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Thread: And you people say we don't get love...check this out...

JawaFunk
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:32 pm
#14

Mandolorian Armor - Bounty Hunter, Commando, Ranger, and Squad Leader ONLY - quest / crafted with Bounty Hunter Armor


Bounty Hunter Armor - No certs, dropped from Death Watch bunker mobs


This how I understand things from the posts I've read.


Eans
Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:01 pm
#15

hopefully this is the beginning of more stuff comin our way.....like say bye to eth aciu\id rifle and hello to a heavy assault rifle!
RazaelDemron
Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:12 pm
#16






Xenothaulus wrote:
Why ranger though? No offense to them, but it doesn't make sense. And I was a master ranger for a month or two. If the same crowd is still on their board, I'll be they're wondering the same thing. Rangers have been screaming for some kind of concealment- ghilly suit, visible camo, SOMETHING, forever. And they toss them the mando bone. It just doesn't make sense.

Much love for us commandos though.





They're going to be given some combat utility upcoming. Besides, any good military force needs Rangers.



Commissar Taleroth
Bounty Hunter/Mad Genius
The only way to be rid of temptation is to give in to it.
"Hey stop being a kill-joy jerkey." - STORMSHADOW

SamuraiPanzer
Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:55 am
#17






garvin wrote:

This was asked of TH in his 19 Questions post...and check out his reply...


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mythronde wrote:
TH, can you kindly answer on which professions, if certs will be added, will be able to use mandalorian armor? BH's would love to have some lovin' sooner than later if you know what I mean


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Certs for Mandalorian armor will be: Bounty Hunter, Commando, Ranger and Squad Leader







This may not seem like a huge amount of love for us...but it's something that I've seen come up for discussion here...nice to know we made the list!!!









Ill say it again, shouldnt the commandos be getting their OWN STUFF? Mandalorian?


Commando only armor should have unique characteristics designed for the needs of the commando. This thieving what is supposed to be rare items which are only seen in the hands of 1 or 2 people in the star wars universe is yet another break in the continuity.


I dont see this as lovin. I see this as a violation of the continuity, and i see it as 'bone' for commandos, not a fix in any way whatsoever.




The Journey Continues

Yo-Jimbo ---- TKA/Medic ---- Ahazi
Yo-Jimbo Panzer ---- TKM/CH/MEDIC ---- Bloodfin
omentyrson
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:18 am
#18

just a correction, i have killed 6 black sun assassins, 3 black sun thugs ans 3 black sun henchmen. the assassins will drop one armor piece but only on the third spawn. i currently have a bh boot and legs armor pieces. also they spawned on dath and while im master commando and master tk they still took awhile to defeat. this is not easy everyone. also i just heard that they were not supposed to be on server so they have been removed till the release of the dw cave.


anyone on tarq ps me ill gladly show them if asked.


Omen'tyr Ashna
omentyrson
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:31 am
#19

little insite here too. the mandalorian was a race of WARRIORS. that means the armor is combat oreintated. and i dont think there is more of a class besides commando and bounty hunter that would use this. and the addition of armor certs and class specific armors is sweet. especially with the nerf of commando. come on a rifleman running with composite armor on? how the hell are they shooting? that helm would limit your view and the encumberance of the armor should reduce your skills.


crafters get aprons to increase abilities


docs and medics get specialized clothing to increase their healing skills


CH's get specialized clothing to increase their training and taming skills.


entertainers get class specific clothing with skill mods on them


CURRENTLY bh, commando, and ranger have no real skill mods available.


Bout time the commando's get something. hey why not nerf the commandos ability to use weapons? (refering to the gernade ability nerf) they want everyone to have to rely on everyone else for stuff and that is not realistic i play mostly late night early morning and it is rare i see any mas 0or mws's online to make custom orders. and for me to know what is available i need to talk to them.


/rant off


i like the idea but there is much to be desired.


Omen'tyr Ashna


tarq



SamuraiPanzer
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:40 am
#20






omentyrson wrote:

little insite here too. the mandalorian was a race of WARRIORS. that means the armor is combat oreintated. and i dont think there is more of a class besides commando and bounty hunter that would use this.








Yes but why even commando?


Commandos in THIS TIMEFRAME have armor assigned to them by their respective militray forces, either alliance or imperial, NOT running around in their own unique suits.


This is not what the commando is all about, and this is not in keeping with continuity.


I will keep saying it until I die --- mandalorian armor for commandos is a violation of the continuity, not a feature to be pursued.


Commandos deserve their own unique armor, just like the weaponry. They also deserve their own unique PURPOSE.


Constantly bugging dev team to add bounty hunter armor to the commando has gotten you nothing but bounty hunter armor. Your uniqueness will not be defined by this, and this is a failure in my opinion of the maintenence of the continuity in this time frame.



The Journey Continues

Yo-Jimbo ---- TKA/Medic ---- Ahazi
Yo-Jimbo Panzer ---- TKM/CH/MEDIC ---- Bloodfin
SamuraiPanzer
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:45 am
#21

Instead, your armor should be determined by your purpose and your needs as COMMANDOS.


Commando armor should be gotten from the factional terminals and wearable ONLY by the Commando of your respective political choice, either rebel or Imperial, and this armor should be designed with this in mind.


I just dont understand the thinking of the developers on this issue, and I certainly dont understand why the commandos have been crying for this.


Have you all lost your vision? Are you all resorting to making demands based upon what others are getting from the devs?


I can think of half a dozen Commando issues that could be resolved by thinking like a Commando. I don't even have to be a Commando to see what the purpose is, and what kinds of gadgets and armor should be required by the Commando profession.


No, mandalorian armor being worn by Commandos is not a fix, or even lovin, its a bone and it breaks the continuity. The argument that commandos should wear this armor is invalid.





The Journey Continues

Yo-Jimbo ---- TKA/Medic ---- Ahazi
Yo-Jimbo Panzer ---- TKM/CH/MEDIC ---- Bloodfin
PhantomSnipa
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:50 am
#22

so i dropped commando only to find i cannot wear mando now woohoo, i wish you guys luck i hope the new armor makes up for lack of defenses and complete damnation from the nerf stick



Onaeveim Reeco
Quevey
Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:37 am
#23

sounds cool is this for masters or any novice?


do you think people will camp just to craft the armor and sell it?


a helmet i saw looted in the gorath forum showed vun to heat acid and another forget which





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SamuraiPanzer
Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:11 pm
#24






garvin wrote:

Just remeber...there are 2 Different types of armor coming into Game...Mal. Armor and Bounty Hunter Armor...they are 2 different sets of armor...The BH armor will be cert'd for anyone...and is most often looted...


The Mal. Armor, which will only be attainable if crafted in the Death Watch Cave, will be available to the professions listed above...









Yes, but that's a play on semantics which doesn't address the issue.


Mandalorian armor, everywhere else in the world, is considered bounty hunter armor. Well, Fett armor. It's rare, not something that people attain from grinding another cave either.


If it must be in the game, it should reside in master bounty hunter skill box only, and that only the cert. This armor should address the needs of the bounty hunter.


Commando should also have specialized armor, that meets the purpose and needs of the Commando.




The Journey Continues

Yo-Jimbo ---- TKA/Medic ---- Ahazi
Yo-Jimbo Panzer ---- TKM/CH/MEDIC ---- Bloodfin
omentyrson
Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:01 pm
#25

actually i do agree with u. but at the same time your forgetting we have a large number of no factioned commandos. what do they get? the one really hard core profession we got get the same armor as the marksman. that means they are just as hard in most cases to kill. does that maiintain the contunity? does mak9ing all classes equal matntian it? what need of commando if the pistoleer can hit major creatures for just as much if not more than a master commando? the problem is we got people who think because they pay the same ammount for the soe service they are some how entitled to the same armor and weapons as everyone else. but how many commandos (a full combat profession ) making dorids? or making there own armor? we have very little worth compared to ALL other classes. that in my eyes should be enough resason to see the commando favored alot more. or make special missions that require a commando to be able to complete.


We cant make our own bombs or mines but even a de can have the skills to take down akrayt. Is that fair? is that balanced? we should have gotten alot more than jsut cert to use mandalorian armor.


Omen'tyr Ashna

Cylenthia_Tavishaun
Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:50 pm
#26

At what point in the EU does it mention that Mandalorian Armor is STRICTLY made for Bounty Hunters? If memory serves me correctly, the Mandalorians are a warrior race that were wiped out by the Jedi or (save the Death watch faction). I realize that many people are up in arms about people running around appearing like Boba Fett (and I don't necessarily disagree with them either), however, people are asking for further content and here it is. Though I'm fairly new to the Commando organization, I do agree that a major revamp needs to take place in order to give a place to Commandos, however, it isn't necessarily true that Commandos in the EU are anything like commandos here on Earth in the 21st century. When I think of a commando for Star Wars, images of the storm troopers raiding the Mos Eisley starport and setting up a tripod mounted heavy cannon to shoot at Han and company. Anyhow, just wanted to drop my 2 credits into the pot here. Give Commandos some loving next...






Cylenthia Tavishaun
Master Brawler | Master Swordsman | Master Pikeman
Warrant Officer I, Imperial Army
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