Commando Archive
Thread: PVP Sucks any ideas?
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eternaly
Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:04 pm
#14
Man i wish i had and answer.. I had to drop commando for that reason now im a master tka brawler fencer( cry ) But my 5 flamers are on the shelf.. So if they fix it i i will be back again .. But I do miss them....
Raptor2k1
Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:45 am
#15
- Fixed heat resistances so that they work properly with DOTs as well. (Our DOT does less damage)
- Transfereda lot of our DOT into the initial hit with the FT
- Weapon delay makes it so that we cant burn and switch to knucklers for defenses (not a FT change but it hurts)
Forgot another one too 
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:- 2.5x damage modifier from hitting rifleman is gone.
Whittany
Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:12 pm
#16
Geez, Why are you Commandos only Using Your Flamers.. You guys have a killer amount of weapons at your disposible. In Sqaud vs Squad PvPs. Have your Commando Stand back a Bit and Single out thier Doctors.. Once you have done that Hit them with an Rocket Launcher, After eating your accuracy Food it Hits 2 out of 3 time.. and I have never seen someone take 2 RPG hit and not go down. Not many Doctors Wear Composite Armor. Stay on thier Doctors once the Doctors are out.. the Squad drops Fast. If anyone gets in range of your Flame 2 Let them have it.. If it sticks it normally kills them. Also, Toss a Few Proton Grenades as well.
Commando Should use all thier resources before Being forced to use the Flamer only. Commandos need to use Tactics to survive. Stand up fighting just will not do it for a commando..
SkinRudenko
Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:19 pm
#17
Whittany wrote:
Geez, Why are you Commandos only Using Your Flamers.. You guys have a killer amount of weapons at your disposible. In Sqaud vs Squad PvPs. Have your Commando Stand back a Bit and Single out thier Doctors.. Once you have done that Hit them with an Rocket Launcher, After eating your accuracy Food it Hits 2 out of 3 time.. and I have never seen someone take 2 RPG hit and not go down. Not many Doctors Wear Composite Armor. Stay on thier Doctors once the Doctors are out.. the Squad drops Fast. If anyone gets in range of your Flame 2 Let them have it.. If it sticks it normally kills them. Also, Toss a Few Proton Grenades as well.
Commando Should use all thier resources before Being forced to use the Flamer only. Commandos need to use Tactics to survive. Stand up fighting just will not do it for a commando..
When your opponenthas all 9 stats buffed, a full stomach, andis wearing 80% armor (doctors too), Commando becomes a lot harder to PvP with. I'd agree with you a few months ago, but sadly it isn't the same anymore.
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Skeptic666
Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:04 am
#18
the only way I can find COmmando Viable in PvP is if I can get a kd/dizzy and they cant stand up then if im lucky i can get a Flame II and Cone II to stack FLip back and start beating them down :
Quevey
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:52 am
#19
Whittany wrote:
Geez, Why are you Commandos only Using Your Flamers.. You guys have a killer amount of weapons at your disposible. In Sqaud vs Squad PvPs. Have your Commando Stand back a Bit and Single out thier Doctors.. Once you have done that Hit them with an Rocket Launcher, After eating your accuracy Food it Hits 2 out of 3 time.. and I have never seen someone take 2 RPG hit and not go down. Not many Doctors Wear Composite Armor. Stay on thier Doctors once the Doctors are out.. the Squad drops Fast. If anyone gets in range of your Flame 2 Let them have it.. If it sticks it normally kills them. Also, Toss a Few Proton Grenades as well.
Commando Should use all thier resources before Being forced to use the Flamer only. Commandos need to use Tactics to survive. Stand up fighting just will not do it for a commando..
read what your saying target a doctor. i should only duel non combat prof.? flamesingle2 will not kill a buffed player the dot will wear out long before that. my master commando pretty much is collecting dust the last few months ive been playing a master arch master artisian and some merchant on another server waiting for the combat revamp.
i havent tried grenades in ages have there been changes to them that ive missed?
Raptor2k1
Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:03 pm
#20
Geez, Why are you Commandos only Using Your Flamers.. You guys have a killer amount of weapons at your disposible. In Sqaud vs Squad PvPs. Have your Commando Stand back a Bit and Single out thier Doctors.. Once you have done that Hit them with an Rocket Launcher, After eating your accuracy Food it Hits 2 out of 3 time.. and I have never seen someone take 2 RPG hit and not go down. Not many Doctors Wear Composite Armor. Stay on thier Doctors once the Doctors are out.. the Squad drops Fast. If anyone gets in range of your Flame 2 Let them have it.. If it sticks it normally kills them. Also, Toss a Few Proton Grenades as well.
Commando Should use all thier resources before Being forced to use the Flamer only. Commandos need to use Tactics to survive. Stand up fighting just will not do it for a commando..
Did you serioulsy just say that commandos should stand around and try to assassinate Doctors and Field Medics with Bazookas?
Why don't we use the 'killer amount of weapopns at our disposal'? Hmm, perhaps because only2 of them are worth using? (with the RL and the LP beinga .5 usefulness each.)
Message Edited by Raptor2k1 on 07-21-2004 01:04 PM
-RancorOwner-
Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:28 pm
#21
Raptor2k1 wrote:
Geez, Why are you Commandos only Using Your Flamers.. You guys have a killer amount of weapons at your disposible. In Sqaud vs Squad PvPs. Have your Commando Stand back a Bit and Single out thier Doctors.. Once you have done that Hit them with an Rocket Launcher, After eating your accuracy Food it Hits 2 out of 3 time.. and I have never seen someone take 2 RPG hit and not go down. Not many Doctors Wear Composite Armor. Stay on thier Doctors once the Doctors are out.. the Squad drops Fast. If anyone gets in range of your Flame 2 Let them have it.. If it sticks it normally kills them. Also, Toss a Few Proton Grenades as well.
Commando Should use all thier resources before Being forced to use the Flamer only. Commandos need to use Tactics to survive. Stand up fighting just will not do it for a commando..
Did you serioulsy just say that commandos should stand around and try to assassinate Doctors and Field Medics with Bazookas?
Why don't we use the 'killer amount of weapopns at our disposal'? Hmm, perhaps because only2 of them are worth using? (with the RL and the LP beinga .5 usefulness each.)
Message Edited by Raptor2k1 on 07-21-2004 01:04 PM
we have three unlimited use weapons:
flamethrower, heavy acid rifle, launcher pistol
since we have no mods or specials witht he lp we can pretty much cross that one out. that leaves you with ft and har. the ft gives DoT and very low HAM costs. that makes no sense to use the har unless the only thing protecting your enemy is a PSG (acid vuln) and say, ubese (30% at most?). as great as that sounds, composite is pretty much the only armor your gonna see in pvp in mass....and actally acid/elec layered armor is very common.
So, unless you need to get past a PSG, you really have no logical incentive to use a HAR. that leaves us with:
the flamethrower...
nades blow you up more than they blow up your enemy... lol. sereisly they barely hurt your enemy but the ham costs are a **edit** for unbuffed folk
heavy particle beams and rocket launchers are some of our more useful weapons. rocket launchers are unfortuantly difficult to find and expensive, and generally slow (speed unsliced around 7.0ish?). so, if your rich, and are having your buddies tank for you, this is a nice weapon in pvp... other wise save em for the turrets
as for HPBCs, composite is generally gonna be layered for stun, kinetic, electrity, energy, or acid. Its not uncommon to find kin/energy grouped as with acid/elec, so you have a thearetical 67% chance of not having your shot almost completely absorbed (although the abundance of stun armor may help your odds). although that doesnt seem like much to worry about, don't get exicted. with armor's base ranging from 60s to 80s depending on slice, your still taking quite a risk with a 4-5ish speed weapon (average t21sfire around 2.5 seconds per shot, [including speed mods], many ppl have additional mods to make it go a shot/second). Luckily, these are reletivly cheap. I used these with glee when i was a commando.
on a side note, almost everyone thats prepared for pvp is buffed/armored including the docters
including the doctersMessage Edited by -RancorOwner- on 07-21-2004 11:31 PM
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