingthe most uberlicious character (or so we all think) i.e. the Dwarven Cleric character in D&D. It was just min-maxed to the hilt.


Today when I looked back on it, I do asked the question:


1. Does that angerreally mattered today?


2. Who was the problem if there was a problem at all? The friend that was mad or the friend that min-maxed?



Peace.



JuntSmoka
Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:59 am
#13

Novice medic is 15 skill points. Thats alot. Plently to allow use of stims IMO.


On the subject of dabblers, more specifically the master commandos who don't like the dabblers. I'd just like to ask ya'll how often you use the HAR? Are grenades really that usefull, considering all those skill points for them? As a master TKA, I wanted to add high end long range dammage to my characer, so I picked up commando. Let's face it, the flamethrower is the workhorse the and heavy weapon support is the real bang. Until a master commando is able to beat me with a heavy acid rifle alone I will not pick up that line. Grenades at this moment are even more expensive to produce than the support weapons. The way commando is right now, you'd be a fool to NOT be a dabbler.




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