Commando Archive
Thread: Noticed that BH are a bunch of whiners
the dev teams are deciding to nerf knockdown and i saw at least 100 threads (ok i might be exaggregating) from bounty hunters complaining that it'll ruin their profession....
To that, all i have to say is AT LEAST YOUR CLASS WORKS IN THE FIRST PLACE
It's kinda sad really. This game will make everyone the same, we will all do the same damage just in a different way, like others will use bodyshot 3 and I (when commando is fixed) will do roughly the same damage but in a more glamourous way, like in the form of a huge explosion.
I agree that Knockdown should be at least nerfed in some way, the move isn't only powerful there's no way around it, it is inevitable that a BH will use that in PvP and therefore impossible to beat him.
I'm trying to figure out which classes actually DO work in the first place.
I originally wanted to be a commando. It just sounded fun and neat and interesting. Then I saw what that class was all about ... broken and unplayable.
So I thought, hmmmm ... how bout rifleman?
Well, that class has issues. And they're getting nerfed in PvP.
So I thought, I've got all this scouting XP already, why not Bounty Hunter? I'm working through to master marksman anyways.
That class is getting nerfed.
I'm running out of options here. Pistoleer? Squad Leader? Ranger? Chef? Does anything work?
/sigh
It's looking like I may not last past that first free month, simply because SoE, just as they've done in EQ, have gone and screwed up playability.
Balance? Hah. How can they BALANCE the classes when half of them don't even WORK?
/boggle
I totally agree especially when they can knock you down from 64 meters away then run up to you and incap you then spit/laugh/taunt at you while you're probably bleeding and just plain pissed off
I am for one messing around with the BH profession while waiting for the commando to be fixed.
I do not know why they have a bad reputation and I do not care, I chose it because by the time I had the preqs to commando I was almost a master scout, I chose it because the only half decent Heavy weapon I came across was the BH LLG so I thought it was a great idea to get HW xp this way, and finally I chose it because the BH-missions are quite challenging.
Expert Bounty Hunter - Novice Commando
BH- awesome stats mods, bleeding shots, KNOCKDOWNS
Commandos- well we have faith in our launcher pistol that does less dam. than a good scout blaster
Bounty Hunters Are very powerhungry, annoying, and think only of themselves, i keep track of almost all the classes.. and Bounty Hunter, CH, and Pistoleer are By Far the greedist of all.. they want it all.. they want it now.. and they want it big.. They want to be Boba Fett, with a Deathstar to commando.. they want mandolrian.. they want rancors.. they want better knockdowns.. godamn.. seriously Bounty Hunters are the most powerhungry class i've ever heard of its a bit ridiculious, it makes me sick.. lol
Well I was originally a BH. I got my character up to Bounty Pistol 2 and Bounty Carbine 1, then I started working on some of those cool (well I thought they would be cool) bounty missions. I soon found out that every mob I encountered was red and was able to take me out in a few hits. So since I didnt want to become a pistoleer or carbineer I decided to pick up CH and I bought a gurreck. After getting my pet I had np killing the marks for my missions and was actually fun. Then I unfortuntly achieved Investigation 1. My first mission was suppose to be on Endor. So I bought 6 droids (3 planetary droids, and 3 interplanetary droids) and bought a round trip ticket to Endor. Now I should say the mission payoff was 9k however I have already invested roughly 8600c for this mission before I even left Naboo. I figure no biggie I prob wont use to many droids anyway, 1 interplanetary droid to find out what planet my mark is on (which was endor) and I assumed 1 planetary one for when I get to Endor to find my marks location. Well I was in for a big surprise once I got to Endor.
Once I reached Endor I noticed my interplanetary droid located and gave me a wp to my mark, which happened to be smack dab in the middle of the Endor and a long haul from either outpost.I ran out to it wp, and nothing was there. So I used the planetary droid that I assumed I was gonna use anyway. Sure enough my trusty kmart terminal droid found his location, which happened to be almost half the planet away again. Even though I was a bit frustrated cause of the distance, I was pretty excited but chasing the mark down for execution. However once I got to the location of the newest wp, the mark wasnt there. Well I used another droid. Found his new location and ran all the way back half the planet again to it. Again, no mark. This continued till I ran through all 6 of my droids and by the time I used my last droid and got to the last wp and once again found no mark, I thought to myself what a complete waste of time that was int eh 2 hours or more i spent doing it.
In two hours I lost 8600c and never finished the mission cause it would require me to travel back to naboo, buy more tracking droids and buy another round trip ticket to endor and start the process all over again. During that same 2 hour time period my friend did jax missions (before nerf) and made 40-50k credits. After feeling like a complete chump I decided what a complete waste of time BH was. Investigation line is worthless (you can make more money and xp doing regular missions even the ones that arnt exploits), I heard the lightning cannon was completly gimped so that spec line was worthless, and I read only Bounty Pistol and Bounty Carbine was worth anything. So I figured whats the point being a BH, your just a Carbineer or Pistoleer with fancier styles, so why master 2 other professions to simply get these fancier styles.
Thats when I made the decision to change to Commando. And then I truely realized the meaning of gimped or worthless professions.
Since becoming a Commmando I have fought several BH in PvP and most are just running around spamming either Torso Shot or the Low Blow styles then calling you a noob. First of all since so many want to be a BH cause they thought Bobba or Janga was very cool in the movies, did they ever think this is the kind of actions either of those BH would do after they successfully defeated their opponents. Then again it they usually used several different methods to dispose of their targets, not simply spam the same cheap tactic over and over again.
The other night I was running around with some other rebs in Bestine. Well we came up on an Imperial base and saw an Imp about to declare. However there was another Reb taggin along behind us and bragging how he can kill other rebs. He ran up, healed the imp one time, then turned and targetted me and incapped me with one Torso Shot. After one of my group members healed me and I got up I saw the guy trying to run up and take antoher shot, so I hit him with 1 stopping shot and did over 1400 dmg to him. Then I ran up to him and Death Blowed him. He then proceeded to send me tells bragging that even though I got him the fire dmg will set in soon. Five minutes went by before the fire dmg actually took effect and started to do 400 dmg a tick to me which I had to keep healing myself or I would die. It ended up doing over 800 health wounds to me. The next day I tried using my flamethrower on my friend who is a doctor/combat medic/and pistol specialist (NOT pistoleer only marksman pistol specialist). I attempted AT 0 range to use my flame style to burn him. The first attempt missed and he **edit** near killed me since I stood there like a statue waiting for teh 13 second delay to wear off. I had to pull out my pistol and pistol whip him so I could stay alive long enough to try my flamethrower again. After I knocked him down I attempted the flame 2 styles again....it hit...and did a whopping 78 dmg and during the 40 or so seconds it ticked on him did around 50-100 dmg I think and left about 10 or so health wounds.
So after being a BH and being a Commando and fighting BH I can honestly say even though I feel for those BH who busted their asses to get through Investigation and Lightning Cannon to become a TRUE BH and not just some uber l33t d00d who only wants BH to have the cheapest styles in the game, I have no sympathy for any BH if they nerf the Bounty Pistols and Carbine styles, cause I have experienced being a commando for weeks now and know the true meaning of gimpness.
Ok now get this, to add insult to injury the dev's are upping the bounty hunter's damage....on top of the they made fixing FISHING, that's right FISHING, a priority which is being patched...while no mention of commando's (well they are fixign acid rifles and it's cert. but since there's no acid rifle for sale it's amoot point)
The damage they are upping for BH is for the LLC, not the other moves.
PVP damage is being reduced by 75% which means, not only will commandos be totally useless in PVP, we'll just be less difficult to murder. Damage after all was our only saving grace since we have no defensive moves. Of course, none of us know what that damage is, since flame throwers and HAR have never been tested on the TC. (what good is TC for anyways, if its just low level content?)
To me, TC should be a series of "everyones is Master 'fillintheblank' day"! Get your Special weapons at the local dispenser....