Commando Archive
Thread: OK guys, we need a new correspondent.
The idea for pistoleers to be able to wield duel pistols and have holsters to draw their weapons out of for dueling purposes was actually thought up and designed by people from the pistoleer forum and their correspondent. Now the devs are taking it seriously and have stated that they are going to look into designing a system for this.
If the correspondent system didnt work, then how did that happen? Its not that they hate us, or that they want one of the classes in their game to be borked like we are. Thats bad publicity, and no one wants bad publicity. The devs have put their blood sweat and tears into this game for how long? Do you honestly think that they just want to throw it away? No, thereis something else going on here behind the scenes that we arent being told, and I think it would do wonders for the community if we could atleast get some answers.
All the suggestions in the world to fix this class wont do any good if we dont know why it seems we are being neglected. Maybe there is some huge problem with the system that we dont know about that SOE is too proud to admit to us. Is that the devs fault? Not necessarily, they are paid by SOE and have to do what SOE tells them. The fact of the matter is, we just dont know, thats why we need a correspondent. Someone needs to get some answers to keep hope alive around here because ranting has proven to do nothing but get ignored.
Cel, I definitely know where you're coming from, even completely agree. It's gone towards my decision to not renew. But like I said, we're a minority here on this message board. There's too many other commandos, and people training to become commandos, who don't post here or have any clue what's gone on here. SoE is not going to let us get in the way of their program just so we can honor war Ger did. I think he did probably the best thing he could to bring attention to this program, they looked horrible on the public boards, but further, Q's response today just furthered their public backlash. Even with that said, it's not our right to stop those who are going to stick around and play this game and this class from working with a correspondant.
Because of all this recent attention, it's going to force them to get it together and work out their problems. They're very fortunate so many people who play don't read these boards heh.
If you're going to stick around, the choice is to not work with the next correspondant, or work with him. But it's pretty certain SoE will put another replacement clone in here.
Giantt wrote:
The irony is I don't think they'd let us choose a new one anyway heh. This does seem to be all pretty much pointless given how they've picked the first time around.
Anyway I'm gone come the 27th - I've already canceled and unless I see some real results and an improvement in communication I won't be renewing. I can wait through a game's development as long as I have faith and trust in the development team. As long as I know the developers are listening, and interested in improving the game for the better, I can tolerate a bad game knowing it will get better. But when the developers break that trust as has happened here, I see no reason to sit around with my money going to them, so instead of actively working with us to fix the game, they're adding more classes such as politician and urban planners when what's in the game now is a mess. What I don't want to see is community relations managers posting a response that we already got 3 weeks ago that contradicts everything we've built on this board, including other communications with developers. That shows there's a breakdown in communication.
Giantt, thats exactly how I feel right now, and the point I was trying to make. The devs seem like they simoly do not care. And until they do it dont matter who the corespondent is. Im not flaming ANYONE except the devs who need to get off their butts and listen to their paying customers. Then and only then will what we say and do matter to them and that includes our corespondent.
Its kind of hard to come up with something original when you dont have any power to do so. One cant test the waters to see what he can and cant get away with unless he has the proper tools. Obviously Garibaldi was able to contact the devs through email, but which one? And what kind of dev was he? Surely they have devs in different levels, was he a low level guy with very little power to change anything, or a high level one?
Thats kind of like trying to tell people how you are going to break into a building that you have never seen. You arent going to be exactly sure how you are going to do it until you are provided with the information and tools you need to get the job done.
Nothing more can be done by anyone on top of what garibaldi has already done until that person is given the ability to make contact and a relationship of sorts with the dev in charge. We just need to get someone, and get someone, and it can be anyone who is going to stay in contact with the community here on the board.
I believe all of you are concerned with this class, if you werent, you wouldnt be here. We just need someone who is going to come here, and take all of your opinions into account, and figure out how in the world hes going to use his influence to get your word heard.
What my point of Garibladi is he didnt have to contact the devs though emails. They came to him after seeing many well thoguht out posts about our profession. You mention we need someone to "come here, and take all of your opinions into account, and figure out how in the world hes going to use his influence to get your word heard." This is exactly what Garibaldi did and was ingored, and this is exactly what we are pissed about. So to many, just having someone say "Hey im the corespondent they will listen to me" just doesnt hold any weight. If it did we wouldnt need a new corespondent now would we?
Faraed wrote:
Its kind of hard to come up with something original when you dont have any power to do so. One cant test the waters to see what he can and cant get away with unless he has the proper tools. Obviously Garibaldi was able to contact the devs through email, but which one? And what kind of dev was he? Surely they have devs in different levels, was he a low level guy with very little power to change anything, or a high level one?
Thats kind of like trying to tell people how you are going to break into a building that you have never seen. You arent going to be exactly sure how you are going to do it until you are provided with the information and tools you need to get the job done.
Nothing more can be done by anyone on top of what garibaldi has already done until that person is given the ability to make contact and a relationship of sorts with the dev in charge. We just need to get someone, and get someone, and it can be anyone who is going to stay in contact with the community here on the board.
I believe all of you are concerned with this class, if you werent, you wouldnt be here. We just need someone who is going to come here, and take all of your opinions into account, and figure out how in the world hes going to use his influence to get your word heard.
Hi there 'Tim from the Chef's board. Just thought I would drop by, since I was curious to see one of the classes that was worse off than mine.
All I can say is wow. You people need to get kind of a grip on things. Frankly you need a correspondent. If you honestly think you are better off without one.....well, thats delusional.
No offense to anyone here, but I think you might consider getting someone, and stop attacking the one or two people that are willing to take on a thankless job as it is.
Is it the fact that it's a combat profession that is making you all so aggressive to someone that just wants to help?
Granted, he probably has faults but at least he's willing to go to bat for you all.
I mean with us its pretty much a board meeting with suggestions being tossed back and forth till we come to a concensus.
Seriously people think about what you are doing to your class by not being at least civil to each other.
Any my two biscuits as a impartial bystander..
'Tim Wookiee Chef
Starsider
Jedi Chef-in-Training
Yeah, the game isnt finished, not even close. And most will argue that the game is not in a release quality state, I agree. Unfortunately this is how the corporate world works, and nothing can be done about that now. We wont get a refund, ever, SOE has us by the balls and they know it. The only thing we can do is try to help.
Id start off by emailing. Sure its been done, and again, and again, and again. But its got to start somewhere. Maybe my requests for answers will get ignored over and over and over again. Or maybe they wont. Maybe I can present a good case to them with your guys help that they will actually start answering some questions and throwing us some bones so to speak and we can build from there. Not I, but we. Im not going to do it alone, I would need your guys help about the best way to approach things as things go along. At this point, everything is a long shot, but no long shot ever won without entering the race.
Lets just get someone whos willing to do the job and keep the ENTIRE community involved in the whole process elected. Im just saying im willing to do it, and im stubborn enough to keep trying in the face of adversity. Personally Celtic, im beginning to favor your ability to do the job based on your stubborness as well, you are still here with me.
We dont need some great leader to take care of this for us. We just need someone stubborn enough and political enough to get through to them with the ideals of the community, not the ideals of the 1 individual. We are commandos, we are screwed, we should unite and work together as a team. But we need an appointed spokesperson.
Who are we going to get the authority to talk to the devs? It can be me, or it can be someone else. Regardless, im going to be here to provide input for that person, firepower so to speak to use with the devs. I would expect no less from anyone else on this forum who wants to see some fixes.
Faraed wrote:
Lets just get someone whos willing to do the job and keep the ENTIRE community involved in the whole process elected. Im just saying im willing to do it, and im stubborn enough to keep trying in the face of adversity. Personally Celtic, im beginning to favor your ability to do the job based on your stubborness as well, you are still here with me.
We dont need some great leader to take care of this for us. We just need someone stubborn enough and political enough to get through to them with the ideals of the community, not the ideals of the 1 individual. We are commandos, we are screwed, we should unite and work together as a team. But we need an appointed spokesperson.
Who are we going to get the authority to talk to the devs? It can be me, or it can be someone else. Regardless, im going to be here to provide input for that person, firepower so to speak to use with the devs. I would expect no less from anyone else on this forum who wants to see some fixes.
Me? Now I know you are a crackhead lol.
I wouldn't take this unpaid job if they offered me an FS slot unlocked, or even $1000. Maybe $1001 but hey thats a different story. With that extra dollar i can call my mom...wait...no thats what 1-800-collect is for.
Anyway, no offense but like I said I dont think either of us is qualified for the position. However if someone else actually got the **edit** devs attention and offered some orginal advice or perhaps sent an envolope filled with powdered sugarto them with ANTHRAX typed in big bold red letters to scare the hell out of them **edit** devs to get their freaking attention then perhaps I would be more then willing to say hey this is the man for the job.
DakarCM wrote:
Hi there 'Tim from the Chef's board. Just thought I would drop by, since I was curious to see one of the classes that was worse off than mine.
'Tim Wookiee Chef
Starsider
Jedi Chef-in-Training
All chefs are EVIL and should never be trusted. BEGONE from our precious comamndo forums evil chef, I know your real name is Pierre.
Pierre the evil master chef that is out ot destroy all commandos with his sliced salad tongs of commando slaying. You cant fool me.
Well, im in my office right now and I have some envelopes, stamps and a red sharpiehere and I think I have some sugar in the kitchen.
TO : SOE nerfed commando division
Whats that street address again?
We've been one of the more calm classes considered how bad we've been, but when we lost Gar and have been ignored for this long things started to break down. Up till about 3 days ago I'd say we've kept our posts off the main board and isolated here - but when Gar quit more and more people started paying attention, and now posting to the main board. Right now we're without focus and just upset and what's going on. We can tolerate the class being in bad shape, for a while - what crosses the line is being told it's working as intended by a developer who believes this class is super-powered with high damaged weapons meant to be rare because of how insane they are. Our numbers and tests have proven these weapons are nothing more than a joke, so the response was basically a slap in the face.
It gets worse when you consider the responses other classes were given, they're thinking of giving pistoleers dual weidling for 2 guns? The -definitive- high powered class is going to be given more while commandos are told "Welp, Working as intended, you guys are uber as is!"
That crosses the line.
