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Thread: Attention: A new age approaches...

StarNick
Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:40 pm
#1

As I am sure some of you have already read, SWG is getting a MAJOR game upgrade...

You thought the CU was big? This makes the CU look tiny in comparison. Unfortunately, a lot of the professions will be no more. Fortunately, commando WILL be!

Links for more info:

f13 article

VN Boards

Brawler Corro


First to say, I *was* on the original invitee list (about 9-10 folks were invited to fly down to Austin on Nov 1st and leave today). Unfortunately, I was unable to attend. Which, in my opinion kinda sucks, as that was also before I found out that we were going be playtesting a game upgrade of this caliber.

From what I've heard, they invited folks who represented and had ties either to the 9 professions, or media outlets. Because I was invited, Im reckoning some major changes are coming to our beloved profession.

What changes? No idea, but Im trying to get information regarding what will happen. We'll also probably be seeing this on TC too.

However, since we're one of the 9 major classes...Im thinking thats a sudden end to our support, and the gimpness we've been through in the past 2 years. Secondly, I also think commando will become what we've always wanted it to be - a deadly soldier who is skilled with all kinds of weaponry, and makes enemies scared ***less (to be frank!). Now, I have absolutely no information regarding specifics...but I have a feeling we'll be hit with some sort of a major change in that direction...

And I could be wrong. But regardless if Im not or am, I think commando is going to really benefit from this...

Imagine twitch combat, and imagine how many of us wanted the profession to play as a Master Chief, Republic Commando, or rocket soldier from Battlefront (a few examples). Well, it seems we WILL be able to play like that:

*Grenades...remember that superb idea of giving us an aiming reticle so we could aim and throw a grenade where we want to? With twitch, Im betting we'll get that (no confirmation however)

*Our weapons...imagine firing a Rocket anywhere we want...or flaming anything we want...

*Vehicles...because of twitch, I am confident we'll be seeing vehicles in the game. Not only would this promote star warsy feelings (AT-ATs on a battlefield, a la hoth...MUST have vechs to get that feeling), and the new combat twitch system will support them. It would have been tricky under the old system, but in a more twitch orientated one...you can, since you won't have instant death from turret fire (gunners will actually have to aim) or from anti-vehicle folks (we'll have to actually aim)...and speaking of vechs...

We might actually get our old role of a tank buster back

Sadly...we wont be able to drop a class we choose, but we're all commandos...we -never- leave right? . Other than that, Im betting this is gonna be really cool.



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Hexxon
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:13 pm
#2

Good idea SOE. Aim and shoot.


So what, it's gonna be like UT/Halo/BF/[insert FPS here] fighting, except maybe in third-person view?


Or is it going to be some buggy, slow version of that kind of combat?


Twitch combat is my life. I'll mow jedi down left and right by myself. With a survival knife.




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JoKen_Jash
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:24 pm
#3


Can I just get a "HOO-AH!"



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nbd9k
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:32 pm
#4

i think you mean oo-rah


but seriously, stern, what else do you know? the letter to the community that they put out is causing quite a comotion.

StarNick
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:32 pm
#5

Im assuming this:

Think of SWG now, but rather than click on legshot to fire your PFT...you can aim anywhere at the person...head, arms...etc

Thats the major change in how combat mechanics work most likely. The rest are aesthetics, stats, weapons, and of course professions. But think of a SWG like now...mounts, houses, player cities, etc. It's not like all of a sudden everything we know that is non-combat has been ripped out, and everything combat has been utterly changed...

At least, thats how im reading this. Most likely the interface will change since it's twitch (something more like JTL or a FPS), and some major aspects will be different because it is twitch, but it's still SWG.



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StarNick
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:35 pm
#6

Aside from the Jedi profession I think blew up today...nothing much beyond what has already been told. Many I know some more than what has been leaked out, but Ill be waiting till I can physically see confirmation as I'll be basising it on just a "he said, she said". I'd definately hit up (or stalk...sorry lol, had to be funny ) the folks who did get to go to austin yesterday/today...

At least, that is what Ill be doing heh. Plus, this is going to be hitting TC soon so it'll be upon us before we know it.



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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nbd9k
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:36 pm
#7


i cant get those clickies to work btw.


but it sounds interesting.



oh so they have a working timeline for it already? is that a TH "soon" or a seriously, its comming!

Message Edited by nbd9k on 11-02-2005 03:38 PM

StarNick
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:42 pm
#8

The starter kit probably has something to do this this, and this will be hitting TC by the weekend (tentatively and from what Im hearing from others). Till official dev confirmation, hold that with a grain of salt...but if everything I hear is accurate and true (and judging from the producer's letter) we have a good chance of seeing this on live faster than the CU took.



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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nbd9k
Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:51 pm
#9

From what im seeing now, theyre looking at a 6 month debugging starting on friday, and on going live all of the servers will be wiped, but character information and posessions will be retained. This is some serious stuff.


my one concern: there is no "standard" combatant role, so everyone and their mothers will be a commando. this could be really good for vets like us, or really bad.
StarNick
Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:08 pm
#10

From the FAQ:

Commando = Commander Cody

Need an AT-ST destroyed? Call a Commando! Need a base blown up? The Commando is the one for you!

A true combat specialist, the Commando uses heavy weaponry and demolitions to break through resistance. Whether you prefer to get in close or fight at range, Commandos wreak havoc with their powerful weapons.

General Skills:

+ Ranged Combat
+ Melee Combat
+ Grenades
+ Demolitions Techniques

Special:

+ Heavy Weapons
+ Explosives
+ E-Mag Mine – this special drops an explosive charge that detonates when your enemy steps on it



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

tacwraith
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:01 pm
#11

Sigh. just when I thought SOE couldnt screw up more ...they do.


This is a TERRIBLE idea.


point and click... my god this will become unreal tournament/quake star wars.


no more modifiers, no more things that players have to take into account when in combat.. just plain,retarded, idiotic...point and click.


just.. wow.


I just have one question though: Will proffessions still be able to mix? Like can I have a commando/smuggler? or are we being idioticized into a single proff with nothing else to mix with?




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JadenKatrell
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:12 pm
#12



tacwraith wrote:
I just have one question though: Will proffessions still be able to mix? Like can I have a commando/smuggler? or are we being idioticized into a single proff with nothing else to mix with?






Same Question that I have

personnaly im really looking forward to the new changes



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TwilekKilla
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:27 pm
#13



JadenKatrell wrote:


tacwraith wrote:
I just have one question though: Will proffessions still be able to mix? Like can I have a commando/smuggler? or are we being idioticized into a single proff with nothing else to mix with?






Same Question that I have

personnaly im really looking forward to the new changes


QFT, I think that it'll make it less of a dependence on whether your LS is godlike, and more baised on how good you REALLY are. Hopefully we'll hear less of "Pwnd n00b", and more of "Eat flame b1tch!"



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