Commando Archive

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Xenothaulus wrote:

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Raptor2k1 wrote:
Unless you take up another elite combat profession, our marksman skills do squat though (DX2 for example is a pistoleer only gun.)

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Yes, I have n.pistoleer and the speed branch. But saying our marksman skills do squat is wrong. We have mindshot, headshot, actionshot, legshot, healthshot and bodyshots. We have fullsingleauto, roll shot, suppression fire and warningshot. I use all of these in PvE, in addition to flamecones and flamesingles and knockdowns. I even use intimidate and warcry quite frequently.

I can solo anything up to graul maulers and equivalents, and maybe higher too (haven't tried yet,) using those tactics. I am currently working on n.tk and n.rifleman for some more defensive mods, defensive acuity and flurryshot so I can combine that with supressionfire.

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What hes saying is in PvP it really is worthless cause we dont have the accuracy to hit most elite professions.

And Marvin, I dont know what craapy armor your getting but I just got some that has 80% base across the board with stun pannels, thats typical serious PvP armor from what I've seen, then he didnt even mention a possible 30% PSG so I think the numbers are quite realistic and with that damage on our specials will typically be 14 seconds in between for that FT. A T21 is more damaging per second without specials.

Oh and I forgot to mention, while several people dont always wear armor because of HAM cost (which Im sure in PvP they will because if they are serious they wil be buffed) those days are almost over as stats will no longer effect specials with the new ham system.

Message Edited by TechnoHic on 02-21-2004 02:32 PM

I was a master pistoleer for about 2 months. I dropped it because I was getting bored. It has a few specials that do not work as advertised, (bodyshot3, disarmingshot and multi-target shot,) but other than that everything else works, and quite well. I kept each damage-type pistol in my inventory and felt like a walking arsenal. The dodge bonuses were incredible, to the point of ridiculous actually. With my best DX2 sliced for 35% damage, I was able to take out just about anything light armoured or under. /fanshot and /stoppingshot are awesome at master, especially /stoppingshot. I had a DX2 that was 112-212, 1.9 spd w/o power-up. I'd slap a min/max power-up on it and tear ass. I could spam stoppingshot all day long with tat sunburn or buffs, and would do 1k+ damage just under every second. It was evil. I've kept the speed branch of pistoleer because the speed mods and knockdown are awesome with my LP. I've had the KD+/flamesingle2 combo do over 20k damage. (It was on a Tusken raider and he deserved it.)

So, pistoleer != broke. Go play around with pikeman, carbineer, squad leader or commando and you'll discover truly shafted professions. And when I say play around, that means try out each special, and pay attention to what the other mods are doing (or not doing as the case may be.)

True, it is broken. However, unlike commandos, pistoleers gain something useful from each of their branches, wheras we're stuck with one branch worth using.

"Yes, I have n.pistoleer and the speed branch. But saying our marksman skills do squat is wrong. We have mindshot, headshot, actionshot, legshot, healthshot and bodyshots. We have fullsingleauto, roll shot, suppression fire and warningshot. I use all of these in PvE, in addition to flamecones and flamesingles and knockdowns. I even use intimidate and warcry quite frequently."

True, we have those other skills, but over time I've realized that I can do more damage just by letting the FT auto-attack targets. Anything that the FT can't handle you're not going to have a prayer of taking down with merely master marksman weaponry.

Although I must say, warcry and intimidate are particularly useful.

And speeking as a pistoleer myself, pistoleer is not more broken or even as broken as commando. With fanshot and action buffs it's like having a flamecone that works up to 64m away, and with better DPS as well as increased versatility, as there's only about one second between shots.

And these numbers are not fictitious. Even taking away the damage-resisting foods we still do crap for damage. 350ish DPS to a random HAM pool isn't that tough to deal with, especially when there is a high probability of missing and there's a 6-10 second delay between shots.

Not to mention that a commando can't do squat if you're out of flamecone range.

Message Edited by Raptor2k1 on 02-21-2004 12:28 PM

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Marvin5 wrote:

The problem of your calculations is that you do not use general numbers... instead you go for the 75% heatresist and a flameout drink...and the flameot only applies for the next 3-6 attacks and have a quite large filling.

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just to give you a idel of what typ of armor most pvp freeks ware