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Thread: grenade question

Caelrie
Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:25 am
#27

So you use no healing, no buffs, no food...


You're either a liar or you don't actually do any combat. Either way, you're not qualifed to speak about XPing as a commando.
Nicko_
Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:35 am
#28

Erf

I almost never buff, ok, I use brandy.

I cap my hw xp every time I put a foot on the ground.

I confess, I'm CH as well (from after both nerf if you care to know) brandy is just so I can heal my pets.

I'd like to know who you are. Comming in every thread here and trolling without any understanding of the pro and cons of this profession.

Message Edited by Nicko_ on 12-02-2004 12:36 PM

Caelrie
Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:19 pm
#29






BorgXan wrote:



Haha. As far as I'm concerned, Ryu IS the commando Profession.... or at least he has the best interest of the profession in mind. I will stand by ANYTHING he has to say. As far as XP is concerned, however (and not related to grendades) very few people actually understand how XP or loot rights for commandos are calculated. I have a few theoreis, but it's not the gospel truth. I too am ubelievably frustrated with the FS grinders using the commando proffesion. I too have dropped my Master Commando title in favor of my TKM title... just to keep the fs grinders away. Caelrie, you're being base, ignorant, and 'playing stupid' just to piss the rest of us off. You understand very well what we're saying, so posting otherwise is a flat-out lie. Using stimpacks as a medic is not taking advantage of the profession. Using grenades as a commando to grind FS is taking advantage of Commando.




Ahh, so you're another one who believes he's special and his actionsusing parts ofanother profession have no fault. There seem to be a lot of you types here, eh?


Lemme guess, you also picked up stuff like meditate and feign death like the other hypocrites here?


BorgXan
Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:09 pm
#30


Why yes, I am special... but I'm also technically a TRIPLE master. Marksman, Commando, and Teras Kasi. In case you can't add, that leaves me with 18 skill points, which I've allocated to Novice Scout and Hunting I to gather meat for our guild BE. So I suppose you could say I don't dabble. Also, 'dabbling' as it is defined in here is not using partial skills to compliment your main profession. Master Commandos that have feign death and meditation are not dabblers, they are commandos with good support skills. However, the Swordsman that grabs Commando for grenades to grind FS is dabbling. Commando grenades can in no logical way 'support' a swordsman role, while feign death and meditation CAN support a commando and his trusty flamethrower. Figured I'd just clear that up once and for all, because you're obviously reading only what you WANT from others' posts.



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Nicko_
Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:05 am
#31

Funny, I dug a little around to see what caelrie is speaking about, generaly.

Well... don't feed the troll, yes, but this one has a huge apetite.
And She like to ask things, but not to answer.

By the way, am I using my pets as I'm CH?
I can't be Mcommando and MCH, so I go for MCH/Commando 4/0/4/0 right now, leaving me with 4 points, no way to use thoses.

Caelrie, just to be clear :
Commando is screwed right now.
One weapon worth the while.
One branch truly usefull (for a commando)
For quite a time now we have been the laughing stock of combat proff along with BH, for the same reasons (lol I own U), having to dabble (and TK being one of the most obvious choice)

Now you see some guy saying : you drop your combat prof to get commando so you can grind.
Ok, so commando is not a combat prof? That's when we start screeming.
That's when we start feeling like we are being "used".

But, as we are not a troll company, we screem here, in our place, not in the face of this guy who probably didn't mean it so bad.

Now take a look at those you came and spit on : here for much longer than you are, understanding the situation, and constructing answer.

Tell us what you understand about this prof, tell us if you did anything else than grind it in 2 days on sologroup mission then drop it.
Else, just go back to the oblivion you deserve.

Message Edited by Nicko_ on 12-03-2004 10:07 AM

Ecnirp
Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:54 am
#32


Can you feel the love!


I am a Master Pistoleer who got Novice Commandofor the Launcher Pistol cert- However I do occasionally use grenades to boost my Combat XP for my FS grind... when I feel like standing still for 20 mins hitting my F keys....


Am I a bad man?

Message Edited by Ecnirp on 12-03-2004 11:54 AM

Nicko_
Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:43 am
#33

What we mean is not : using grenades is bad.

It's getting commando only so you can use grenades that is starting to be a pain.
We are nerrfed enough as it is.

If some jedi wanabee start "exploiting" this, we are on a path for more nerf.
If the dev agree that this is some kind of legal exploit (like sologrouping was) it'll be nerfed.
Not changed, nerfed.

Some nerf are possible :
You get heavy weapon xp, well,... stupid, but why not
You get thrown wepon xp,(and so you need to use it somewhere, like in one branch or another) right now, this would make almost every commando surrend or cancel.
You are capped at so many xp with thrown weapon : the most likely.

Any benefits?
The grinders will change their class to rifleman or TK (at least that's two prof that seems quite popular)
And the stupid ones will be us, and any complaint from us will be met by something like :
"Yeah, but you can't think about just yourself"
or
"This will be adressed in the futur, soon, we promise"

Hell the HAR is to be fixed soon,... since last snow in hell.
Ryubushi
Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:10 pm
#34






BorgXan wrote:





Caelrie wrote:





Ryubushi wrote:

When these people ask us how they can best exploit us to get what they want (Jedi), they're using us.






Exploit YOU? What, are they asking you to throw the grenades for them? I think you have issues here. You are A commando, not THE COMMANDO PROFESSION.







Using afore-mentioned tactic is using the profession.





And using a stimpack is "using the profession" with regards to medic. I fail to see your point at all. Explain to me how it's different.







Haha. As far as I'm concerned, Ryu IS the commando Profession.... or at least he has the best interest of the profession in mind. I will stand by ANYTHING he has to say. As far as XP is concerned, however (and not related to grendades) very few people actually understand how XP or loot rights for commandos are calculated. I have a few theoreis, but it's not the gospel truth. I too am ubelievably frustrated with the FS grinders using the commando proffesion. I too have dropped my Master Commando title in favor of my TKM title... just to keep the fs grinders away. Caelrie, you're being base, ignorant, and 'playing stupid' just to piss the rest of us off. You understand very well what we're saying, so posting otherwise is a flat-out lie. Using stimpacks as a medic is not taking advantage of the profession. Using grenades as a commando to grind FS is taking advantage of Commando. We KNOW that you understand what we're saying, you're simply trolling around. I would not normally even respond to such bottom-feeders as yourself, but when you start throwing personal insults at Ryubushi (a player that I have immense respect for), you begin to annoy me. That is your right... and It's also my right to call you out for the scum sucking troll that you are.








In all seriousness and honesty, thank you.


I've been drifting around the net for bout 8 years (I suppose it's about 8...I'm rather bad with keeping track of years), from dark corner to dark corner. Been admin on a few chat servers, been a regular user, and a true troll veryrarely. In that time, I have made a lot of enemies, many of whom probably still curse me.


Very rarely have I seen comments like that about me, and I am truly honored when they do occur, such as now.


And to boot, this has been the week from Hell for me; it's Thursday night/Friday morning, and I've just finished working 40.25 hours. I've got 8 hours on both Friday and Saturday evening, too, and won't get off til 11 at night (probably more than 8 Saturday; my boss isn't going to be there, so it'll fall to me to stay late and finish out everything in the system). Then Iget to turn around and do another 10 hours every day from Sunday til Friday morning (all of this on top of going to college every day, with final exams for the semester coming next week).


BorgXan, you have honestly brightened my dreary week.


Thank you.





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tvacnaar
Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:01 am
#35

Well I will admit that tossing grenades is fun, but expensive. I had commando for a short while but at the time was not a tkm and didn't like that my specials missed 90% of the time and that I had to be in close quarters just to use my specials. I decided that even in a solo grp heavy weapon takes too long to grind so I gave up on commando. Not that I have ill-will towards commandos I just didn't like the way the proffession works.


Now I will admit once I got glowy I did go back and grind up for the combat xp but I don't see myself as exploiting the profession since I always did think the best thing about commando was the grenades.


So if you think I am abusing your profession I will stop I dont intend to abuse anyone.



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Ciredor
Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:05 pm
#36

You know, I popped on here to check for a guildie if there was any news about the rumor of a grenade nerf and as I first read this thread, I thought some of the commandos were getting too upset about being "used". Then I thought about it for a minute...


My friend is a Master CH and since the solo group nerf, she gets pestered every time she groups up with her animals for invites to her group and people don't take "no" for an answer. They very much would like to "use" her CH abilities for their own gain and it bothers her as well, since that is something she worked hard on for herself. So I can see why this grenade grind upsets the commando folks, especially since people who have no intention of keeping the profession may very well be altering it for you.


On behalf of the FS grinders, I apologize and I'll spread the word through my guild about your feelings on this matter.




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Darth_Toast1018
Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:31 pm
#37

Ok, this got a little off-topic. But aye, I'd be pissed if my proffesion was being used for FS. But Commando > All. I remember my noob days back in Anchorhead, and whenever I ran into something too uber for my 2nd box in pistols, there was always a Commando there to bail me out with a flamethrower. Cheers



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esbiehl
Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:18 am
#38

What is the powerup you used to get higher damage to kill the lairs.



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TheBigDogWalker
Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:35 am
#39

Grenades have their own power-ups, usually will increase max damage and radius. You can most likelypurchase them from your grenade provider...



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