Commando Archive
Thread: What's up Commandos...
As has been said, please just ask StarNick. I am undoubtedly sure that he has all of the needed information compiled and in an easily readable format so that you don't have to read through the forum posts. Also, the info StarNick will give you is info that WE, the community, has obtained through experience.
Please, don't be discouraged by any flames or things that seem like flames. We are just frustrated by all of the problems we have encountered and would like to get them fixed. We really are a nice community, and if you just skimmed some of the threads, you would see that we come together quite nicely to hash out ideas.
It all boils down to this, however. We are certain that StarNick is doing his job. The question is, are the devs?
I'm sure that I reflect the overall feelings of the community with that line.
here's 3 things i'd like to see changed in commando.
1. Adjust damage output to be equal to or just above Rifleman....our SAC costs are higher, and heavy weapons cannot be PuP'd...so either increase weapon's damage, or give Commandos specials....
2. Grenades...make them a viable utility option again.....
3. prereq's....take the brawler cert out, and make it a marksman cert...ANY of the marksman trees (but rifleman or pistoleer would seem more fitting, seeing as we use heavey weapons and/or launcher pistol...LOL...i know...who uses the launcher pistol anymore 
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3a. fix the AOE...not in the top 3, since it SHOULD be working anyway....it works on the dev server, and 1/2 the time on TC....just fix it on live, and that solves ALOT of the complaints...
i like the idea of the flamethrower, rocket launcher, acid launcher(LOL, i know...who uses the acid launcher, too!! )being a weapon AOE...makes sense....but as far as having to use JUST the marksman specials for Commando...just not good enough, IMO.
but, thanx tho, for noticing the needs of the Commandos!! it has the potential to be on of the most fun professions in the game!!!
Would it be possible to get a ranged Armor Break added to the Commando profession?
It seems to fit us well...
-Smo'ki
DancingRhodian wrote:
You're joking right? Why would someone who is not the resident expert on this profession come and ask for input and comment? This is another in a mountain of examples of why SOE mismanages this project and its design - which some are mislabeling as QA, though QA certainly suffers as a result.
Let me ask you and your SOE team, why do you have Correspondents? I've long seen Correspondents as powerless puppets, who's only real purpose seems to be for SOE to use as a shield to deflect player attention to, and with much detail have I gone into demonstrating why that is so. This thread is another clear example of the nature of Correspondents.
I have to wonder how a Correspondent must feel when their impotent work, such as it is, and the only real thing they can contribute (Top Issues, or Top Bug list (at SOE's directive and control,)) is bypassed by a red name who comes to the community and asks the very same thing that, the ONLY thing, that Correspondents can do today? The work is there - it's there.
If there's something lacking with the information prepared by a Correspondent, how about working WITH the Correspondent to get more of what's needed? I realize they're just a dog and a shield, and that by working with them in this way, actually opens SOE reps up to having some accountability to communicate and interact with Correspondents. "Yes thank you, oh I don't have time to answer your questions and discuss your other concerns, I just wanted this. Go away, now."
Another example of business as usual despite Mr. Holocron's grand communication-improvement statements. Who's running this project, and what leadership, communication,and project management skills do they bring to the table?
Despite what appears to be changes in the SWG team line-up over the years, some things seem to not change, so maybe there's not change high enough up the ladder. Maybe the only hope we have is for those of us in our business years to buy stock in SOE and act as shareholders to clean up this nonsense.
This is not flaming. It's our perception, and appears to this savvy leader to be dead on.
BINGO.
Thank you for stating this. I tried to several times, but just ended up getting so angry that I had to scrap the post.
[ PHO | Kauri ] Why is this thread being flamed by people who NEVER normally post anything in the Commando forums? But according to their own bio only post under other forums? This thread was not meant for flaming, but for constructive feedback..
How on earth will we ever get anything done in this game if parts of the community only can cry and shout?..
To be honest I hope that whoever has moderator rights here go in and delete all these flaming posts..
And to the Devs... I am truely sorry that this thread turned into what it did.. the majority of the Commando Community is thrilled with the fact you took the time to come by and post directly to the player base. Ignore these (many Jedi and BH heavy posters..) who decided to come in and flame our forums.
Again I would like to point out that the stickied threads on this site, will show much of what is wrong with the Commando of today.
So what are our issues. Well thats what a corr forum is for. They tell you what it is we want and need. Thats what they Volly for.
And to come and say hey we the devs dont know about the profession we are working on? Perhaps you should try a Holiday inn express. Im a Air rescue Fire Fighter wonder how well it would look for me to say hey im just a Air rescue guy how could you expect me to know how to put out that car fire and save your Family?
I think you guys really need to work on you PR and your comms to each other. And listen to your corrs that are trying to help you.
Helios_SOE wrote:
If, hyptothetically speaking, I were to say "If you could snap your fingers and fix THREE (3) things with your profession right now, what would they be?", you would answer with...
1. Give us Specials. I'm talking about Range and Melee. Some ideas are "Focus Shot" a large damage ability, "Barrage" as a KD ability, "Bash" A Melee attack similair to Firearm Strike, but better and can work with melee weapons. I would really like most of the States removed from our Weapons and rather made Specials. Also AoEs aren't that great. Sorry they aren't.
Grenades should be thrown using an ability called "Toss", so they basically become a weapon. Grenades should be the only AoE or Splash Damage Weapons we have considering we are suppose to be 1 Crowd Control. I've also thought about something like "Fury" which gives a bonus to accuracy both Ranged and Melee and gives you a small Movement Speed Bonus, like Duelist Stance or CoB or Aim.
2. Fix AoEs/States/Weapons in general. If you can't do the above give us Full Splash Damage, and correct the AoE sizes and make sure they radiate from the Target. Also make the effects from our Weapons actually stick often and not every blue moon. Grenades are worse then before if you don't know, and because they are the true AoE Weapon you really need to work on them, cause there a waste of Resources.
3. New Stuff/Better Animations. Ok first and most improtant I'd like to see the Rocket Launcher fire and actual Rocket, not some puff ball, the LP also looks rather stupid. Advance versions like CL 54 of the Rocket Launcher and Launcher Pistol would be nice. The Rocket Launcher if all possible should be shulder mounted I know that's probably never going to ahppen since you guys wouldn't bother to make a new animation or something.
Off Topic (Don't read if you don't care!)
Ok some other things you should know. First we need a Revamp bad, you guys should be planning one. Commando was only numerous based off your Profession Report, because there are a lot of Base Demo Characters that just pick up Novice Commando to blow up Bases or were the Village Grinding Monkeys using the Combat XP from grenades to get XP, even though they were of heavy cost and didn't help in Combat.
So we need a Revamp, the only reason you should fix anything with us now is because it's gonna be awhile to you get to properly fixing us, which I think is pathetic since you guys rushed through a half finished CU and now we are worse.
If you can't tell or haven't noticed most of us are very very sour, like me, and with such a late response most of us can't help but sound immature and rude, cause we feel we have been abadoned, nerfed, forgotten, maybe evil possibly being toyed with. I've gotten to such a point where I'm not sure this isn't just a trick to pull our leg.
I beg of you to check out some of our revamp ideas, and the one in my Signature about fixing Commando.
Anyways thank you for finally coming here.
(Oh and I'm not buying TOOW, no reason for me an Imperial to talk to Obi-Wan, so in other words Blix, if I don't pay you guys $25, my Weapons will just be as useless and junky as they are now?)
Message Edited by TK-132 on 10-02-2005 06:48 PM
realy just want working 100% AOE ...
hrhr ... forget working PuP for flamer!!!!!
Message Edited by R0Man on 10-04-2005 03:02 PM
Helios_SOE wrote:
Thanks to everyone who remained constructive and reiterated their issues here in this thread. I know you guys sometimes get tired of repeating yourselves, but given a limited amount of time to address issues, it was far quicker to create a focused thread like this than to wade through hours of posts elsewhere to make sure that we're addressing the issues you guys think are the most important.
I'll try to keep you posted on what comes of this. I'll probaby start a new thread when I have something for you guys, as this one has spiraled too much off topic.
Woot! Congratz for the commandos--hope you get your stuff working like it should!
Helios_SOE wrote:I know you guys sometimes get tired of repeating yourselves, but given a limited amount of time to address issues, it was far quicker to create a focused thread like this than to wade through hours of posts elsewhere to make sure that we're addressing the issues you guys think are the most important.
If you are unfamiliar with the Correspondent system - one of the neat things they do once in a while (totally unpaid, mind you) is collect the issues from "hours of posts" into a single one so you don't have to do it. As seen, for example, here...
Too bad no one ever reads that stuff, they usually do a great job and are significantly more objective than players "speaking" directly to red names in threads like this one.