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Thanks for taking the time to some testing, i've done some of my own but havent seen any threads about people testing flame dots.

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Heorot wrote:

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Zhorx wrote:

The fire dot for a Flamethrower attack is 10% of the initial damage before armor and resists, ie 10 % of the damage in your combat log, this damage does not scale with BF.

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I'm confused by this statement. I've killed NS Elders with a Flame Tick, but they have 100% heat resistance.

Also, the damage tick does scale with targets BF.

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That supports what you're seeing.

Say you hit a NS elder for 10k, even though you get no over the head damage, you still got a 1000 damage flame tick, because it is calculated from the pre-armor level, pre-resist hit - ie 10 % of the damage in your combat log.

PS: hey a'ker haven't seen you around in a while, you do the vette at all anymore? We're down to one a week or so these days. I didn't realize you had a commando.

Steady [GWIS]

Ahh, I follow you now.

I've also seen some wierd instances of flame ticks rising, but wasn't ever able to pin it down. I once had a single fs2 ticking 6.5k+ damage. (wish i could replicate that lol)

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GWSteady wrote:
I've also seen some wierd instances of flame ticks rising, but wasn't ever able to pin it down. I once had a single fs2 ticking 6.5k+ damage. (wish i could replicate that lol)

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I can get flame ticks up to 6.5k pretty often on Elders, sometimes higher, biggest tick I've seen from a 1.2k max FT was around 11k per tick.

... Yeah, that's about twice as good as a good Krayt thrower. Gimmegimmegimme!

Message Edited by Vurtorax on 09-01-2004 04:09 PM

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Heorot wrote:

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GWSteady wrote:
That supports what you're seeing.

Say you hit a NS elder for 10k, even though you get no over the head damage, you still got a 1000 damage flame tick, because it is calculated from the pre-armor level, pre-resist hit - ie 10 % of the damage in your combat log.

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Sorry wasn't being clear in what I said. As the mob's BF increases, the flame tick increases. The easiest way to see this is to apply mind/action disease that raises BF, but does not damage health. You can watch your flame tick floaty increase over time.

ps - been busy out of game, but I'm always up for taggin along with the Ownage train.

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Aah, well there are actually two dots you get from a fire. One of them is a non wounding DoT that is 10% of the combat spam damage, the other is a wounding dot. The wounding dot starts off at 2% of the initial damage you do to a mob but it increases with BF, ie as the mob gets wounds/BF from your fire ticks the wounding part of your DoT will increase.
I am busy doing the cross server war on bloodfin atm so i don't have time to test this further atm but i will in the future.

This is really good when you are killing for example Elders and Krayts as they have a full HAM bar that you can wound. In pvp tho since you cannot wound the buffed part of someones health the scaling is less important.

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Staveeno wrote:

I see wierd stuff happening with flame ticks, It seems that wounds will push the pool smaller and damage grows with the ticket but will push the non-damage area off

For example, Lets say u have a 1000 pt pool. and you have 100 wounds and 100 damage, so u have 800 of the red bar left. So now lets say you have a flame tick that does 100 wounds and 50 damage, now the pool has 200 wounds and 150 damage, leaving only 650 of the non damage bar left. So u lose 150 pool pts even though the tick only did 50 "white area" damage. Can anyone else confirm that this is what happens?

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Zhorx wrote:

Aah, well there are actually two dots you get from a fire. One of them is a non wounding DoT that is 10% of the combat spam damage, the other is a wounding dot. The wounding dot starts off at 2% of the initial damage you do to a mob but it increases with BF, ie as the mob gets wounds/BF from your fire ticks the wounding part of your DoT will increase.

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The wound dot though doesn't show as floaty damage though does it?

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Heorot wrote:

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Zhorx wrote:

Aah, well there are actually two dots you get from a fire. One of them is a non wounding DoT that is 10% of the combat spam damage, the other is a wounding dot. The wounding dot starts off at 2% of the initial damage you do to a mob but it increases with BF, ie as the mob gets wounds/BF from your fire ticks the wounding part of your DoT will increase.

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The wound dot though doesn't show as floaty damage though does it?

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The combined wound and damage dot shows as a floaty.