Commando Archive

Thread: After reading the post on tomorrows Update, I had enough.. e' finito

Willie
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:40 am
#79






MobySlick wrote:
Willie someone should proof-read your posts for stupid accusations





Moby why don't you read his post again. There is no info there only the usual in the process answer, not any this will be fixed by this time, not any yes we're working on this, not anything except the most neutral answer you could give.


The only thing he really says is this:


"As far as testing on TC--yes, it's woefully underpopulated. The folks playing there are trying as hard as they can and doing a good job, but we'd love to see more of you over there so that stuff gets better testing and broader input. It's going to take more players on TC to make that happen."


Which basically translates to "well you guys aren't on TC testing so it's your fault we're not getting better and broader input"


Take off the rose-colored glasses and try again.





Jaric Mondoran - Ahazi - Commando Gimp Extraordinaire
Ma'elKoth - Flurry - Swordsman/Medic
O'rno - Shadowfire - Entertainer Extraordinaire

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King_Zeus
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:41 am
#80

"but we'd love to see more of you over there so that stuff gets better testing and broader input. It's going to take more players on TC to make that happen."


OMG, is that a joke? I have to log/relog over and over again to clear out bugs on Corbantis and you're asking me to PAY YOUwhile Itest this game? Give me a break, if you want a lot of testers on TC then you need to offer an incentive.




Vynn Slammer
The fattest Zabrak on Corbantis.
Why does nobody tip the fat male zabrak dancer?
Oruedin
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:44 am
#81

We'll be sorry to see you go, Gira. And, the Dev answer isn't the one I wanted to hear. We all know that. We know that hotfixes are for critical things, and patches, etc-- are for more important things.


Yes, not only Commando is broken. BE is too. But, instead of fixing the broken things they add more things that could or could not be broken. Yes, I've been a commando for quite some time now too, and it is quite frustrating that we can't level up.



Or exploit in our annoying little BH's posters case. Sure, let him rant and try to start things. For the most part, the folks who post on the Commando forum are pretty reasonable, and mature. It's nice to be a part of this community of folks from diff servs. There aren't many of us on my server, and if SOE wanted to limit their population to the die-hard folks (like us) then they did it! I mean, who else would put up with this? Not many.


But, before I surrender my points, I want to see if it's worth it. I'm going to wait for patch then start working my way up the trees. If anything, I'll report back to you all what *I* find after the patch goes live. If it's worthless, then I'll tell the truth. If it's nice, then I'll say so too.


So far though, I've had to rely on Pistoleer more than anything. Why? Because the rest is junk. But, we'll see.



Dev Note: Why don't we want to jump to the TC and start over? It probably took some peoplea month to get their character to commando. Why? They're casual gamers. Only die-hard people could become a commando within a week. They don't have the -time- nor the patience to do it all over again for something that may, or may not actually *work*. There's no enticement to do so. There's no real substantive reward for them other then beta testing a game they wished to play in the first place.


If you allowed them to transfer chars, and equipment-- perhaps they might do that. Or allow them to get free-equipment, or how about this.


Why don't you use your internal testing servers and drum up some commandos. Give them crappy weapons, and see how they fare. Use conductivity 400 / quality 400 resources, or maybe 200 on the 'rare' resouces and make their weapon with a puffed up MWS. Then go out and use the broken ones.


Test it yourself. Why make us pay to test it for you?


I'm getting tired of being asked to beta-test a game I'm paying to play. I know I sound like everyone else, but when you had to pay to get a graphics card fo play this game, then pay for the game, then be told the class you really want to play is broken and now they want *us* to fix it ourselves? It's rather, a irritation, wouldn't you say?


I mean, what if you went to get your car fixed, and the mechanic said to you 'well, why don't you take this manual and look and see what's wrong, then come tell me, and then I'll work on it.'


So, just wait folks. We'll see if Commando is worth it after tommorrow.


dopkick
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:48 am
#82

Commando won't be worth it tomorrow. It'll be AT LEAST another month.
Xahn
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:49 am
#83

Sorry you feel this way. We'll start looking for a replacement immediately.






Xahn
Assistant Producer, EQII

dopkick
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:53 am
#84



Xahn wrote:

Sorry you feel this way. We'll start looking for a replacement immediately.




I think there's some issues you need to address so the replacement doesn't also start feeling this way within a week.
MaDCoW8Me
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:59 am
#85

We dont need to join TC as most of the issues that need fixing are already on live.



Aipest Geera
CC Extraordinaire
HeDrums
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:02 am
#86

From Holocron: "As far as testing on TC--yes, it's woefully underpopulated. The folks playing there are trying as hard as they can and doing a good job, but we'd love to see more of you over there so that stuff gets better testing and broader input. It's going to take more players on TC to make that happen."


Here's the deal: I only have so much time to spend playing this game. I can't afford to put in effort developing a character in an environment with potential wipes. I imagine I'm not the only one that feels this way.


It was one thing in Beta when I paid zero: then I was willing to help test and put up with whatever happened; I reckoned it just came with the territory (the exchange was: I got to play for free, you got free testing). Now that you're taking my money, I have no interest whatsoever in doing a job that you should be paying me to do (test your code).


I'm somewhat surprised that anyone would play on Test Center, but some people just gotta have the latest and... greatest?

Kensar
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:06 am
#87

personally i suggest you guys take things like this to heart. this is going to happen to more and more people if things arent changed. garibaldi obviously cared alot about this game and its bull**edit** he quit b/c you guys dont listen. bottom line is commandos SUCK ASS.... they should have power on par with BH's if not more IMO. a player with pistol specialization should not be better than a commando. a broken profession should be TOP NOTCH on your fix list... IE HOTFIX.



-my 2 cents




Kensar Apaki - Bloodfin
Verhoffin
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:10 am
#88

IMO the cert fixes should not hve been that hard to fix.

Then again in beta cert fixes weren't exactly a quick thing either.......
FURY_Chaser
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:11 am
#89






Xahn wrote:

Sorry you feel this way. We'll start looking for a replacement immediately.








Hey Xahn, please do the same for Fencer
Rickap2
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:12 am
#90

I am saddened at the loss of our voice and I wish that thing did not have to be this way


I am also saddened that it took a resignation and quitting to draw the attention of Devolpment team to this area of the forums.


Iam glad to hear that you are already seeking someone to take the reigns of the new found empty position.


I would personally have much mroe respect and patience with the devlopment team if they didnt seek to replace our previous corresopndant, but seek to come to terms with him. Bringing him back even for just a month on a trial basis to improve the communication would show that the Dev team honestly seeks to have open dialouge with its community about its Live product.


I aways your current fixes, in hopes that I will begin to see the lguth at the end of the dark commando tunnel.




Galen Cox, Master Commando

Leader of The Storm Legion

Mos Espa Tatooine, Gorath
dopkick
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:15 am
#91



MaDCoW8Me wrote:
We dont need to join TC as most of the issues that need fixing are already on live.


Between this and your other post I have no doubt in my mind that you are the least qualified person to address commando problems.
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