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Thread: The Waiting Game.

mturnage
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:06 pm
#14






Novock wrote:

Its good to hear from you skeptic. Haven't seen you post in awhile. I still believe there is more to the wait the them "wanting to get it right." I have a feeling they are trying to work theCU around some marketing strategy tied with the release of Episode 3. Which if I'm right means around May for it to hit live servers.January is nearly gone and still not sandbox. the infamous summit was in August that was 5 months ago and the wonderful public rename of the revamp to the CU was 3 months ago. And where are we at? We have some nice pictures of some nice armor? We have some nice thoughts on how armor should work and a few tidbits about what they want to do with weapons. So it looks like to me just judging from the landscape of the past and comments made by Tyrant himself you are probably looking at a starting the actual testing in Feb. BETA wil start in March and run through through April. The magically it will hit live servers the beginning of May.


It sad that marketing is the key to fixing combat and not for adding content.We should be anxiously waiting real expansions new proffession maybe, new theme parks new planets, new quests and mission thatare worth while. Instead we are still waiting for comabt to be fixed.


I know I'm labeled a pessimist. I remember going back and forth with some of the optimist for saying that the sandbox would not start before the of the year. I got bashed and thats fine. I'm glad to see people being optimistic I wish I could be. But look it not only didn't start before the end of the year now january almost gone and still not start. We have heard for over a year "soon" from the devs. We have heard for months any day any day now. That sadest part to me is there is someone who knows and has had a good idea all along how long this was going to take or when those timelines are there to meet the marketing outline and yet they fed this "string out campaign" rather than being truthful. Delays are part of software development we all know that. but for SOE who has made their money in developing such games to have no idea how long such a project would take is absolutlely absurd and for SOE to say "soon" when they knew oherwise is just plain dissapointing.


I for one am beyond angry with the way combat has been treated. At this point if someone says to me they are thinking about buying the game I advise them not to. I can't e the only one out there that feels this way and the longer the wait the worse this is going to get. At this point they have taken a fix needed for the game and made it a sink or swim issue for the game due to their continued delay. If the delay continues there may not be much left to raise from the depths of the sea.






There is some truth here that I've been thinking for a while. With the coming of Ep III the Star Wars jaggernaught will be in full swing again and ppl will wanna buy all things Stars Wars. What I look for is a repackaging of SWG with JTL and marketed as a full game. Just a hunch, nothing to back it. Lucas and SOE have reinvested a lot in SWG and we will see the fruits of that soon.


Gonna be worth the wait? You know the devs are looking a the CU and thinking "if I don't get this one right, this game is done". I'm still optimistic about it. Imagine the game with a successfull CU. JTL, in my opinion, was successful. The devs have been concentrating on 'fun' instead 'well, this is an MMO and it should be that way' lately, that adds to the optimism.


The wait does suck, there's no good way around it. But, this is Star Wars. Star Wars is always worth the wait. I'm more antsy about seeing Ep III atm than I am the CU, and I want the CU BAD! They both will come.....




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TK-132
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:00 pm
#15

(You may not want to read this negative post just as a heads up.)

At this point I don't really care.

Though I got to agree with Novock.

Like when they said they hired 20 people. I wonder how many left or quit before then hmmm?

Well either way I suppose more is better.

I'm sick of them putsing around and stringing us out like this. Now having few players has it's up and downs for me. Typically more goofy OOC people are leaving while more RP are staying or converting. Then on the other all the non-RP people left are going jedi and force sensitive *bleck*

They still haven't even fixed the mods for that.

To be honest this isn't the SWG I remember. We use to have fun. We had a GCW. Missions on ground took time. there were no uber buffs and armor. Going to Dathomir was suicide.

Now it's go to Dathomir kill everything. Heck even I killed a Bull Rancor by myself once. That's just absurd though it's quite easy for others. This game isn't even really Star Wars it's all about grinding, loot camping, and mass geonocide. None of that stuff is really fun. Yet it's really all we have to do.

I dunno I just stopped waiting. I got so angry (well I'm still angry) that I just don't care any more. Honestly I could've built myself a uber template and be !PWNZ Master!
by now. They should've fixed all the numbers back in August with Combat. Everyone acts like if they don't add everything in the CU it will be unbalanced. That's garbage if they can't make a system and then add new weapons in to it without inbalance they need to get some new people.

I know they are just baiting us along, stringing us out and they've done a good job. That's all they want to do. Some people don't like the new faction armors and I must admit they don't look very Star Wars like at all.

I'd like to be happy to go "yea!" when I log into SWG but I don't. And I only play every other weekend. (That's how my schedule works out.) And I am disgruntled.

I'm just tired of being stuck like this being gimped. Even in RP PvP I lose everytime. Which is sad since you'd think a Commando would be the tough guy or something.

No just no more waiting. If a working CU comes it comes but I'm not going to let myself being toyed with like this. it's just not right do have people pay you and not tell them anything with what your doing. Leaving that armor FF alone has lead to wild speculation and criticism because they haven't fully explained it. We need all that info even if it's just theoretical. If they don't even have enough to post because it "might" change then something wrong. If they are so clueless as to what there needs to be there is going to be more inbalance cause they will cave into one groups demands and things will stray off from the balance.

Alpha should have started by now. This is just pathetic.

If the people who have the CU info are mad impatient you can only imagine how I feel at this point. I don' blame anyone here cause were all commandos stuck in the same boat. I'm probably crazy cause I really only rely on my commando weapons and have no other combat skills (Rest is devoted to once good professions like scout and medic which have saved my butt a lot especially medic. Scout makes getting past animals easier and I'm stupid enough to still make and use camps.)

Yes the Devs haven't nerfed us but have they fixed anything? Like the weird lines from the LP or the fact we can't even get any mods for our weapons?

I honestly feel Commando is the Kama Kazi profession which is probably why it pairs up so well with Tera Kasi.

At this point Commandos are just demolitions freaks with defunct explosives.

*bangs head on wall*



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StarNick
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:17 pm
#16

Fine be that way Mr Church....Ill put your bloody haunting ghost up for auction in our Tranquil City Slave Auction I!!!!



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Nicko_
Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:18 am
#17

We're all tire of waiting
Tired of untested issue that end in 'we do not know if this will ever be treated'
Tired of paying for a game that does leave people on the side lines.

I've tested wow on a french server. Can you think that : blizzard created several server dedicated per languages.
We had to choose a US one, upseting half the people on the server during the small time we get to play together.
And I could go on and on.
Well, I was realy happy with the swg character system. The other parts of the gameplay are starting to be a bore.

So right now, I'm waiting for some of this fun. I can't even get proper rp as covert people spit on stormtrooper but wont accept duels afterwards, or two Jedi pop, slay the whole squad and then /laugh.

Sorry for the rant, sometime, you just got to let it out.
Skeptic666
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:32 am
#18

BTW did i mention that I love you all?


If not



I DO!!!



YOU GUYS ROCK







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JohboBocal
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:45 am
#19

/sniff


I love you too man


/tear






Jobo & Jobi

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garvin
Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:30 pm
#20






Evelas wrote:





garvin wrote:








Evelas wrote:


SOE sucks, don't they? Thats why I went to WoW, Blizzard pwnz SOE






While I'll agree WoW is fun, there is a good reason why tons of people are leaving WoW already...mostly it has to do with (1)the fact that they can't keep their servers up... (2) because of their server issues, they aren't releasing any new copies of the game for the time being, so friends can't join up with you at this time... & (3) Once you hit the higher levels, the game get's kinda boring and lacks community connections...


So I'd have to disagree that Blizzard pwnz SOE...I'd even disagree that SOE pwnz Blizzard





1) I've never had any trouble with the servers being down, and on the rare occasion when it is I just play T:V


3) I'm fairly high up, and I still have that feeling that I've hardly done anything yet


Btw, Blizzard pwnz SOE because Blizzard made Starcraft. Can you argue against that one fact? Didn't think so.







Actually, StarCraft never held any desire for me...I have no connection to StarCraft...so I can argue that because it's all a matter of opinion...StarCraft is no Star Wars...Blizzard has a proven bad track record with their customer service and "follow-through"...more so then SOE.


As for the Servers...read their forums...and then cross check that with our forums and all the "I'm back" posts that have been posted through out the forums lately...you'll see a lot of folks leaving WoW and coming back due to the downtime and lag issues. This only impacts their more popular servers (with the exception ofa patch that went bad a little while back that effected all servers), but still, you'd think you'd focus on keeping the more popular servers happy...


By High up, I mean 55 and higher...again, read the forums over at WoW...they is a consensus (even by the WoW staff) that more is needed...people get bored fairly quickly once they feel like they've "accomplished" everything and especially if they aren't into PvP (which means Battlefields holds no sway)...


WoW is nice...it's fun and different...but comparatively, matching SWG and WoW back to back, I think SWG is technically superior to WoW in the overall scheme of things...WoW has a better set up on certain elements, but being a true MMO and interacting on a grand online level, I think SWG has WoW beat hands down...Playing WoW as a solo player feels like you are playing a offline game as much as being online...SWG practically forces player interaction.




Garvin Lansdowne
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StarNick
Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:34 pm
#21

Evelas...just don't mess with "The Garv"...dont mess with him



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loomis001
Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:25 pm
#22



Evelas wrote:


Skeptic666 wrote:
Yes boys and girls its here agian. First we all wait for the commando to be fixed and what happens. We get nerfed again and again. Even Garvin says that Justin G At least if I remember correctly he said that they know we are broken. To wait for the CURB. A year later here we are waiting for the curb. And guess what WE ARE STILL WAITING. For being a member in the Sand box. YIPPY!!
I am really excited. BUT......
Here I am listening to my brothers and sisters call out for information. Which I can't give. But I think what you all don't understand is all I am doing is waiting. And waiting. Yes I have some info you don't. Some which sound good on paper. But as for now I am in the same boat as before. I am waiting. As for now I am still here I still read the forums daily and keep up on all the info.
Its just SSDD if you know what I mean. If you are angry post it. Just dont be all crazy about it. post your concerns. I am seing a really bad decline on all the forums. And my Bria forum is pretty dead
I just wanted to stress to you all that I too am angry. I too am sick of holding just my FT in a battle. I don't know what to say. Right now I can't say anything uplifting for you guys because I am pretty sick and tired of waiting!


SOE sucks, don't they? Thats why I went to WoW, Blizzard pwnz SOE



wow sucks ballz i play wow but its too dam easy not to mention all the server probs wow having.



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Evelas
Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:48 pm
#23






garvin wrote:

Actually, StarCraft never held any desire for me...



Thats your problem right there, you spend too much time playing bugged games to be able to appreciate its simplicity (and lack of bugs).




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StarNick
Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:58 pm
#24

StarCraft is...old...


And not made by Westwood or Westwood incarnate...



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--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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blacke
Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:18 am
#25



Evelas wrote:


garvin wrote:

Actually, StarCraft never held any desire for me...


Thats your problem right there, you spend too much time playing bugged games to be able to appreciate its simplicity (and lack of bugs).




Get of your high horse Evelas by trying to dictate what is a good game and what is not to the world. Not everyone have the same preferense of gaming as you have so the taste will be different. Maybe it was it's simplicity that didn't appiel to him.

Second, SWG and WoW are so wastly different that a fair comparison is almost impossible. The basics of that is that SWG has such a dynamic skillsystem and WoW only preset templates, with the addition of talents.






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