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Thread: Today I hit for 14227 with flame single 2

Deadbeat99
Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:39 am
#27

I don't think the damage reported in the combat window is accurate either. It just doesnt correspont to the actual damage you see come off the enemy's HAM bars. Its something like the damage before things like armor and resists are facotred in.


Watch the damage numbers above the mob's head, not the combat window.


Aasch
Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:36 am
#28

Hmmm...OK have been though this before here but I supposed I cna post it again...


yes I do sometimes get hits for around 10k damage wiht flame 2...these are max damage hits and yes it is possible that we are getting reported to the server as melee damage and therfor getting 14k hits. If so it will be fixed some time....but...


Last time I checked though if some one is holding a rifle you get 2.5x the damage. When I used one of the old cryoban gernades on rifle using oponents I got about 1000+ damage from a gernade that was 310 damage or so max. If you do the math that is about consistant with a "melee" hit on a rifle using oponent (yes gernades count as melee...or at least used to...have not used them since the patch as i love my flamer too much...). So if the damage were really counting as melee damage from a flamer shouldn't it be higher? We are looking in PvE at abouta 2.5 modifier for rifle use. No idea what prone give you but I know it is more even. So should be a streight 2.5x modifier about total right? Or did I mess that up some how?


My curent flamer is only about an 890 damage. I hit for around 7500 damage average with flame 2 on things like Bantha that are not using a rifle.So taking into acount the 2x modifier for that being PvE... it should be around 3800 damage base for flame 2 hit. Once again this is working off my undrstanding of hte system... correct me if i am wrong.7500 x2.5 is around 18750. Now I know I don't hit for this even close ever even if they are using a rifle...10k is about max and that sure doesn't account for the rifle modifier the way I understand it... and that is with an exceptional hit.


Does this make sense?...if I messed up a figure let me know casue i am jsut sort of winging it becuase i have this feeling that if it is reallly that we are counted as melee damage all the time we should be doing more. I could be mistaken.


And yes i know it says "swings" when we take a shot but...it doesn't feel liek the math adds up. Someone prove me wrong here.


Could it be some other bug at work?



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Xytroncore
Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:48 am
#29

well cryoban grenades are AR1 so that may be why you're getting 1000 damage and not the listed value of 300 or so (yet the math doesn't exactly work out, but that is a contributor none the less)



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Maabus1999
Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:03 am
#30

Accuracy is also a factor in damage calculations. Highest hit I've seen with another Commando was when a friend of mine used a HPC on a rifle user, 26K hit, and that was exactly at ideal range. If not at ideal range came out around 20K (on rifle users)a hit....and he went through, oh about 150+ shots of this since he constantly makes crates of them.


That is why you can't use max dmg times the modifer to get max possible dmg on a zero resist mob, little bit more in depth.


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fleetbuilder
Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:39 pm
#31

i am a master commando on radiant personally i think the damage we do outside of pvp is fine without being able to use knockdown most mission would be impossible without heavy damage if they want to do something about dam in pvp hey i completely understand but even as master i miss so much it isn't funny i have missed flame single2 i think up to 4 times in a row and without a medic there i am dead and i even have good composite armor on and those stormtroopes tear me apart yea my average dam is about 6k or lower but this is very nessacarry since without knockdown the only way to survive is kill the npc quick



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