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Thread: Armor Idea
Cassus Fett does not exsist. That is one of those made up legends.
Cassus Fett was a Mandalorian Cheiftan at Malachor V who, after surviving the battle, became a Bounty Hunter, who ended up being known for killing a high ranking Republic Officer.
See if Cassus is in any way related to Boba, he would have to be his grandfather. However Jango was an Oprhan at age and was in no way a Mandalorian. Jaster found Jango alone by himself and took pity on him. Jaster didn't have a wife or any children so he took Jango to be his successor. Jango was the son of simple farmers on Concord Dawn. He does not have super blood. He is a normal human being. However he pushed himself so hard he become one of the galaxy's best warriors. Jango doesn't rely on some super power, or great blood line. He is proof that anyone if they are good enough can become great warriors.
Cassus Fett was alive a good 3000 years before Jango and Boba. He wouldnt be their grandfather. I never said Cassus was Jangos father, I said that Jango is cassus' decendant. Jango was born a human, with mostly human blood, because after 3000 years of human breeding, mandalorian blood will thin out, but it is there. He has Mandalorian Blood, you cant reject that. Does he need it? Heck no, it barely does anything. But he is a Mandalorian, a bit, through genetics. And fully a Mandalorian through training.
You are right the Mandalorians are Supercommandos, but they are normal people. They are just highly skilled Mercenaries.
I never said the Mandalorians are Supercommandos. The Supercommando Codex was written by Jaster Mereel telling how, if a Mandalorian wished to be, to be a Mercenary OR bounty hunter, and still live by the ancient Canons of Honor. Mandalorians were not Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters. Simply, after so much war, they got the love to fight. When their clans broke up, they started Mercenary work.
Jaster is Boba's Mandalorian Grandfather if you will.
That he is. And Boba took Jasters name as an Alias.
Mandolorians and the Sith were both Species.
However both those races died out.
Except for Mandalorians. There are no pure-mandalorians, that is true. But Jango and Boba have Mandalorian Blood, even if it is just a little.
But a fanatical Jedi recreated the Sith, a Dark Jedi Cult in other words. They all became quite powerful, more so then most of the Jedi. This is where the Sith Lords and such that we know of come from. However they were power hungry and killed each other. However one Lord survived. Darth Bane. He made it so there were only two very powerful Lords an Apprentice and a Master. When the Apprentice became powerful enough he would kill his Master. And so it would continue. The Sith hide themselves for many many many years. Thus the Jedi believed them dead. However Sidious crafted a great plan, and eventually took over the Galaxy. (Which he couldnt have done without the Mandalorians)However he broke many rules, by training many Dark Jedi, he was also determined to be Master of the Sith forever. However he did not expect Vader to kill him. Sidious believed he controlled Vader. Thus Sidious plan's were ruined and even when he did return he was never able to succeed with Luke around, who had only become more powerful.
The Mandalorian Mercenaries are very similair. The Mandalorian Race was a great warrior people. However they died out. A group of Mercenaries took up the name however to install fear into their enemies. They also trained themselves so well to live up to their deadliness as well in battle. It turned out the Mercenary group would become more legedary. Actually they became so good and such threat the Jedi felt they had to be killed.
Mandalorians are NOT mercenaries by nature. They became them. and also, news flash, the Mandalorian Race were peaceful till a 7000 year war bred them for the love to fight. Mandalorians are not Mercenaries by nature. They are not Bounty Hunters by nature. They only do those jobs because it satisfies 2 things: 1- the love to fight, and 2- the need for credits and power
The Jedi set a trap and killed almost all of the Mandalorians. A few including Jango escaped. However the rest were either killed or captured later. Only Jango survived. And Jango passed on the Mandolorian ways to Boba.
Shysa and Dala? What about them? They were Mandalorians who returned the Mandalore to free the planet from Imperial-Allowed Slavery.
Jango always knew he could die, so he left a book behind to guide Boba cause after his Mercenary Group was wiped out Jango became a Bounty Hunter. Since that was somewhat similair and to his likings.
That book is the SuperCommando Codex. He also left Boba videos. Boba trained himself most of the ways.
Jango became the source of the Clone Army, after killed a Mad Jedi and her cult. This was set up Tyrannus to find a good source for the Clones. Jango succeeded. Tyranus or Dooku as we knwo of him could of easily killed the Jedi and Jango realized this.
Jango made a deal with Tyranus, besides the money prize. That was to have a Clone of him unaltered, who was Boba.
Jango trained the Clone Army, and many of the Special Commando groups, like the ARC Troopers who are actually more of a Heavy Firepower Unit.
The ARC Troopers were not trained Just by Jango. He brought in fellow Mandalorians to help train them.
When Jango died the Clone Army was ruined. The Clones had to train themselves, which meant they would slowly lose vital training likely. Also they could not make Clones anymore without the original source. You cannot keep making Clones off of Clones, it doesn't work. That is why the Republic was desperate to end the war.
Take DNA. Clone it. Clone it. Clone it. Clone it. Clone it. Unless in SW, DNA is used up every time they clone it, they wouldnt need Jango there for all that.
And that is why Humans slowly became more dominate in the Empire. Evetually Human Recruits replaced the Clone Troopers, as Storm Troopers. The advantages are you can gather a lot more Soldiers faster, through conscription and recruitment. You can also get better soldiers, since there are some people in the Galaxy who are better Fighters then even the Clone Troopers. The disadvantage though is you get a lot of not so good troops too, since they are humans. But all STs are trained very hard. And they trained to be that of once the Clones once were. That is why they all the same Armor still, and don't say much. People are suppose to think that they are still Clones thus putting some fear into the Enemies, because STs don't seem Human due to their discipline.
Yet they still are not Mandalorians.
Don't believe what I've said about the Mandalorians so far and Jango looks right here. See Reydon you are basing your info off an old comic, before Episode II yes?
Some of what you said was true, yes. I have replied to it in the way that it was correct or incorrect. And no, I am basing my info off of online reserch, talking with someone who reads comics about Mandalorians, reading Books, and hearing stories.
See now that story is one the Fett legends. Boba is very mysterious, thus there are many stories of him and his Mandalorian background. However we now know the truth. The truth is that Boba is the last Mandalorian. There are no others trained in the true Mandalorian ways. The Death Watch are splinter cell of different ways and are fake Mandalorians. This is from the official Star Wars site.
He is NOT THE LAST MANDALORIAN. Shut the heck up dude. Dala and Shysa ARE Mandalorians. The Mandalorian ProtectorsARE Mandalorians. Boba BECOMES one of the last, but then re-builds the Mandalorian Protectors when he returns to Mandalore to become Mandalore.
Jango Fett was orphaned at an early age, the son of simple Concord Dawn farmers killed by brutal marauders. At the age of ten, he was picked up by Journeyman Protector Jaster Mereel, who introduced Fett to a harsh world of mercenary life. He was raised among great warriors, learning to survive in the rugged frontiers. Though the Mandalorian supercommandos were wiped out by the Jedi Knights, Jango was one of the few left to still wear the armor.
And? We know this already....
Years of physical conditioning and training honed him into one of the most feared bounty hunters in the underworld. Not even Black Sun Vigos were safe from his dual blaster pistols. On occasion, Fett would tangle with Zam Wesell, as their talents would overlap on similar assignments. Though he preferred working solo, the two teamed up when it was prudent. The two shared a misadventure in tracking down a rare artifact from Seylott, which granted its user incredible power.
I know this. I know this. I know this. I know this. I know this, and I know the last part.
Fett all but disappeared from bounty hunting circles as he took time to raise his son. He sought to experience what his life might have been like had he been raised by a caring guardian. Still, if the credits were right or the challenge appealed to him, he would don his battle armor periodically and venture from his hiding place.
Duh. I know this.
(Also I have no idea why I was mispelling Mandalorian earlier, guess I was up to late.)
Also Mandalore is not listed as planet in the Databank, so I must assume it is un-official. This also explains more, and is from the Official Site again.
Maybe because the Empire doesnt want Boba to know that they are supporting those enslaving his home planet. Even the Empire wouldnt want to piss off Boba Fett. He tore apart 3 IG-88's, and proved to be the single greatest Bounty Hunter in all of Star Wars History, imo.
Many legends propagate as to the origins of Boba Fett -- perhaps by design, since the uncertainty derived from a corrupted backstory of half-truths only adds to his mysterious and deadly aura. One tale tells of Fett being a failed stormtrooper who killed his commanding officer. Another has him being the commanding officer of a fabled group of warriors from Mandalore decimated by the Jedi Knights. A third account tells of a Journeyman Protector from Concord Dawn named Jaster Mereel who adopted the mask and guise when he was convicted of treason.
Fett has kept his early, vulnerable years private. The times he spent playing with his toys in a sparsely furnished Kamino apartment, his guardians Taun We and MU-12, the quiet moments he would share with his father catching rollerfish -- all quiet memories buried under a hard callous of vengeful thoughts and malice.
After Jango's death, Boba picked up the pieces of his shattered life with the help of his "black book," an encoded message unit written by Jango with instructions for survival should Boba ever find himself alone.(this black book is the Supercommando Codex)After the Battle of Geonosis, Boba quietly buried his father's body and marked the grave with a simple "J.F." He sought out his father's benefactor, Darth Tyranus, who had the remainder of Jango's stipend.
Among the first records of Fett's activities were during the early years of the Empire. Fett was hired by the gangster Sise Fromm to dispose of young speeder pilot Thall Joben and his friends. Though the Fromms were enemies of the Jabba the Hutt -- Fett's sometime employer -- the hunter took the contract to square off a favor he owed Fromm.
I know all of this, and a lot of it was BS, which I pointed out. You really need to look up some more info.
But when Fett says he's the last Mandalorians I kinda figure that's what he means.
Ok scrap what I said earlier. But how about a color option. Even you must disagree with random colors unless you want a clown Mandalorian Armor.
Or are you only worthy to wear a matching suit when you've gone through the DWB enough to get pieces of all the same color?
I would think three times is enough.
And to be honest if you could defeat a Death Watch Guard, then couldn't you just take thier Armor? Actually that would be a nice feature to the game. Kill an ST and get ST Armor. Honestly that's realistic.
But nevermind me I have no idea what I'm talking about.
"But nevermind me I have no idea what I'm talking about."
Well I'm not gonna argue with you further.
But when Fett says he's the last Mandalorians I kinda figure that's what he means.
Quote?
Ok scrap what I said earlier. But how about a color option. Even you must disagree with random colors unless you want a clown Mandalorian Armor.
Or are you only worthy to wear a matching suit when you've gone through the DWB enough to get pieces of all the same color?
I do, however, believe that the armor should have, on each piece, a 1 time only option to alter its color.
I would think three times is enough.
3 DWB runs =a suit? Or 3 times to alter armor color? Either way I disagree, and have stated why.
And to be honest if you could defeat a Death Watch Guard, then couldn't you just take thier Armor? Actually that would be a nice feature to the game. Kill an ST and get ST Armor. Honestly that's realistic.
Since when is SWG realistic? At that, when is Star Wars realistic? It's Sci-Fi for a reason. As for no armor. Who knows. SoE would cover it with some Bio-Link crap or something. But that could go for all games and all weapons.
Reydon wrote:
Im just going to pick through this as I read down it, since it is on a subject I feel I am close to.
As many of you have probably seen Mandolorian Armor is almost non-exsistent. I find it sad I can easily see Jedi everyday yet no a single person with Mandolorian Armor.
No offense, but there are according to the timeline probably more remaining suits of Mandolorian Armor around then Jedi.(But Mandalorian armor is something of extremely valuble to the Mandalorian Race. Boba Fett murdered Jodo Kast for wearing a suit he did not Earn. Just because jedi is easy to get, shouldnt mean Mandalorian Armor should. Assaid by Volto,Mandalorian armor is one of the highest symbols of respect in the SW world. It should NOT be treated lightly. I am happy with only a few suits being in the entire game)Mandolorian Armor is very tough and probably could be salvaged many years after. However the Devs have given us an EU thing, where the Death Watch still can produce the fabeled Armor. (Umm, yes, Death Watch, in this time period, is one of the biggest Mandalorian things out there. Even if they are the evil mandalorians, they still produce the armor) However if you notice it is actually slightly different then the Armor desgin that Boba and Jango had. So really it is not "true Mandolorian Armor. Thus I would not be angered to see lots of elderly players wearing it. I mean look at all the BH trainers with it jeesh... (Mandalorian armor is crafted many different way, and has evolved in a way, with the race. There are many different styles, but they are all crafted by the Mandalorians, therefore, is Mandalorian Armor.)
So.
(Forgive me if I don't know exactly what I'm talking about as I never made it through all of the DWB. I wonder if it's possible now without having a team of Jedi?) (you need about 2 jedi if you want to craft. 1 if you just want to go down there. But that 1 has to be a master defender, for both situations, and in the craft room situation, the second jedi needs to feed the MDef force power for AI)
When you get to the Crafting Station at the bottom of the DWB in the mines you may load an entire suit of BH Armor into the Crafting Station. To use the Station you must be a Master Armorsmith. Once you place all the BH Armor Pieces into the Station you will be able to turn into Mandolorian Armor, by processing it. Once done you can select the Color for each piece of Armor. There is a 5 minute time limit but you should be able to this as it simply put in, press the button, color the Armor and wa la!
The Stats of each Piece of Armor is the same regardless of the BH Armor except for one thing. The Condition of each BH Armor Piece will determine the Condition of the Madnolorian Armor. So if you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of zero you will get a Mandolorian Armor with a Condition of zero. If you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of 50,000 you will get a Mandolorian Helmet with 250,000. Yes the condition is multiplied by 5. Besides that the Stat of each Piece will be as follow.
8500 Kinetic
6500 All Others
+50 Health
So a full suit of Mandolorian Armor has 8500 Kinetic Protection, 6500 Other Protections, and gives the wearer an extra 500 Health if your wearing every piece, incuding the Gloves, Boots, and Belt.
Now the only Change to the Jetpack is has to be made by a Master Weaponsmith. All the Components need are still required, but there is a new option. If the Master Weaponsmith has a Rocket Launcher they can put it into the Jet Pack. By putting the Rocket Launcher into the Jetpack, the Jetpack can noe fire Rockets. The Rockets will have the same Stats as that of the Rocket Launcher built in, but there is a twist. When the user turns on their Jetpack, so when they are flying, the can fire Rockets at Enemies as well. However you can only fire Rockets while flying. Just so the actual Weapon in-game becomes completly useless. (My reasoning for this is if the RL is gonna be resource expensive make it good for something!) Umm, are these your ideas? Because almost all of this is totally untrue to what I have heard.
You should also be able to craft the Jetpack in-time along with a full suit of Mandorlorian Armor to make the trip really worthwhile. The Jetpack should also have color options. Also the Jetpack should have 5000 HP so you can fly around for while and so it don't blow in one hit. Every minute of flying takes 100 HP of the Jetpack so watch it. No, Mandalorian armor and jetpacks are a symbol of honor and respect in the Mandalorian Race. If you make it this easy, everyone will be able to wear it, and get it, easily. Mandalorians dont want that. Mandalorian Armor is a trial to get. A lifetime of commitment. If you want the armor, you MUST be ready to sweat your own blood and bleed from your eyes to get it. My friend Turel has spent a long time working for the armor, having parts for 3 more pieces of armor, and having the helmet and chestplate himself. He does it because he is a Mandalorian. Mandalorian armor is NOT something to be given out lightly.
Also Mandolorian Armor, and the Jetpack, can only be worn by a Master Bounty Hunter or a Master Commando or a Master Squad Leader.
What do you guys think? I mean something along those lines sounds right doesn't it?
Going to refer Turel here. Because what you are saying, or suggesting, would be a slap to Mandalorian history. I roleplay a Mandalorian, and I know how hard it is suppost to be to get. Read above. You better be ready to work your ass off to get this armor if you want it.
Also Players should be able to change Clone Armor to any type so anyone can wear it.
Agreed
I think the mandos have the right idea. (Oh, and BTW I have alot of respect for the two of you. I hope it shows :0)
I don't have any of the armor yet, but obviously I don't want it to be a cakewalk.
And you have to ask yourself further why should a commando wear it? Most people don't read the books and whatnot, they just watch the movies. And anyone who wears mando in the movies is a BH.
Not to mention you want to make another great status symbol (The jetpack) just as easy to get. Not saying that it wouldn't be a better time getting both the armor and the jetpack, I still wouldn't want it like that. Again, the only people in the whole of the SW movies that have it are jango and boba. Two people, out of how many? I want it to be that rare in SWG.
Honestly, after the travesty that is jedi, I want all that can to be a little harder to get then the normal power gamer is willing to do. Getting that suit and jetpack was one of my first SWG goals, along with my AV-21. Make them easier to get, and I guess I'll just have to make new goals.
Next thing you know he'll want the black sun pilot helmets drop from lvl 20 npcs.
I think the mandos have the right idea. (Oh, and BTW I have alot of respect for the two of you. I hope it shows :0)
Thanks man. We work hard at what we do.
I don't have any of the armor yet, but obviously I don't want it to be a cakewalk.
Same here man.
And you have to ask yourself further why should a commando wear it? Most people don't read the books and whatnot, they just watch the movies. And anyone who wears mando in the movies is a BH.
Yeah, so people get the wrong impression, thinking all Mandalorians are Bounty Hunters, or only BH wear the armor. But actually, if you look in history of Star Wars, deeper then most: KOTOR1 and 2 has one of the coolest Mandalorian Commandos. Canderous Ordo. I feel strongly in the ability to call him a commando. He loves guns, he is a tough guy, he has a flattop military haircut, and is, in essense, what a Commando is. Mandalorians back then were Commandos. They simply became BH and Mercenaries over time. Even more, they were also Squad Leaders. Only the few exceptional Mandalorians were trained to be Squad Leaders. Meaning, they were also a big part of that. I dont consider Boba Fett a bounty hunter, only in a small way. True, he does hunt bounties, but he does them in a unique way. In the beginning of his story in "The Tales of the Bounty Hunters", he is to be exiled from a planet for murdering someone. They say it was for no reason. The bounty was to kill a kid for deflowering this businessmans daughter. As Boba says, Most BH would have rejected such a thing, because laws vary, and most wouldnt fuss over that. But Boba Fett did it because morality never changed. Boba is unique to any other Bounty Hunter I have seen. His ability to use his feelings, over mind, saves his life at times. The IG-88 was chasing him, so he took a nosedive, the IG-88 said it had a 0% chance of winning with his tactic, but Boba used a strong inertial dampener to stop him, then ion blast the thing. He is not like Normal Bounty Hunters. Why am I saying all this, you may be asking? Because to prove a point: All Bounty Hunters are not Mandalorians. And certainly not the reverse. I hate when people think so.
Not to mention you want to make another great status symbol (The jetpack) just as easy to get. Not saying that it wouldn't be a better time getting both the armor and the jetpack, I still wouldn't want it like that. Again, the only people in the whole of the SW movies that have it are jango and boba. Two people, out of how many? I want it to be that rare in SWG.
The jetpacks are the easiest to get, but certainly a lot harder then most items. There are like 20-30 on Ahazi I think. only 7 helms, 3 chestplates, 1 pair of pants, and that is it. The point is, no part of Mandalorian Armor Suit is easy, but the jetpack was made easier then it should be. And I am fine with that.
Honestly, after the travesty that is jedi, I want all that can to be a little harder to get then the normal power gamer is willing to do. Getting that suit and jetpack was one of my first SWG goals, along with my AV-21. Make them easier to get, and I guess I'll just have to make new goals.
Once Mandalorian Armor's rarity goes, there will no longer be a goal except for "Be a master temp jedi". I've been playing this game a lot longer then I normally would. why? Hope of getting Mandalorian armor and jetpack.
Next thing you know he'll want the black sun pilot helmets drop from lvl 20 npcs.
Yeah, probably.
Reydon wrote:
Reydon wrote:
Im just going to pick through this as I read down it, since it is on a subject I feel I am close to.
As many of you have probably seen Mandolorian Armor is almost non-exsistent. I find it sad I can easily see Jedi everyday yet no a single person with Mandolorian Armor.
No offense, but there are according to the timeline probably more remaining suits of Mandolorian Armor around then Jedi.(But Mandalorian armor is something of extremely valuble to the Mandalorian Race. Boba Fett murdered Jodo Kast for wearing a suit he did not Earn. Just because jedi is easy to get, shouldnt mean Mandalorian Armor should. Assaid by Volto,Mandalorian armor is one of the highest symbols of respect in the SW world. It should NOT be treated lightly. I am happy with only a few suits being in the entire game)Mandolorian Armor is very tough and probably could be salvaged many years after. However the Devs have given us an EU thing, where the Death Watch still can produce the fabeled Armor. (Umm, yes, Death Watch, in this time period, is one of the biggest Mandalorian things out there. Even if they are the evil mandalorians, they still produce the armor) However if you notice it is actually slightly different then the Armor desgin that Boba and Jango had. So really it is not "true Mandolorian Armor. Thus I would not be angered to see lots of elderly players wearing it. I mean look at all the BH trainers with it jeesh... (Mandalorian armor is crafted many different way, and has evolved in a way, with the race. There are many different styles, but they are all crafted by the Mandalorians, therefore, is Mandalorian Armor.)
So.
(Forgive me if I don't know exactly what I'm talking about as I never made it through all of the DWB. I wonder if it's possible now without having a team of Jedi?) (you need about 2 jedi if you want to craft. 1 if you just want to go down there. But that 1 has to be a master defender, for both situations, and in the craft room situation, the second jedi needs to feed the MDef force power for AI)
When you get to the Crafting Station at the bottom of the DWB in the mines you may load an entire suit of BH Armor into the Crafting Station. To use the Station you must be a Master Armorsmith. Once you place all the BH Armor Pieces into the Station you will be able to turn into Mandolorian Armor, by processing it. Once done you can select the Color for each piece of Armor. There is a 5 minute time limit but you should be able to this as it simply put in, press the button, color the Armor and wa la!
The Stats of each Piece of Armor is the same regardless of the BH Armor except for one thing. The Condition of each BH Armor Piece will determine the Condition of the Madnolorian Armor. So if you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of zero you will get a Mandolorian Armor with a Condition of zero. If you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of 50,000 you will get a Mandolorian Helmet with 250,000. Yes the condition is multiplied by 5. Besides that the Stat of each Piece will be as follow.
8500 Kinetic
6500 All Others
+50 Health
So a full suit of Mandolorian Armor has 8500 Kinetic Protection, 6500 Other Protections, and gives the wearer an extra 500 Health if your wearing every piece, incuding the Gloves, Boots, and Belt.
Now the only Change to the Jetpack is has to be made by a Master Weaponsmith. All the Components need are still required, but there is a new option. If the Master Weaponsmith has a Rocket Launcher they can put it into the Jet Pack. By putting the Rocket Launcher into the Jetpack, the Jetpack can noe fire Rockets. The Rockets will have the same Stats as that of the Rocket Launcher built in, but there is a twist. When the user turns on their Jetpack, so when they are flying, the can fire Rockets at Enemies as well. However you can only fire Rockets while flying. Just so the actual Weapon in-game becomes completly useless. (My reasoning for this is if the RL is gonna be resource expensive make it good for something!) Umm, are these your ideas? Because almost all of this is totally untrue to what I have heard.
You should also be able to craft the Jetpack in-time along with a full suit of Mandorlorian Armor to make the trip really worthwhile. The Jetpack should also have color options. Also the Jetpack should have 5000 HP so you can fly around for while and so it don't blow in one hit. Every minute of flying takes 100 HP of the Jetpack so watch it. No, Mandalorian armor and jetpacks are a symbol of honor and respect in the Mandalorian Race. If you make it this easy, everyone will be able to wear it, and get it, easily. Mandalorians dont want that. Mandalorian Armor is a trial to get. A lifetime of commitment. If you want the armor, you MUST be ready to sweat your own blood and bleed from your eyes to get it. My friend Turel has spent a long time working for the armor, having parts for 3 more pieces of armor, and having the helmet and chestplate himself. He does it because he is a Mandalorian. Mandalorian armor is NOT something to be given out lightly.
Also Mandolorian Armor, and the Jetpack, can only be worn by a Master Bounty Hunter or a Master Commando or a Master Squad Leader.
What do you guys think? I mean something along those lines sounds right doesn't it?
Going to refer Turel here. Because what you are saying, or suggesting, would be a slap to Mandalorian history. I roleplay a Mandalorian, and I know how hard it is suppost to be to get. Read above. You better be ready to work your ass off to get this armor if you want it.
Also Players should be able to change Clone Armor to any type so anyone can wear it.
Agreed
And as it has just been proven, your disaprovial is based on your own ability to get the armor. You have a buddy that can get it, you are going to get yours, and you want yours to remain l33t. It has nothing to do with your roleplay and such, its just another stingy loot hog shooting down ideas.
Wrong. Anyone can get the armor. You just have to work at it. Do I have one piece of Mandalorian? No. Am I close? No. Do I have the BL or PLC? no. Do I have a crafter? No. Do I have a team to make it? no. I have NOTHING to get it. I cant get it easily. But I know, in time, I could, like everyone else. I disapprove of this idea because it degrades the armor. I dont have it, but I still respect it. Anyone who wears it shows that they have the strength to go through DWB back and fourth to get the armor, the hardest stuff in the game to get. DONT be so stupid as to think I dont want it to be popular, beacuse I dont want my armor to be less 1337. If I hada piece, I would still be like this to. I dont believe anyone should be able to get the armor easily. It goes against all traditions of the Mandalorians.
I am a roleplay Mandalorian. I roleplay through what I know of the Supercommando Codex. I rp a mandalorian wandering the galaxy, who has found a small band of them, and joined them. Do not call my roleplay into question. In Mandalorian Culture, the armor is "the" most valuble thing. You must earn the armor to wear it. If not, you are killed.
So shut up, and sit down. Because you odviously know nothing.
((as for delay in posts, my old comp broke))
Not everyone roleplays a mandolorian. Not everyone spends 20 hours a day researching mandalorian customs and cultures. Don't talk down to people cause of that.
And as for the armor, I honestly see no problem with being able to craft a whole suit in one run. If someone can assemble a full suit of BH, 10 PLCs, 10 Binary liquids, and fight down to the bottom, frankly, they deserve the armor.
Simply remove the ejection after crafting. If you can fight your way to another crafting room, then by all means, let us craft a second piece.
Imperial Shock TrooperAnd as for the armor, I honestly see no problem with being able to craft a whole suit in one run. If someone can assemble a full suit of BH, 10 PLCs, 10 Binary liquids, and fight down to the bottom, frankly, they deserve the armor. And what is the next step? PLCs and BL's drop more? 1 piece per suit? No. The system is fine as it is, probably the only good system. Leave it alone, or we face changing it all. I see a major problem with all in 1 run, because it makes it to easy. Heck, Turel is having onehard @$$of a time trying to get a run for his 3 pieces that are ready, but he cant. He has to get other peoples jetpacks made, and then organize for his armor. This is another challenge to getting it. Each time you go down there, 1 piece of armor. It gives an extra challenge. There are rich people who have a billion credits, and could buy every component, and make it in 1 run. No, they should have to take the challenge of getting it down there 10 times.
Simply remove the ejection after crafting. If you can fight your way to another crafting room, then by all means, let us craft a second piece.
and then when your jedi dies, you die, the crafter dies, you all have to respawn. You cant get rezed and leave. The system is fine, leave it alone.
Message Edited by Reydon on 09-01-2005 07:03 PM
Reydon wrote:
Not everyone roleplays a mandolorian.Ok? And? I do. Star Wars Galaxies should be as accurate to Star Wars as possible. This is, however, probably the only accurate thing. Just because you dont rp mandalorian, doesnt mean you should get the armor easy. Kind of like saying, since I dontrp a jedi, I should get master template in a day of grinding.Not everyone spends 20 hours a day researching mandalorian customs and cultures. I've spent no more then 1 hour reading up on their history and culture. All the rest came from games. Don't talk down to people cause of that. I talk down anyone who tries to go against anothers culture
And as for the armor, I honestly see no problem with being able to craft a whole suit in one run. If someone can assemble a full suit of BH, 10 PLCs, 10 Binary liquids, and fight down to the bottom, frankly, they deserve the armor. And what is the next step? PLCs and BL's drop more? 1 piece per suit? No. The system is fine as it is, probably the only good system. Leave it alone, or we face changing it all. I see a major problem with all in 1 run, because it makes it to easy. Heck, Turel is having onehard @$$of a time trying to get a run for his 3 pieces that are ready, but he cant. He has to get other peoples jetpacks made, and then organize for his armor. This is another challenge to getting it. Each time you go down there, 1 piece of armor. It gives an extra challenge. There are rich people who have a billion credits, and could buy every component, and make it in 1 run. No, they should have to take the challenge of getting it down there 10 times.
Simply remove the ejection after crafting. If you can fight your way to another crafting room, then by all means, let us craft a second piece.
and then when your jedi dies, you die, the crafter dies, you all have to respawn. You cant get rezed and leave. The system is fine, leave it alone.
Message Edited by Reydon on 09-01-200507:03 PM
Accuracy is out the window. The armor is insanely hard to get, and while it shouldn't be a cake walk, I think it needs to be tuned down just a bit.
We're not bashing anyone's culture, we're just stationg our opinions.
Reydon wrote:
Im just going to pick through this as I read down it, since it is on a subject I feel I am close to.
As many of you have probably seen Mandolorian Armor is almost non-exsistent. I find it sad I can easily see Jedi everyday yet no a single person with Mandolorian Armor.
No offense, but there are according to the timeline probably more remaining suits of Mandolorian Armor around then Jedi.(But Mandalorian armor is something of extremely valuble to the Mandalorian Race. Boba Fett murdered Jodo Kast for wearing a suit he did not Earn. Just because jedi is easy to get, shouldnt mean Mandalorian Armor should. Assaid by Volto,Mandalorian armor is one of the highest symbols of respect in the SW world. It should NOT be treated lightly. I am happy with only a few suits being in the entire game)Mandolorian Armor is very tough and probably could be salvaged many years after. However the Devs have given us an EU thing, where the Death Watch still can produce the fabeled Armor. (Umm, yes, Death Watch, in this time period, is one of the biggest Mandalorian things out there. Even if they are the evil mandalorians, they still produce the armor) However if you notice it is actually slightly different then the Armor desgin that Boba and Jango had. So really it is not "true Mandolorian Armor. Thus I would not be angered to see lots of elderly players wearing it. I mean look at all the BH trainers with it jeesh... (Mandalorian armor is crafted many different way, and has evolved in a way, with the race. There are many different styles, but they are all crafted by the Mandalorians, therefore, is Mandalorian Armor.)
So.
(Forgive me if I don't know exactly what I'm talking about as I never made it through all of the DWB. I wonder if it's possible now without having a team of Jedi?) (you need about 2 jedi if you want to craft. 1 if you just want to go down there. But that 1 has to be a master defender, for both situations, and in the craft room situation, the second jedi needs to feed the MDef force power for AI)
When you get to the Crafting Station at the bottom of the DWB in the mines you may load an entire suit of BH Armor into the Crafting Station. To use the Station you must be a Master Armorsmith. Once you place all the BH Armor Pieces into the Station you will be able to turn into Mandolorian Armor, by processing it. Once done you can select the Color for each piece of Armor. There is a 5 minute time limit but you should be able to this as it simply put in, press the button, color the Armor and wa la!
The Stats of each Piece of Armor is the same regardless of the BH Armor except for one thing. The Condition of each BH Armor Piece will determine the Condition of the Madnolorian Armor. So if you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of zero you will get a Mandolorian Armor with a Condition of zero. If you put in a BH Helmet with a Condition of 50,000 you will get a Mandolorian Helmet with 250,000. Yes the condition is multiplied by 5. Besides that the Stat of each Piece will be as follow.
8500 Kinetic
6500 All Others
+50 Health
So a full suit of Mandolorian Armor has 8500 Kinetic Protection, 6500 Other Protections, and gives the wearer an extra 500 Health if your wearing every piece, incuding the Gloves, Boots, and Belt.
Now the only Change to the Jetpack is has to be made by a Master Weaponsmith. All the Components need are still required, but there is a new option. If the Master Weaponsmith has a Rocket Launcher they can put it into the Jet Pack. By putting the Rocket Launcher into the Jetpack, the Jetpack can noe fire Rockets. The Rockets will have the same Stats as that of the Rocket Launcher built in, but there is a twist. When the user turns on their Jetpack, so when they are flying, the can fire Rockets at Enemies as well. However you can only fire Rockets while flying. Just so the actual Weapon in-game becomes completly useless. (My reasoning for this is if the RL is gonna be resource expensive make it good for something!) Umm, are these your ideas? Because almost all of this is totally untrue to what I have heard.
You should also be able to craft the Jetpack in-time along with a full suit of Mandorlorian Armor to make the trip really worthwhile. The Jetpack should also have color options. Also the Jetpack should have 5000 HP so you can fly around for while and so it don't blow in one hit. Every minute of flying takes 100 HP of the Jetpack so watch it. No, Mandalorian armor and jetpacks are a symbol of honor and respect in the Mandalorian Race. If you make it this easy, everyone will be able to wear it, and get it, easily. Mandalorians dont want that. Mandalorian Armor is a trial to get. A lifetime of commitment. If you want the armor, you MUST be ready to sweat your own blood and bleed from your eyes to get it. My friend Turel has spent a long time working for the armor, having parts for 3 more pieces of armor, and having the helmet and chestplate himself. He does it because he is a Mandalorian. Mandalorian armor is NOT something to be given out lightly.
Also Mandolorian Armor, and the Jetpack, can only be worn by a Master Bounty Hunter or a Master Commando or a Master Squad Leader.
What do you guys think? I mean something along those lines sounds right doesn't it?
Going to refer Turel here. Because what you are saying, or suggesting, would be a slap to Mandalorian history. I roleplay a Mandalorian, and I know how hard it is suppost to be to get. Read above. You better be ready to work your ass off to get this armor if you want it.
Also Players should be able to change Clone Armor to any type so anyone can wear it.
Agreed