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Thread: Why god? WHY!?

mhorn2001
Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:21 am
#1

I wouldnt exactly call all that nerfing...its more like balancing. Also i think you need to start shopping elsewhere for a computer or build your own if your paying more then $2000. 2000 bucks will get you one awesome machine if you buy all the parts seperated from newegg or some other website.



Laeuvas


Teras Kasi / Commando


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Laeuvas
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Asudai
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:01 am
#2

I don't see why anyone ever thought that commando was a good PVP proffesion. Our best weapon is very slow (but devestating) and we get a penalty vs melee damage. I mean a smart Commando can hold his own in PVP but he is most dangerous in PVP with a group. In my opinion the commando is a hunting machine. Any group going on a hunt for anything should be thankful if a commando is part of their group. If ya want to be a PVP king then you should pick up either Pistoleer, Bounty Hunter or TKA. One combination that I have't tried yet that is possible is Master Pistoleer, Commando with only the Flame Thrower tree and Medic with at least the full phatmacology tree. Right there you become a self sustaining fighting machine. With that you could knock someone down with pistoleers stopping shot, then light them up while they are down. And Master Pistoleers have some great defenses.



Don't give up hope on this game yet. Yes it is buggy, but if you understood better what actually was involved in keeping this game running and filled with content you might be a little more forgiving. We should feel lucky that their are Devs working constantly to keep this game balanced and striving to make it better. Someone is bound to get their toes stepped on, it is just the nature of the game.





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EwokBaby
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:04 am
#3

His comp got all messed up from improper shutdowns? I didn't know this game was out for Macs yet...



Dacron Wavir-Master Commando/Master TKA/Novice Pistoleer
Jeht_
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:06 am
#4






Asudai wrote:

I don't see why anyone ever thought that commando was a good PVP proffesion. Our best weapon is very slow (but devestating) and we get a penalty vs melee damage. I mean a smart Commando can hold his own in PVP but he is most dangerous in PVP with a group. In my opinion the commando is a hunting machine. Any group going on a hunt for anything should be thankful if a commando is part of their group. If ya want to be a PVP king then you should pick up either Pistoleer, Bounty Hunter or TKA. One combination that I have't tried yet that is possible is Master Pistoleer, Commando with only the Flame Thrower tree and Medic with at least the full phatmacology tree. Right there you become a self sustaining fighting machine. With that you could knock someone down with pistoleers stopping shot, then light them up while they are down. And Master Pistoleers have some great defenses.



Don't give up hope on this game yet. Yes it is buggy, but if you understood better what actually was involved in keeping this game running and filled with content you might be a little more forgiving. We should feel lucky that their are Devs working constantly to keep this game balanced and striving to make it better. Someone is bound to get their toes stepped on, it is just the nature of the game.








since when did stopping shot kd?


commando and tkm go great together, btw




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-Crunheythewookee-
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:28 am
#5

well i too miss people with flame singale 2 but ill just cone there ass with 1 till i hit master.





-Crunchey





Crunchey MBH/MP/CM
Baalthazar
Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:44 am
#6

First off, that improper shutdown thing is a sham..it doesn't hurt your computer, it;'s just that anything you want saved before hand won't be..if you are typing in word or something. Stopping shot doesn't knock an opponent down, and the melee penalty was removed some time ago Stop being a flavor of the month, and play what is fun
tacwraith
Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:06 am
#7

"First off, that improper shutdown thing is a sham..it doesn't hurt your computer"


yes it does. fragments files, swap files remain in hard drive, depending on the program that was running when the improper shutdown happened it can also mess up your registry and drivers.


since the patch that did the CH changes, SWG has constantly dropped me to my desktop and has caused my computer to reboot all by itself right after I exit SWG (when SWG closes and the desktop tries to pop into the screen). Ive traced it to my WHQL driver (thats Microsoft Certified Drivers for those that dont know) of my GFORCE4 vid card getting messed up *every* single **edit** time swg crashes to desktop. Ive even tried beta drivers and drivers from 6 months ago and the same thing keeps happening. its something in SWG that keeps screwing the vid drivers when the game either crashes to windows or makes my pc reboot by itself. And its the only game this happens in. And heck, I play WW2OL, if THAT game dont screw my pc and SWG does, you can imagine how wrong something in SWG is. WW2OL devs are so incompetent they even made their game format people's computers on one patch.


Now, if you are using flamesingle2 vs a master tka which very likely has other prof's for ranged defense, then yes, you will miss. especially if you are moving. They key to scoring a hit on those classes is to STOP moving and use the flame special.




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Grimhelm
Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:55 am
#8

Why is the guy shutting down after going LD? That seems silly. Anywho, TKM and Commando are a great PvP combo, although you obviously don't need master commando. Because if I get in melee and KD then I'm already in range for my Flame Single, with pistoleer I have to close the distance. Having Master Commando is nice for the Flame Cone 2, groups of imps go down quickly when I'm around in large battles.



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garvin
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:31 am
#9

I wouldnt exactly call all that nerfing...its more like balancing.


It's definitely not "balancing"....Balancing it taking something that is to powerful and balancing it against what else is out there...Currently the Commando Profession is way out of balance...we have only 1 working item on the scale...our FT...the introduction of Fire Extingishers give us NOTHING back in return, all they do is weaken our FT by reducing the time our DoT will effect our opponent...Weakening our FT does in fact count as a NERF by definition...


By taking our one working weapon and, in essence, weakening it...tell me how that is considered "balancing"? Again...to balance, we'd have to be getting something else in return...



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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garvin
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:33 am
#10

Our best weapon is very slow (but devestating) and we get a penalty vs melee damage.


If you are speaking of the 2.5x Melee Multiplier...that was removed from game awhile ago...we no longer get any penalty from melee damage...



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

garvin
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:36 am
#11

With that you could knock someone down with pistoleers stopping shot, then light them up while they are down. And Master Pistoleers have some great defenses.


Your confusing Pistoleer for Smuggler...Pistoleer's Stopping Shot just has a chance of stopping our opponents momentum towards you...


Smuggler has a ranged KD called Low Blow...



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Xtaside
Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:02 pm
#12

It seem's like every profession I go for, SOE nerfs it before or after I master it! I've tried master BH and got worked in PvP and PvE. So I look into going commando and see that the FlameThrower is the only weapon that even does anything. But today I saw a Master TK fighting a Master Commando and the commando missed every single flame DOT and the MTK would knock him down and laugh and point and laugh, then do it al over again. Now with fire extinguishers and that flame 1 and 2 won't go through armor I'm looking to go another profession. I don't see how you guys can live with this. After a long day of work I want to come home and have fun playing a game but after 4 months of switching professions I think I might be done. So I guess I'm just looking for others who have this problem. And how u make this game fun because I can't find a way to make it fun for me.
Xtaside
Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:10 pm
#13

lol sorry 1 more thing. The LD's are insane now. My best hunting buddy quit today because he LDed 4 times in 1 hour and his computer got all messed up from improper shut downs. Not only is this annoying but also very bad for your comp. And most people who play this game have a $2000-$5000 machine.
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