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Thread: Grenades and how we cannot hit the broad side of a barn with them!

Bigjimmy1
Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:50 pm
#14

Actualy i wrote a detailed summary about grenades but they wouldnt for some reason let me post it?. My last post said half a football field, well i dont think even that maybe 2/4 of half a football field you could throw it. And the blast kill radious was like 15yards circal and i forgot what they called it but the hurt radious was like 35yard +, so indefenant you have to be ducking behind something or youd get hit by it.


And about accuracy they have a accuracy training course in basic training that gave a bogus medal that you couldnt wear on a real uniform unless it was only basic, the course was pretty darn easy, if you could throw in a 5-8 yard circle from 15 yards away you got it.



The real deal were grenade launchers underneath of M16 rifles, They could be loobed over football fields and have a 25-30 yard kill radious, them were the fun guns





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flabajaba2213
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:09 pm
#15

Would we still hit ourselves with a claymore mine? think about it...the mine could all of a sudden turn around and hit us!!!!



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Donmeka
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:18 pm
#16

the thermal det should be a feared weapon. i mean if it can make jabba think twice it should make a pistoleer go "a....................wh..............nah.................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" *KABLOOEY*



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Ceenno
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:32 am
#17

Just wondering, but has anyone ever hit more than one person with a grenade? I have but only when i'm throwing it at someone meleeing me and the others effected are wacking at me too....seriously, creatures and npc's don't group as much as characters in real life (instead of crouching together in a foxhole, they run in opposite direction firing over their shoulder) so the blast rate should be larger. I expect a grenade to be some sort of crowd control, not a single target heavy weapon.


Also, for those of you who have trouble imagining how the german grenades (potato smashers?) could be thrown so far compared to a baseball, think of it this way- You have a 1 foot baseball bat and normal baseball. You can hit it so far. Now imagine that you have a 2 and a half foot bat and a baseball that's weighted to twice as much. How much further do you think you'll hit it? The extended leverage more than makes up for the weight advantage. If you think about it, the weight actually increase the distance it's thrown when attached to the stick as the extended arc creates a large momentum that's carries it farther. Don't believe me? Go to that surplus store, buy one of each and go try to throw them.



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Raptor2k1
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:45 am
#18

"Just wondering, but has anyone ever hit more than one person with a grenade?"


Does yourself count?



Yay for proton grenades at point blank range! (or even ideal range for that matter)



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Hellshot
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:00 am
#19






RobbPilot wrote:


100m... that's pretty much from home plate to the foul poles in many ballparks. Most men can't throw a baseball that far, let alone a hand grenade. I'm not saying that nobody could do it, but I don't think your average grenadier or soldat was heaving potato mashers at targets that far away. If they were... the scouts for the Yankees and Dodgers would have been all over them to sign contracts.




The grenades that he is referring to are the ones with the grenade on the end of a stick. Unlike throwing a ball, when throwing the stick you get extra torque (through the leverage), allowing more force to go into the toss, and hence further tosses. I cant vouch for the 100m, but you could definately throw it further than just a ball.




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Cuality
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:02 am
#20

havent you guys figured it out? the switched combat medic with what our grenade line should be. look at it... combat medic can throw poison over 80m with a 30m radius (must be the line of combat in marksman, makes him throw like micheal vick) of course we have miniature thermonuclear grenades... but that cant hit anything that happens to be moving (looks cool though...)


i recently purchased every peice of thrown weapon accuracy armor attachment i could find, i mean, i dropped a good 3 million in all of these and now can boast of a thrown weapon accuracy of 145 (according to armor attach FAQ, i can only top out at 110, but the numbers are in my character sheet) i tested a handful of protons out on a unsuspecting rebel farming outside anchorhead. i asked him later what he had trained in and all he had was 2-1-0-1 marksman and scout 1-0-1-0 scout. 3 stacks of miniature thermonuclear devices thrown total damge done to him... 1100, i hit 2 out of 15, needless to say, i wore out my buffs using all of these and burned a pixie to keep my health up... so dmg him: 1100, dmg me: 4500. oh, one of the grenades i threw at point blank, missed us both.






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Cuality
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:15 am
#21






KureJiBaka wrote:

Makes me wonder why Everyone was so Freaked out in Jabbas Palce when Leia took out that Thermal Detonator. She woulda just missed the Fat Guy, She isn't even a Novice Commando.







haha, time for a script rewrite i guess:


THREEPIO: Oh. The illustrious Jabba bids you welcome
and will gladly pay you the reward of twenty-
five thousand.

BOUSHH (in Ubese subtitled): I want fifty thousand. No less.

Jabba immediately flies into a rage, knocking the golden droid
off the raised throne into a clattering heap on the floor. Boushh
adjusts his weapon as Jabba raves in Huttese and Threepio
struggles back onto the throne. The disheveled droid tries to
compose himself.

THREEPIO: Uh, oh... but what, what did I say?
(to Boushh)
Uh, the mighty Jabba asks why he must pay
fifty thousand.

The bounty hunter holds up a small silver ball in his hand.
Threepio looks at it, then looks at Jabba, then back to the
bounty hunter. The droid is very nervous and Jabba is getting
very impatient.

THREEPIO: Because he's holding a thermal detonator.

The guards instantly back away, as do most of the other monsters
in the room. Jabba stares at the silver ball, which begins to
glow in the bounty hunter's hand. The room has fallen into a
tense hush. Jabba stares at the bounty hunter malevolently until
a sly grin creeps across his vast mouth and he begins to laugh.


JABBA(in Huttese subtitled): Ho, ho, ho, you don't have the proper skill to use that, youn00b, go ahead, use it.


The bounty huntersets off thedetonator, a large flash and dazzling cool effects light the throne room. When the smoke clears, Bousch stands there a tad wounded, but since he is armored took very little damage. Chewbacca is dead, because wookies always die. Jabba managed to+dodge out of the waybecause he's a defense stacker. Boba Fett is dead and stripped of his armor while some guy runs away screamin: "i killed Boba Fett!!!! i am the bestest!!!" oh, and the dancers are still dancing, because they were never there anyway.






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Bigjimmy1
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:20 am
#22


I used to have crates of differnt types of grenades and have been incaped several times buy my oun grenade (wich in real life actualy can happen except your dead or jacked up badly).



It seems if i get in ideal range kneel and aim before i throw them i land around 75% or more of what i throw.



I dont think the armor and clothing attachments work properly right at the moment for any heavy weapon. I think its bugged somehow ive read that in many posts before. I would have weighted to use the accuracy when they fixed it, honestly i would rather have heavy weapon speed then anything. Amagine shooting a 2.8 flamethrower with 25 extra speed ,,,daimn that would be fast. what say 3 second specails or faster.






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Cuality
Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:29 am
#23

the hvy weapon tapes and attachment are broken, but the grenades one work as intended (well, it says the right things in my skill tree +85/+145, i dont know if its working correctly or not.)




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