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Thread: Dev communication... why aren't we here?

Wagnbat
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:08 am
#92






JustG wrote:


Thirty three professions, and some are broke all to hell. We want to fix them. All of them. But it takes time.





Who broke them?






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Evelas
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:42 am
#93






teamdoa wrote:
haha, some people dont like the truth, so they delete my posts...very sad indeed.




Same here, I said he's just pacifying us, then he'll leave and ignore us again until we get made at TH.




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Logitition
Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:14 am
#94

Nice that u watch the posts justG... answer me this one tho... what are we to do UNTILL the professions are fixed? Be a TKA, Rifleman or CM? Or is it your plan for us to play an elite profession for another 6 months as a less cappable class than a 96pt. proff untill u guys get around to it?


I know u got alot on your plate, but what is that to me? I have been waiting since beta for most of the combat prof's to get fixed... U are a corporate man in a corporate world, what did u tell YOUR BOSS the ETA was? Can u tell it to us? What do u, as a commando, DO in this game as of now? We PLAY this game in the time u are telling us to wait... are u coming out with dungeons that only the broken classes can get into? Can I tell SOE to wait on my check for the monthly fee? say something like, 'Hey I know I have not paid u in a while, but do not worry I am working on it, just wait a bit, I got a full plate in real life but I will get u guys paid... '


Does not seem like they are gonna accept that ... How bout this, when u get the check, it will be nerfed to about 8 dollars, don't worry, I am working on it and soon I hope to fix it to being what it was it is just going to take some time but in the meantime I have sent u and IOU...


Do not come around here saying stuff that just does not float, talk is CHEAP, however blunt it is.


I read between the lines in your statements. What is more important than FIXING the professions?? I would like an answer. a dungeon and new guns are more important then fixen 3 whole lines in one profession?? More important than fixing broken professions all across the board?


With the professions so broken... U will be setting aside the combat revamp, RIGHT? I mean, without knowing what most of the prof's can do because of the amount of useless broken boxes, u cannot actually plan on putting in a system that will not be able to even be tested right? Or will u only rely on the working 3-4 combat prof's to test it. Why even nerf the DOT's? How overpoered could they be? U can never know... no way to TEST it.



One answer to any of the top questions I have posed would be nice, no worries... it aint like u would give me anything concrete if u DID post. It is like TH now... I do not want to hear anything from that bloke untill he can throw me an informational bone... and ETA, a rounded synopsis of what is planned, telling me to watch wait and see is an insult. period.


Now some of u in the community will think I am whining... I play a master commando, I will play it untill I cannot anymore or they leave it with the broken lines to collect dust... there are other games on the horizon, the clock is ticking.... as it stands now, to keep my friends in this game u will have to make sure u have your Space expansion timed to come out the same week as WoW. I will be here a little bit longer prolly cause I have a good amount of patience, but lets face it out of 10 friends in my home town that began this journey with me on day 1... I now have 3 left... out of the guild I had on day 5 of 40 people... there are 7 left that did not cancel... I want to play with my friends, but so far the 4 in my hometown starting to get restless...


I will be here till at least 3 months after other WORKING options, and then if it continues, alot including I will be FORCED to leave. I do not even care that there are jedi guilds on my server now... or that u see them and TKA's all over the place... All I want to do is be in a game with guns... I always dug Sci-Fi, and this is the best I can hope for next to AO... and the range, moving while u attack things approach is still holding this game above that.


Thx fer yer web space and yer time...


Uben Haum'Qui





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SasKarna
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:37 pm
#95

im going to go totally out on a limb here. Basically agreeing with a post i saw earlier and explanding on it. I couldnt care less if i saw nothing added to the game for a while either. If it meant the professions would all be fixed. I am now trying something new, i got tired of waiting for a commando fix that never will come.

Suffice to say, id rather you fixed the entire 33 professions in one swoop. nerfing and fixing everything all at once and never again. I wouldnt mind in the slightest. since i know once done its over with. but as it stands, the nerfs keep coming, based i believe highly on complaints from consumers rather than necessity. Yet no fixes. Lets just do it all at once and get it over with for EVERYONE. then move on to the nice extras. whats the point in making something i cant enjoy cos i dont know what my commando etc can do today. since it was altered, may have been alktered, etc. on wednesday. cmon, i love this game, but lets get the necessities done before the fun stuff. Thanks for visiting us btw JustG. I have 100% respect for you, which thunderheart rapidly lost with his mindless and unprofessional rants and remarks.....im sure were i to talk to people like that in a consumer environment like a store etc....i would be fired quickly, or at least reprimanded. i hope his remarks and rants are not going un-noticed....its unprofessional, and nothing like i would expect from sony corp
Evelas
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:39 pm
#96

I hate moderators...they just deleted the truth!



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Logitition
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:47 pm
#97

They deleted my post?



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Tepic_Sand
Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:42 am
#98





JustG wrote:

I love commandos... I ground my way up to Master the old-fashioned way on Ahazi, and play one to this day. I cried when we nerf'ed the DOT's, but I think it was right for the game.






There we have it, right from a DEVs mouth. We WERE nerfed, so any other classes that want to come on this board and call it a patch rather than a nerf, just shush...go on, get out...shoo!




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DeusManus
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:54 am
#99

everyone needs to complain. state our case in a cool, rational manner. tell them whats wrong and offer realistic solutions to those problems. true, we have been doing this for months, but its the ONLY way to get things done. if you quit the profession, then the devs win. I wanted despratly to quit commando, but now, im thinking im keeping it. untill this profession is fixed, im in it for the long haul.



devs, we will be heard, our proffesion will be fixed. unless you dont like eating...





Morauz
Seshemw
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:21 pm
#100



HairyNerfherder wrote:
Like I said we have given you 6 months of paitence, I apreciate all your work, but I realy do wish the publishers wernt so greedy and launched this game before it was ready.





It didn't take six months for the commando profession to become workable, so don't pretend it did. hell, we got a good run for more than one month where we went from workable to wow, and the current state of affairs is only an impair, not a full it's-just-broken deal.

Bringing grievances and hopes up is cool, minimizing the good work that's been done (and will be done) is bad.



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Seshemw
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:31 pm
#101

Reading the rest of the thread, I just can't wrap my head around the hate and discontent. We're still a workable profession, we can still function in both pvp and pve just fine. The people running around in 90% armor are running around with 90% KINETIC armor which means nada to us (but does impair TKs, yes?). The dot changes reduce our impact, but don't negate it (not by a long shot). It's disappointing having two trees of wasted space, one tree of questionable merit, and the reduced flamethrower effectiveness, but I **edit** you not, we're still head and shoulders above what we were when we were actually broken, and significantly ahead of some other professions even as things currently stand.



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JohboBocal
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:38 pm
#102






Lifylos wrote:





JustG wrote:


So apparently there as been a bit of discontent in here recently...


/understatement


Look, we are not trying to nerf your profession to hell. We don't think you are the uber profession. We know that your other weapons need to be made more useful. We know that you would like some answers to your questions.


We have a TON of things on our plate. Publish themes. Dungeons. Major system overhauls. CS Issues. QA Issues. Correspondent issues...


Thirty three professions, and some are broke all to hell. We want to fix them. All of them. But it takes time.


We really don;t have the bandwidth to be here on the boards, track down answers, and post them to everyone. We simply would never get ANYTHING done. But communication is necessary, and good... so we are trying to focus it where we can. Right now this is aimed squarely at the Droid Engineers. And even they would like more. We just can't do it. But we lurk like crazy. We do read what is going on, and understand how you feel. I really wish we had the time to communicate with everyone. But we do not.


I love commandos... I ground my way up to Master the old-fashioned way on Ahazi, and play one to this day. I cried when we nerf'ed the DOT's, but I think it was right for the game.



I ask for your patience. When will we get around to answering the questions? I honestly can't say for sure. I am sorry. But we are listening. Your correspondent is the numberone way into our plans.Thanks.


/salute


- g







I appreciate you taking the time to say this, but one thing youve got to understandis this. In the last patch you took a hack saw to our proffesion, against our warnings, and now everything we predicted has happened. And all we have gotten in response to our concerns is "watch and wait", and everytime we have Watechd and waited weve gotten screwed. I really do appreciate you coming here, and letting us know we still exist... But for most of us it isnt enough.






Ditto.


Plus our other weapons do not need to be made more useful, they need to work. Stop the bull**edit** and tell it like it is, THEY DON"T WORK!!






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JerikArca
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:09 pm
#103

Nicely put Just, and posts like these really help us (the community) understand what's joing on. I'm just upset the corporate executives pushed the devs to release the game before it was ready. I hope everyone understands that it's the people with the 6 figure salaries on the executive board at Sony who started this game off on the wrong foot not the devs.



"If we make enough of a fuss we might get the attention of the devs."
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Shadowdrindo
Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:55 pm
#104






Brikker-Sunrunner wrote:



Odd, wasn't letting me post anything for awhile there.


Anyhow,


Devs: You need to focus on FIXING the nearly-utterly broken classes in this game before you work on implementing pretty little Publish themes and new dungeons.








Agreed.

Why are so many professions broken in the first place? I mean, surely you devs didnt ignore the people saying the profession is broken.....right? Then how did so many professions end up broken?


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