Commando Archive

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cybersword26 wrote:

I just find it disappointing that starnick and garvin defend the actions SOE in one hand and say they are not on the other. Let me explain anytime you make excuses for Th or try to redefine their statements are DEFENDING THEIR ACTIONS. If TH word is not good enough then why is SOE giving him a paycheck. Tyrant's word ( the man in charge according to you guys) is just about as worthless. Lets review the CU info the devs have given for one sec: new pictures of armors and new pictures of weapons ALL EYE CANDY. And just a little bit of details that ap will be gone and ranged weapons will have 3 settings. Hmmmmmmm........ THAT TELLS JACK CRAP ABOUT COMBAT, combat roles , skills , ham , buffs or anything that really matters. Take one liitle second to realize that unlike you don't have access to the cu forums and know nothing and have been told nothing. I've been paying this game now since 2 weeks after launch like alot of people me want to know WHATS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE CU. and we want to know when they are oing to start testing it........ now since its march and there is no testing no info.................... unless of course you count the pretty pictures. INFO , INFO thats what we want. We pay to play this game and we want to know when they are going to fix combat ( its not an upgrade its an way overdue fix ) we are sick and tired of paying to play a beta.

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garvin wrote:

Don't discount what they've already shared with us...Awhile back I got into a huge arguement with a dev regarding communication...I told him that giving players even a little taste will make them happy...He responded with "give them a little and they'll just want more...they'll even disregard what we already shared and flame us worse then before"...more and more, people are making me look wrong and that dev look right...The more they share, the more people expect from them, and when they don't deliever, for what ever reason, they get flamed...

Message Edited by garvin on 03-04-2005 03:47 PM

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Pigag

Up and coming forum pvper.... but not high enough level anymore.

Cancelled.

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Latenighter wrote:
This is completely unacceptable.

SOE even has to delay an announcement on a delay?

Anything to share Stern?

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If you read into TH's posts, right now he is delayed in announcing the delay that he said he was going to announce last week. Or the week before. I am rather confused. Basically, he is delaying announcing the announcement of the delays. Or...something (brain explodes)

Also, the FF that he promised to fencers last week has been delayed until next week. When I posted that he had made the same promise to Commandos over 6 months ago, it was promptly deleted.

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TwilekKilla wrote:

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cybersword26 wrote:

I just find it disappointing that starnick and garvin defend the actions SOE in one hand and say they are not on the other. Let me explain anytime you make excuses for Th or try to redefine their statements are DEFENDING THEIR ACTIONS. If TH word is not good enough then why is SOE giving him a paycheck. Tyrant's word ( the man in charge according to you guys) is just about as worthless. Lets review the CU info the devs have given for one sec: new pictures of armors and new pictures of weapons ALL EYE CANDY. And just a little bit of details that ap will be gone and ranged weapons will have 3 settings. Hmmmmmmm........ THAT TELLS JACK CRAP ABOUT COMBAT, combat roles , skills , ham , buffs or anything that really matters. Take one liitle second to realize that unlike you don't have access to the cu forums and know nothing and have been told nothing. I've been paying this game now since 2 weeks after launch like alot of people me want to know WHATS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE CU. and we want to know when they are oing to start testing it........ now since its march and there is no testing no info.................... unless of course you count the pretty pictures. INFO , INFO thats what we want. We pay to play this game and we want to know when they are going to fix combat ( its not an upgrade its an way overdue fix ) we are sick and tired of paying to play a beta.

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And we wonder why they stay silent......
It's this kind of flaming that the devs stay silent, they give info, and it isn't enough, or not what you wanted. TH is a guy that relays what the Devs are saying, and, sadly, as much as he wants to talk, and garvin, and Starnick, he cannot. Look, if your so pissed about the devs, and the game, try something else, maybe WoW. And if you so sick of playing a beta, then wait for them to realease the finished version, and not another beta

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Again we have the customer base to blame for the devssilence? I don't think so. They are silent because they choose to be silent. They are not getting flamed because they release info thats absurd they are getting flamed because we are approaching the 2 year anniversary and people are getting tired of waiting. You may think they have no right to be frustrated but thats the case.I'm sick of i being treated like a second rate customer like my $15 dollars a month is not worth as much as someone elses$15 month and obviously Atix and some others feel the same way Including Gamespy magazines where the infamous CU made it on their top 20 worse gaming moves last year. We may be the minority, I don't know if thats true or not and honestly I don't care.Iam not MMO gamer I'm a Starwars fan so for me WoW EQ2 or anything else is certainly not a solution.I will voice my dissention and will have voiced itand I hope Atix and all the rest who are getting tired of SOE's silence and games and getting sick of "better than you" communiy members telling them if you don't like it quit will raise their voices and get SOE to deliver on what they have said. We have waited long enough it is time for information not a cpl little pictures but real information. At this point the fight will have to be carried on by someone else for i'm tired of fighting I'm tired of being told of have no rigth to expect SOE to do what it says it will do or to follow up on what it has said. I'll be slowy grinding up my alt to commando when i get that far but as for Novock he's laying is flamer down and going for a glow stick. It seems thats what SOE wants everyone to be a Jedi so why fight it anymore. Good luck to you all maybe the CU will fix our beloved proffession sometime.... lol .... soon.

Message Edited by Novock on 03-05-2005 09:19 AM

Message Edited by Novock on 03-05-2005 09:24 AM

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Obo_alCan wrote:
Not to start the rumour mill again, but do you think this, if true, may have had an impact on the delays?

Gordon Walton Leaves SOE

I’d imagine SirBruce’s sources are reliable. He has connections to the industry and is the one who runs http://www.mmogchart.com.
Perhaps Raph or Calandryll might confirm or deny it over the weekend, as they post to that site.

The announcements we are waiting for, CU and I assume the next expansion, would need approval by the Studio Manager, and they might be waiting to fill the position again perhaps?

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