Commando Archive

Thread: Dev communication... why aren't we here?

garvin
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:26 pm
#14

This is actually a huge step in the right direction everyone...It shows that we are being heard and that the issues with our profession are acknowleged...


The only feedback we had received prior to this was that we "Just wanted to be Invincible" or we had an "Unfair advantage" that made us unstoppable in PvP...Here a Dev has taken to time tell us that he knows we are broken and and outright said we will be reviewed...


This is much better then getting a PM that we won't be visited because we only "rant and rave"...


Everyone knows my respect isn't given out easy...but I have much respect for JustG being open and honest with us...and for giving us more then "Wait until the Combat Balance...and shut up until then"...


Thank you again JustG...




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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bAss_ackwards
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:29 pm
#15

Woot! Thanks everyone for keeping possitive. Our turn is coming up...



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SkipMalone
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:35 pm
#16

Thanks JustG, I can understand why you would be so busy. But like Garvin said this is all we wanted for a long time. A reply from one of you big wigs. It's comforting to know that you are listening to us.... but you must be outnumbered up there. Anyways, thanks again-






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Evelas
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:37 pm
#17






JustG wrote:


So apparently there as been a bit of discontent in here recently...


/understatement


Look, we are not trying to nerf your profession to hell. We don't think you are the uber profession. We know that your other weapons need to be made more useful. We know that you would like some answers to your questions.


We have a TON of things on our plate. Publish themes. Dungeons. Major system overhauls. CS Issues. QA Issues. Correspondent issues...


Thirty three professions, and some are broke all to hell. We want to fix them. All of them. But it takes time.


We really don;t have the bandwidth to be here on the boards, track down answers, and post them to everyone. We simply would never get ANYTHING done. But communication is necessary, and good... so we are trying to focus it where we can. Right now this is aimed squarely at the Droid Engineers. And even they would like more. We just can't do it. But we lurk like crazy. We do read what is going on, and understand how you feel. I really wish we had the time to communicate with everyone. But we do not.


I love commandos... I ground my way up to Master the old-fashioned way on Ahazi, and play one to this day. I cried when we nerf'ed the DOT's, but I think it was right for the game.



I ask for your patience. When will we get around to answering the questions? I honestly can't say for sure. I am sorry. But we are listening. Your correspondent is the numberone way into our plans.Thanks.


/salute


- g





Join a server, play until you master commando, and then you'll see what we mean...


Pikeman and Carbineer may be ignored, but Commandos are just plain hated by the devs..


And you cried over the nerf? Your a dev, you helped the nerf!





Evelas - Jedi, Magnan - template pending
"I'm just dying for them to give Jedi that neat power that allows them to yank weapons out of your hand, so I can pull out a Grenade just as he's doing it." -Merc93
Evelas
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:38 pm
#18






garvin wrote:

/clap;


/salute;


That's all I've asked for JustG...some kind words go far...Thank you!!! Much Respect!!!


It's good to know we are acknowledged!!!




What do words do? We need action!




Evelas - Jedi, Magnan - template pending
"I'm just dying for them to give Jedi that neat power that allows them to yank weapons out of your hand, so I can pull out a Grenade just as he's doing it." -Merc93
Aerius
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:40 pm
#19






Evelas wrote:

Join a server, play until you master commando, and then you'll see what we mean...


Pikeman and Carbineer may be ignored, but Commandos are just plain hated by the devs..


And you cried over the nerf? Your a dev, you helped the nerf!








Read the post again for the first time. He explicitly stated that he has a character that is a Master Commando and that he plays it.


Ahazi - the better place to be.






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TechnoHic
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:41 pm
#20

Is it safe to assume the combat revamp actually starts publish 8 since developement says publish 7 has preliminary combat enhancements?



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Lifylos
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:43 pm
#21






Evelas wrote:





JustG wrote:


So apparently there as been a bit of discontent in here recently...


/understatement


Look, we are not trying to nerf your profession to hell. We don't think you are the uber profession. We know that your other weapons need to be made more useful. We know that you would like some answers to your questions.


We have a TON of things on our plate. Publish themes. Dungeons. Major system overhauls. CS Issues. QA Issues. Correspondent issues...


Thirty three professions, and some are broke all to hell. We want to fix them. All of them. But it takes time.


We really don;t have the bandwidth to be here on the boards, track down answers, and post them to everyone. We simply would never get ANYTHING done. But communication is necessary, and good... so we are trying to focus it where we can. Right now this is aimed squarely at the Droid Engineers. And even they would like more. We just can't do it. But we lurk like crazy. We do read what is going on, and understand how you feel. I really wish we had the time to communicate with everyone. But we do not.


I love commandos... I ground my way up to Master the old-fashioned way on Ahazi, and play one to this day. I cried when we nerf'ed the DOT's, but I think it was right for the game.



I ask for your patience. When will we get around to answering the questions? I honestly can't say for sure. I am sorry. But we are listening. Your correspondent is the numberone way into our plans.Thanks.


/salute


- g





Join a server, play until you master commando, and then you'll see what we mean...


Pikeman and Carbineer may be ignored, but Commandos are just plain hated by the devs..


And you cried over the nerf? Your a dev, you helped the nerf!








*stuffs evelas in a bag, and walks off* Move along citizens...



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Everseeker
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:43 pm
#22

Let me see if I got this right....










JustG wrote (in part):


"...I love commandos... I ground my way up to Master the old-fashioned way on Ahazi, and play one to this day..."



Evelas wrote:Join a server, play until you master commando, and then you'll see what we mean...



Evelas, thou art a pinhead.................

Ramoz
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:44 pm
#23



Evelas wrote:


garvin wrote:

/clap;

/salute;

That's all I've asked for JustG...some kind words go far...Thank you!!! Much Respect!!!
It's good to know we are acknowledged!!!


What do words do? We need action!





It shows once they get around to us we know at least one of them understands what our problems are and not that we are just some "uber" profession that likes to "rant and rave".

Thanks for taking the time to post, JG.
Evelas
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:47 pm
#24






Aerius wrote:





Evelas wrote:

Join a server, play until you master commando, and then you'll see what we mean...


Pikeman and Carbineer may be ignored, but Commandos are just plain hated by the devs..


And you cried over the nerf? Your a dev, you helped the nerf!








Read the post again for the first time. He explicitly stated that he has a character that is a Master Commando and that he plays it.


Ahazi - the better place to be.




In that case he definitely needs to do it again, or else the guys on Ahazi are all newbs. On Chilastra, everyone has like 90% comp armor, like 3k+ buffs, the best of everything...




Evelas - Jedi, Magnan - template pending
"I'm just dying for them to give Jedi that neat power that allows them to yank weapons out of your hand, so I can pull out a Grenade just as he's doing it." -Merc93
garvin
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:49 pm
#25

What do words do? We need action!


But read his words...it's a 180 Degree change from the things TH has said to us in the past...Before it was all "You aren't broken", "You just want to be invincible" and "Stop ranting and raving"...JustG is saying to us that he knows we are broken (finally someone we can believe actually plays Commando)...And that we may not get our fixes today, but we will get them...before TH made it sound like the all mystical Combat Balance is our fix...JustG acknowledges that we need more then that...


This means something to us today...it's more then we've received for many months...and it's a step in the right direction to helping create a more positive environment...


I do feel that this is only the first step though....and to be honest, I'm now a bit more willing to wait for some change...I would love to see a bit in patch 7 (the HAR)...a bit more in patch 8...and then hopefully we'll see much love in Patch 9 and 10...I say this because I know Patch 7 and 8 are devoted to DE's for the most part...I'm not going to be Greedy and demand our changes now because every other profession deserves an equal chance...but I a going to demand we get a Patch were we are a main focus....and I think by Patch9 or 10we should be there...I'd rather see something planed out instead of rushed because we were overly demanding...I'd also like to see us have some say and feedback in what happens to us...more then what we've been use to so far (just being told that changes are on the way)...



Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

KzinKiller
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:50 pm
#26

Probably the most direct admission of something we all knew anyway .... they bit off way more than they can chew on this project. It is just irresponsible to build something you lack the resources to properly maintain. I know it's S.O.P. in the game industry ... thank god it isn't in most industries.


"Yes, we heard your brakes and airbag don't work properly but we have so many people working on proper Dolby Surround-Sound balance that we can't get to that for a few months, thanks for your patience, k-bye! Oh, and don't forget to make that next payment!"


Remember the Seven Deadly Sins of SWG posts? I continue to maintain that their greatest sin is, was, and continues to be hubris. In reaching for so much, they succeed at so little.


It's not too late to revamp your management team and focus on core issues, but there's very little visible progress in this area, guys. Companies fail on exactly these issues.




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