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Thread: Plasma thrower look

Palad
Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:27 pm
#27






Tapoh wrote:


I was thinking maybe for the plasma thrower, it could have a different gun look and actually change the look of your pack to that of a napalm tank or in this case a plasma tank, and add a tube running from the pack to the gun. So it would look more like a real flame/plasma thrower rather then a gun with a tiny tank on the bottom. It would be a temporary skin to the backpack (or maybe they could add the plasma tank pack as a new backpack type) while the gun is equiped.


And this gives me an idea, I really like the idea of having a plasma tank on all the time that doubles as a back pack. And also perhaps a perminent little flame in the front of the flame thower that glows slightly.


Here's the problem with that statement...Plasma (in this case)is energy. It's like the plasma in the sun or in a fusion reactor. Not your blood plasma. It is not like naplam or liquid petro. The backpack idea will only work for the stock flammer not a plasma rifle.


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Well maybe for the flame thrower we could have a tank on our backs, and maybe for the plasma rifle you could have a nuclear generator of sorts on your back. And I have yet to see what star wars classifies plasma, it may be a liquid energy of types or something like that. so a tank isnt 100% out of the question.




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JoKen_Jash
Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:58 pm
#28






Tapoh wrote:


I was thinking maybe for the plasma thrower, it could have a different gun look and actually change the look of your pack to that of a napalm tank or in this case a plasma tank, and add a tube running from the pack to the gun. So it would look more like a real flame/plasma thrower rather then a gun with a tiny tank on the bottom. It would be a temporary skin to the backpack (or maybe they could add the plasma tank pack as a new backpack type) while the gun is equiped.


And this gives me an idea, I really like the idea of having a plasma tank on all the time that doubles as a back pack. And also perhaps a perminent little flame in the front of the flame thower that glows slightly.


Here's the problem with that statement...Plasma (in this case)is energy. It's like the plasma in the sun or in a fusion reactor. Not your blood plasma. It is not like naplam or liquid petro. The backpack idea will only work for the stock flammer not a plasma rifle.


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Um... forgive me if I go intellectual on you, but, plasma isn't energy... it's the fourth state of matter, higher than a gas. In a plasma state, matter is in a gaseous form, and electrons flow freely inside the matter cloud. Matter in this state is used in fusion reactions, like in a star.


Anyway, a backpack *could* hold something like this, except for the fact that plasma is exremely hot. And personally I don't like the idea of having a traditional backpack flamethrower either. I think something bulkier with a sort of shieldedemitter (so you don't get any plasma bleed off hitting you). Possibly with a visible tank on it.




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Tapoh
Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:08 pm
#29

Um... forgive me if I go intellectual on you, but, plasma isn't energy... it's the fourth state of matter, higher than a gas. In a plasma state, matter is in a gaseous form, and electrons flow freely inside the matter cloud. Matter in this state is used in fusion reactions, like in a star.


Um 2 things. One I said like a fusion reactor or a star (think the Doc Ock experiment in Spiderman2) and plasma is a state as matter transforms from itself into energy. It is not a gaseous form like you said. You contricted yourself. In fact lighsabers are a form of controled plasma. An energy field keeps the plasma in the shape until it contacts something. The Plasma then "leaks" into the contacting matter. That's why they humm...they're are burning the air around them. Similar to the Arc wielders they use for the sound effect for said lightsaber. All a plasma rifle would need would be a combustion chamber and a source of fuel. This fuel would be in a solid state. they're would be no need for a backpack container but i owuld imagine that it would be a BIG gun.


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JoKen_Jash
Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:28 pm
#30






Tapoh wrote:

Um... forgive me if I go intellectual on you, but, plasma isn't energy... it's the fourth state of matter, higher than a gas. In a plasma state, matter is in a gaseous form, and electrons flow freely inside the matter cloud. Matter in this state is used in fusion reactions, like in a star.


Um 2 things. One I said like a fusion reactor or a star (think the Doc Ock experiment in Spiderman2) and plasma is a state as matter transforms from itself into energy. It is not a gaseous form like you said. You contricted yourself. In fact lighsabers are a form of controled plasma. An energy field keeps the plasma in the shape until it contacts something. The Plasma then "leaks" into the contacting matter. That's why they humm...they're are burning the air around them. Similar to the Arc wielders they use for the sound effect for said lightsaber. All a plasma rifle would need would be a combustion chamber and a source of fuel. This fuel would be in a solid state. they're would be no need for a backpack container but i owuld imagine that it would be a BIG gun.


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Uh, no... Plasma is a state of matter:






Definitions of Plasma on the Web:



  • One of the four states of matter. (The other three are solid liquid and gas.) Consists of a gas of positively charged and negatively charges particles with approximately equal concentrations of both so that the total gas in approximately charge neutral. A plasma can be produced from a gas if enough energy is added to cause the electrically neutral atoms of the gas to split into positively and negatively charged atoms and electrons.
    stargazer.gsfc.nasa.gov/epo/jsp/dictionary.jsp






That's from a google search "what is plasma". Also check plasmas.org.



Anyway, we're getting off topic here. As I said above, something bigger and bulkier, with possibly a visible tank and shielded emitter would look cool.




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WinstonX
Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:20 am
#31


Well....

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the plasma FT just going to be the conversion of the FT's we have now and the regular FT post-cu is going to be a weaker, new weapon? seems like there would be conversion issues if they changed the look of the plasma.
CortezYoungblud
Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:35 am
#32

Regardless, one is still plasma flamethrower, one the regular flamethrower. They are two different weapons, two different dmg lvl's so they should look different too.
granted it would be fun to run around tatooine and other newb areas and pretend like my uber plasma is a regular ft (have them storm the weaponsmiths lol) but I just don't think it would be that tough.
If you want me to I'll come up with some ideas for you SOE, just drawings and sketches and such, then you won't have to spend so much time worrying about it, just draw it.
Seriah-EH
Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:56 am
#33

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=234369


my new pic i got bored and threw togather while i waited for the server to come back up




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DevilMan80
Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:42 am
#34

Wow a nice canister under the weapon... It's really a new style



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