Commando Archive

Personally i aint laughing at pistoleers for anything. Heck, what is the point of having a 2.5x melee modifier if every ranged combat class has it applied to them, why not just give all the melee players 2.5x damage instead, same result.. oh yeah even better.. why not actually let them attack while moving too hehe.

To Mikkael or whateverthef&*k your name is, we aint complaining about any other class here, we're merely saying all ths frickin nerfing has to stop, cause you know what, Carbineer is bugged as hell and they'll still find a way to nerf you.

The changes on the TC are promising, I like seeing Masters Get a defensive bonus, personally I'm working on TK and so hopefully I'll be able to combine both defenses... til they probably find some reason to nerf that too...

Gairon Absolam

Master Commando

There are in fact no ranged professions where all their specials have to be used within 16m. Commandos have specials in their tree that do not have 16m restrictions.

Let me go one step farther...for education purposes...I'll list out all of the Commando Specials:

Flame1, Flamecone1, Flame2, Flamecode2, Acidstream1, Acidcone1, Acidstream2, Acidcode2...that's all of them...and all of them can only be used at 16m or less...We also have Heavy Rocket Launchers (no specials & expendable)...Heavy Proton Cannons (no specials & expendable)....Heavy Acid Cannons (no specials & expendable)...

Do I really need to go on...probably not....

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deadnewbie wrote:

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1) Name one other ranged profession where ALL of their specials have to be used within 16m....

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There are in fact no ranged professions where all their specials have to be used within 16m. Commandos have specials in their tree that do not have 16m restrictions.

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*coughs*

No comment.

I've read your posts perfectly...What you are asking for is, no matter where anyone puts their skill points, they shouldn't have an advantage of ANYONE else...especially when it comes to the chance of One-Shots....

I asked for a specific example...you mentioned you have tons...give me one!!! What type of armor was the person wearing...where they buff'd...did they have low mind stats...were they Melee, Ranged, Chef, what? I'll give you an example...I one-shot player before...it was a melee swordsman...they came at me with no armor on at all...the outcome was pretty much decided by that...and the outcome (one-shot) was exactly what should have happened...we both laughed about it later...In all my battles with folks with reasonable armor (anything above bone typcially) I've never had a one-shot kill...

You have been saying your were a Master Commando...was that before or after the Stealth Nerf recently? If you gave it up before the nerf, then you can't back up what your talking about since it's a whole new ballgame...When you fought other range professions you did 2.5x the damage and when you fought Melee fighters they had no advantage over you...if it was just recently (within the last couple of weeks) that you dropped Master Commando, then I would love to know your strategy because if I could one-shot every opponent that would be great...but as it stands I can't unless there are obvious reasons for it...

Before the Stealth Nerf a couple of weeks ago we did have a "crapload" of Bounty Hunters and Commandos running around...still do in some parts...but since then a huge number of Commandos have jumped ship and gone to the new flavor of the month...Any reasonable Commando will tell you that before the last Nerf we were way to over-powered...we were considered Melee Class which meant we did 2.5x damage to any Range opponent...Before we started asking the Dev's to make things fair, the Dev's said they were happy with Commandos the way there are (we actually pushed the issue)....wecontinuely asked the Dev's to remove that penalty since it was very unfair....we were one-shot killing any ranged fighter right a left...and the Dev's removed it with the Stealth Nerf (which they admit was a stealth nerf) but at the same time they made us victim to it...Our own effort to make things fair backfired on us...

Currently most commandos are dropping all but the flame tree and investing in other professions like CH or even BH...I'm holding out hope....On the Test Server there are some Major changes coming to the Master Level of Commando...+25 Melee Defense is one of them...combined with a TKA tree that can be boosted up to +60...this will cancel out the 2.5x melee damage bonus and make things better...We won't do the 2.5x bonus to other's and they won't do it to us...We'll still have a "uber" weapon in the Flame Thrower, but we'll still have to get close to use it...and since it won't do the 2.5x damage bonus to Range professions, there won't be that many "one-shot" kills as before the last Nerf...

This game is not about being fair...it's about strategy...knowing where to invest your skill points based on what type of player you want to be...if you want to be a pro PvP, BH is probably current the best route...if you want to be a god at PvE, Commando with some CH is an extremely good choice...Many will argue on what's the best route...On the otherside, Commando is a stupid way to go for PvP as it sits now since we are so easily kill'able....If everything was totally "fair" as you are putting it...that nobody was able to have a one-shot advantage against anyone (that includes people out of armor, with no ranged defense, etc) then why the Hell would any combat player get a Master level...what would be the point of any grinding to better your character...you could just pick and choose any skill and know you'll be just as good...

You awful good at complaining...now let me give you some homework...come up with a solution to the one-shot diliemma...we'll use BH for this project...Take their LLC...would you nerf it down in power? How would you keep players willing to get to the Master level? Would you take away their specials that are used in the occasional one-shot? Would you Nerf the whole profession so it's on the same level as a non-hybrid profession? and if so, how would you justify that to be a Bounty hunter you have to Master 2 other professions first? What would be the point of working on the LLC tree if a BH can do just as much damage with a Scatter Pistol...and for that matter, why not just go to the point of getting a nice mind shot...I'll assist you on the solution you are heading towards (whether you realize it or not), a major damage reduction to all weapons throughout the game for all professions...that way nobody can one-shot anyone (because no weapon has that much power)...personally this would make the game exremely annoying since the advantage would go to the creatures we hunt...we'd all do less damage.

You keep stating the same thing over and over with no substancial additions "No profession should be able to one-shot anyone"...Why not? Should a novice player with little or no skills, no armor, etc be able to stand toe to toe with anyone no matter their level? Or should the fact that I've master my profession mean I have a major advantage over you...and in turn, by the numbers, one-shot that novice....

There is no need to repeat yourself over and over...We've heard your statement and it lacks and argurement....I've responded to that one statement over and over and moved on...if you want to continue, join me up ahead...

We really mustnt laugh or chide our pistoleer friends. They have been extremely helpful to me on these forums and i think its unfortunate that they are about to get hit as we did. They have welcomed me - fully knowing i was a commando by blood, never held it against me in any way - and always gave me great advice - in the forums and in game.

I think there are a few ways to look at this:

1: just on more proffesion to get nerfed - although - thats one more proff on our side to petition these crazy nerfs

2: pretty soon - TKA is gonna feel some heat - simply due to the fact that there isnt gonna be anyone left to nerf - hehe

3: The devs are going to be eventually flooded with complaints if they cont to attack different proffessions like this - the rants are going to increase to all but unignorable level. - which helps our cause.

So pistoleers - misery loves company, welcome to our house - your always welcome