Commando Archive

Thread: Insulted by the T21

Knight1138
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:09 am
#14

I agree with this post entriely. You guys see our commando Boards.....we are pulling our hair or scale out on this stuff.




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OdinLoki
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:28 am
#15

i dont know who is talking about low base damage on a t21 my frined is a master weaponsmith and i sliced one for her that now does 259-618 damage, with ar3 depending on which day of the nerf it is. that aint low damage at all. i could add all of my commando weapons damage up, and tehy allwere made by teh same master weaponsmith that made the t21 and tehy might equal this beast only, i have less skill with the commado weapons than a novice rifleman, and i have less specials, so headshot 2, mind shot 2 with this juggarnaut are beastly.
OuTLaW75
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:52 am
#16

wow, i read about halfway through the 1st page of this board, and i was quite annoyed at all the whining, bitching and moaning going on about how "weak" the commando is. if you cant beat a rifleman, so what.. dont fight riflemen, good grief.. the programmers and what not are doing the best they can to get all the buggy stuff to work the right way, which may take a while, maybe even into the next year. i was a commando and i was only to heavy support weapons 1, then i quit commando last night because i found it to be a bore just running around non-stop blowing up little rills and worrts for quick xp. so i invested my points in bio-engineering.



oh yeah, i'm a rifleman too, so maybe i can kick ur commando ass with my boomstick.


all i came to really say is for u whiners to **edit** and live with it


have a nice day



"Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum..."


anon. (dont need any flak from anyone during gameplay :])

Khannivore
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:58 am
#17

"can't beat riflemen, so what, don't fight riflemen?"


Wow... that's a nice quote, coming from a rifleman. BTW, the rifleman boards are full of rifleman whiners complaining they can't beat BH and pistoleers. Hello, pot, this is kettle...

o0MaSTa0o
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:30 am
#18

OHH!!! SHUT UP BITCH...your a real annoying piece of humanity.. good god. Your not a commando. Ok so you were a commando and im betting the real reason why u quit this profession was because u saw how bad the weapons sucked...And i bet you were pretty pissed off. SO plz dude stay off our commando forums and stop giving us ure worthless info. That frankly most of us dont really care about. And are u scared that once the devs do fis our profession we will be able to kick ass quickly.......



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Skyshar
Fri Aug 22, 2003 7:10 am
#19

Ok... attention! Rifleman speaking!


Why are you complaining that they actually fixed our elite weap? Well... theoritically anyway, ill believe it when I see it. In any event, they 'fixed' the weapon the first time because they picked rifleman to look at for a few days, and then they fixed it again because people were firing up 3k damage shots with it.

Also, its easy to fix 1 weapon, where as the entire system needs to be looked at for Commando.


Instead of complaining, why not be happy that they are actually recognizing problems with the weapons and think that your turn is coming.


Oh yea, current Rifleman, Ex-Commando


Slayzer/Laramee

Rezael
Fri Aug 22, 2003 7:29 am
#20

hey riflemen,


F U....what were pissed off is that our weapons in theory work...they just have to edit the damage stats, and range mods....they did it to your weapon 3x in one week hot fixes each time....while they say "We dont want to hot fix weapons in may cause problems ingame..." yet they do it for you 3x in one week...why do the devs hate the commandos? i dont know......maybe they are afraid we may actually advance and actually have fun playing....nahhh....i really dont know...all i know is im insulted...upset....so now im back to hating the devs and im going to drop an F bomb on them... so F U...... im only saying F U to the devs cause i got theyve been saying it to us since day 1. i just have the balls to do it to their faces, not behing your backs...

rez.



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JediQuic
Fri Aug 22, 2003 8:18 am
#21

I LIke the Idea of Higher Armor rated weapons.


Personaly i Would like to see AR4 and AR5 weapons, and all our curent weapons damage Tuned out with higher armor ratings. No Commando weapon should be lower then AR2. Flamer should be AR2, HAR should be AR3, Launcher pistol AR2(cause it already rocks it would need a bit of raw DPS tweaking), Beam Rifle AR3 (if we ever get a clear word on this gun ) And the Rest of the current Charged guns AR3


An AR4 Weapon would be like a Heavy Repeater(i hear E-Web talked about alot) Fast refire and without specials. It Peirces armor with ease, But has a Lower over all damage then a rocket or Heavy beam type weapon. This would be a Master Commando type weapon that is chargeless(Read-Regular gun). Numbers i am tossing around in my head are around: 75-125damage, 2 second, AR4 unsliced...This seams reasonable to me


An AR5 weapon would Be the Proton Torpedo Launcher(Sorry i borowed the name, But i love it!) Just like ya said, Very Big Delay, VERY big damage, Very Few charges...Think Rocket launcher 2...This is a Special case weapon...and everything about it need to reflect that. It Is designed for Penetrating ANY armor and Doing an Obscene amount of damage, At the cost of a Very dificult and Expensive weapon to make and Causing the Person who fires it to be comited to the action somtime therafter. You get the Idea....BOOM!


HairdressingRebel
Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:30 am
#22

Well i'm a current rifleman/commando and i love the changes to the T21




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OuTLaW75
Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:43 am
#23

yeah that is what i'm saying actually, if u cant beat it then dont fight it. its just that simple.. unless of course u like dying constantly against the same **edit** thing over and over.. i mean if thats what ur into then please be my guest



and i did quit commando cuz the weapons suck, if they change them i might consider going back.. but until then i'm going to be making kick-ass rancors and **edit** =)


u guys can have fun dinkin around with your underpowered weapons and keep gettin pissed over silly things.


i on the other hand will be having fun



uh oh, i have to go because i have a life that extends beyond star wars.



have a nice day

DrRuffleburg
Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:45 am
#24

lol, more power to ya hairdresser. I'm a commando/pistoleer and I'm gonna hate when they fianally get around to nerfing pistoleers. I completely agre with shonriyan (sp?) as I would be happy to be just as powerfull as rifleman without having to worry about taking the 2.5x multiplier. They get to deal out damage but they have to take it in return. We just have to worry about dealing out damage. I'll stick with commando forever simply because of the heavy support weapon animations.



roar?
Uninformed
Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:49 am
#25

I disagree with the suggestion that somehow nerfing other classes will help here. THe bottom line is we need to wait until the fix on COmmando before we can estimate how well we fair against other classes, like Rifleman.


Hell, I went Rifleman because Commando was broken. Think carefully about complaining. If and when our class is fixed, everyone will complain about us. TRUST ME. And when the shoe is on the other foot, we will all be saying stop complaining about us.


Bottom line. THe insult about the T21 is not what it can or cannot do. THe insult is the fact that Commando was ignored for so long despite the suffering of the players and hotfix was used for a purpose that Holo said would not occur to make it so.


If T21 can be hotfixed, so can commando. If nothing else, they can hotfix all of the Commando schems to make weapons available on all servers and for a reasonable price.


Let's see if Holo lives up to his promise to fix Commando in 2-3 weeks.





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DrRuffleburg
Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:55 am
#26

To all the folks whining about the T21 damage (not the fact that they got a fix before us mind you, *cough* bull**edit** *cough*) what are you doing with your extra skill points? The most logical thing to do is master another of the ranged combat proffesions or TKA. Personally I'm mastering pistoleer. Any of us, even after dropping 63 points on another combat master, could spare the 6 points to pick up the T21 cert.



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