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Thread: I CANNOT BELIEVE Holo is considering what a guy with 11 posts is crying about

Izumi_Shimada
Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:11 pm
#14

Welp I'm not a master Commando, but im about half way up the trees. So far in pvp i've been killed by BH's and other classes, but for the most part flame kills. I play mostly on tantoonie, running missions or what not, I dont play alot so never go hardcore xping.



but...



I'll have to agree. Atm the moment in PVP we are overpowered, but I wont go far enough to say that PVE we are. PVE is a completely different monster then PVP. I think that for pvp we shouldnt be doing 400 dmg in a blast for regular hits. You guys say that you are inaccurate and yet myself with FT tier2 am finding I miss less then 1 in 4 shots.I have a standard flamethrower 420-820 3.7 speed sliced, and I do believe we need balancing for that. Then again I still think we also need fixing of our Field Tactics tier, its useless atm, and our HAR needs adjusting. Flamethrowers are justa bit overpowered in PVP which is where most whiners come from.



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DrkSensei
Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:45 pm
#15

Ahh and the brain trust weighs in ( sarcastic laughter)


In small words for Phlacc: Fix the bug..then no more big boom.No more ouchie..no more scream for mommy.




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Phlacc
Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:04 pm
#16

Exactly, now you're catching on.


Dustin_Asche
Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:05 pm
#17

"I just wish people would stop crying and use their heads to beat us"


It's funny how I always hear this whenever something unbalanced (AT-STs, Commandos, previously CHs) is in danger of being nerfed back into balance.


The fact of the matter is that Commandos ARE overpowered now, and the balance over-did it. Commandos are supposed to be most effective in specialized circumstances. They should be most powerful against certain types of opponents (vehicles and turrets) or in certain circumstances (up real close with a flame thrower) but least powerful in other circumstances (they should be dead real quick when alone or in small groups, or against anythingmelee). They are a support class (not a secondary class, i want to make that clear, it should be a main class with perhaps some TKA or carbine or something as a secondary profession) and function best in support of other, basic troops (carbineer, pistoleer, pikeman, etc).




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workpls
Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:06 pm
#18

Ill never play ths game and cancel if we commandos get nerfed really bad again. This is all I got to say. I just dropped my pistol master to concentrate master commando with medic and tera kasi. If I have to go back up pistoleer again Im outta this game for good and go play world of warcaft or something when it comes out. Peace all
DrkSensei
Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:16 pm
#19

They need to fix the two bugs that effect the weapons..not nerf them. Fix the dot bug(HI I've cloned... Hi Im still burning) that applies to certain dots(combat medic,flamethrower etc.) and fix that stupid melee weapon bug and the increase would be fine. If the devs use their heads it will be fine



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MagicHobo
Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:59 pm
#20

If they nerf commandos, i nerf my subscription. simply as pie.





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Xucost
Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:24 pm
#21

An intelligent weapon expert can easilly beat a commando, there are a few things that should be done which make the commando very easy to kill. It is unfortunate that the vast majority of the SWG players are total morons. The commando doesnt excell and killing turrets, or armored units, the commando excells at killing the stupid people. And because most of the players in this game are very stupid, the commando excells at killing most of the players. And the other unfortunate thing is stupidity in mass has power, the mass of this game is under the controll of the stupid.


Stupid people die, stupid people cry, stupid people get things changed for themself. People with intelligence are left with a distastefull feeling in their mouth. Should the dev team give in to the retarded force without some sort of compensation many accounts(including my own) will be cancled. Im not asking to be god, im just asking that if they take away my damage i get something in return. Maybe good accuracy and specials that work till 64M range like every other weapon.




Intelligent fighting > Commando....which is why Commando > 95% of SWG players.
Phlacc
Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:42 pm
#22

Xucost, How does killing players with one shot make you "smarter"? Where is the tactic? Could you do as a Master Doctor? Now that would be a smart player.


Seriously, I am only asking. Could you answer, or even justify, my first question. It seems you accuse most of the SWG population as being "stupid", and yet, you take a class that is ALMOST unbeatable. I'm sure you were Commando since launch, or a short time there after, but I can't see how being a Commando makes YOU any "smarter" then the rest of SWG players.


You start your post by saying " An intelligent weapon expert can easilly beat a commando, there are a few things that should be done which make the commando very easy to kill"


I agree with you, but with Commandos taking me out with one shot, makes it kind of hard......don't you think?

Bal-renco
Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:06 pm
#23






Phlacc wrote:

Xucost, How does killing players with one shot make you "smarter"? Where is the tactic? Could you do as a Master Doctor? Now that would be a smart player.


Seriously, I am only asking. Could you answer, or even justify, my first question. It seems you accuse most of the SWG population as being "stupid", and yet, you take a class that is ALMOST unbeatable. I'm sure you were Commando since launch, or a short time there after, but I can't see how being a Commando makes YOU any "smarter" then the rest of SWG players.


You start your post by saying " An intelligent weapon expert can easilly beat a commando, there are a few things that should be done which make the commando very easy to kill"


I agree with you, but with Commandos taking me out with one shot, makes it kind of hard......don't you think?







Ok, it's not really hard, here's the secret that most Commandos don't want you to know. First of all, if you want to live in an encounter against a commando the very first rule of engagement is. DON'T GET CLOSER THAN 16m.


Ok, you got rule #1, rule #2 is MOVE. With the poor accuracy mods we get, if you keep moving then we'll have to move to keep you in effective range. We move, we miss.


If you aren't following the above two rules as a Expert Combat Profession, then you aren't playing smart against a commando. If you stay still and are closer than 16m expect to die. That's all there is to it really.




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nightwolf180
Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:27 pm
#24

Well I hate people. I'm gonna go live as a hermit, everyones a whiney bitch when they don't get their way and they all act like their 3 year olds in a retail store (MOMMY I WANT QUARTER! I WANT CANDY! I WANT TOY! GIMME GIMME GIMME!) instead its (I WANT THEIR TOY! I WANT THEIR CANDY!) its insane. I'm done with the boards. If commandos get nerfed I'm done from this game. It only proves that the DEVs don't give a crap about anything important like the number of people who DON'T post on these boards. The number of people who don't whine for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours over things they could prevent themselves. And its deffinately obvious that the devs don't want variety, they just want everything perfectly matched which means we might aswell all play pistoleers.



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Taredan
Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:08 pm
#25

QUICK! Everyone use an acid rifle only!
alphawolf100
Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:16 pm
#26

OMG I can't believe this. Basicly what everyone should be crying for is the TEF Fix and not to Nerf Commandos. How hard is it to stay out of a 16m range? i mean really. If your overt bring your radar to 128 or 256 even and just stay alert. I'm a Commando and I've been beaten in PvP many times since the patch came out. I've gotten into Scraps with Imperial Commandos and the results vary. i've won some, i've lost some. If you spent 10% of the time it takes to complain about us thinking about theplay system,you could figure out a way to beat a commando.



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